Would anyone like a tree?

Monsclara · 15-04-2013 12:50pm #1

Hello all

I have a tree that is going to be too big for my garden. It's got silver leaves and a dark trunk. The pics attached are from last year in bloom and what it's like now. It's about 2m tall with loads of buds. I really don't want to have to throw it out, so if anyone would like it, let me know. The downside is that it will need to be dug up.

jezko · 15-04-2013 1:00pm

Where about's are you Monsclara?
Can't make out what the tree is..
Have you something in mind to put in it's place?

Monsclara · 15-04-2013 1:24pm

jezko wrote: »

Where about's are you Monsclara?
Can't make out what the tree is..
Have you something in mind to put in it's place?

I'm in Dublin 6w. No, no plans to plant anything else as I'm pretty limited space wise. And sorry don't know what type of tree it is except I think its really lovely in bloom

lottpaul · 15-04-2013 1:44pm

Thats a very nice gesture but there may be 2 snags:
if its breaking into leaf and bloom it's probably too late to move for this year anyway.
it's a large tree and would need to bring a big root ball with it - would this damage the rest of your garden?

That said, if someone wanted to try it they'd need to move within the next week or so at the latest.
Best of luck!

Monsclara · 15-04-2013 4:51pm

lottpaul wrote: »

Thats a very nice gesture but there may be 2 snags:
if its breaking into leaf and bloom it's probably too late to move for this year anyway.
it's a large tree and would need to bring a big root ball with it - would this damage the rest of your garden?

That said, if someone wanted to try it they'd need to move within the next week or so at the latest.
Best of luck!

Yes, I wondered about the bloom period starting soon. Not sure about the rootball. I have a Magnolia about 3m from it (trunk to trunk). Its well established so it might be OK.

pwurple · 15-04-2013 8:47pm

Vêry hard to see what it is, except that it's not a tree at all I think. It's a shrub. Take a hedge clippers to it if it's just the size bothering you.

Could you get a photo of a leaf? Pull one off maybe.

Best guess without another photo would be Aralia elata.
http://www.plantdatabase.co.uk/Aralia_elata_Silver_Umbrella

rje66 · 15-04-2013 9:09pm

pwurple wrote: »

Vêry hard to see what it is, except that it's not a tree at all I think. It's a shrub. Take a hedge clippers to it if it's just the size bothering you.

Could you get a photo of a leaf? Pull one off maybe.

Best guess without another photo would be Aralia elata.
http://www.plantdatabase.co.uk/Aralia_elata_Silver_Umbrella

Def. Not aralia elata aka devils walking stick- its very thorny .

If flowers are yellow it cud be a cytisus
Or a variety of willow. Looks like its a fast grower.

Monsclara · 15-04-2013 10:54pm

pwurple wrote: »

Vêry hard to see what it is, except that it's not a tree at all I think. It's a shrub. Take a hedge clippers to it if it's just the size bothering you.

Could you get a photo of a leaf? Pull one off maybe.

Best guess without another photo would be Aralia elata.
http://www.plantdatabase.co.uk/Aralia_elata_Silver_Umbrella

Actually, I thought it was a shrub when I bought it and perhaps it is - I just need to cut it back maybe? I've attached another pic which I took I think last summer, but not sure. It's a very vigorous plant/tree/shrub

Monsclara · 15-04-2013 11:04pm

pwurple wrote: »

Vêry hard to see what it is, except that it's not a tree at all I think. It's a shrub. Take a hedge clippers to it if it's just the size bothering you.

Could you get a photo of a leaf? Pull one off maybe.

Best guess without another photo would be Aralia elata.
http://www.plantdatabase.co.uk/Aralia_elata_Silver_Umbrella

The buds are just opening now, so no leaves yet. I'll see if I can find some other pics

jezko · 16-04-2013 1:44am

rje66 wrote: »

If flowers are yellow it cud be a cytisus
Or a variety of willow. Looks like its a fast grower.

Had a Thought
Cytisus Battandieri or Pineapple Broom Shrub... But this flowers Summer...

What colour/shape are the Leaves/Flowers OP
I'd love to have your Plant only D6 is a Bit too far for me (lived in D6W 20 years ago, brings back memories :-) )... Maybe we can ID it for who ever wants it

Monsclara · 16-04-2013 9:48am

jezko wrote: »

Had a Thought
Cytisus Battandieri or Pineapple Broom Shrub... But this flowers Summer...

What colour/shape are the Leaves/Flowers OP
I'd love to have your Plant only D6 is a Bit too far for me (lived in D6W 20 years ago, brings back memories :-) )... Maybe we can ID it for who ever wants it

As far as I remember,there aren't flowers, just leaves. And I just haven't got any pics of leaves (truth is, I lost all my data about 2 months ago as hard disk crashed and I hadn't got proper backup

).

Monsclara · 16-04-2013 10:25am

Here are a few pics which I took just now. Is it possible to ID from leaf shape?

Monsclara · 16-04-2013 9:06pm

jezko wrote: »

Had a Thought
Cytisus Battandieri or Pineapple Broom Shrub... But this flowers Summer...

What colour/shape are the Leaves/Flowers OP
I'd love to have your Plant only D6 is a Bit too far for me (lived in D6W 20 years ago, brings back memories :-) )... Maybe we can ID it for who ever wants it

Jezko

On another forum and with some digging around, I think it is a Elaeagnus Quicksilver

jezko · 16-04-2013 10:00pm

http://www.rhs.org.uk/Gardens/Harlow-Carr/About-Harlow-Carr/Plant-of-the-month/July/Elaeagnus--Quicksilver-

So sorry now won't be up to D6w looks Interesting.. going to recommend as pwurple suggested and prune to keep the size to your Garden needs,

the particularly most beautiful fragrance emanating from its small but perfectly formed, pale yellow flowers in July." .

Plants are fast-growing and best left to develop as a large, multi-stemmed bush with minimal intervention or trained as a standard with a clear stem to a height of 1.2-1.5m. Can tolerate hard pruning.

Elaeagnus ‘Quicksilver’ is a vigorous growing, pyramidal, spiny shrub or small tree

Have you noticed Spines on your Plant?

pwurple · 16-04-2013 11:06pm

Monsclara wrote: »

Jezko

On another forum and with some digging around, I think it is a Elaeagnus Quicksilver

Might be eleagnus, that fits the quick growing, the habit and leaf colour, but I thought the leaves were bigger than what is shown there, and it also has yellow flowers. Very hard to tell from the photos.

karl tyrrell · 16-04-2013 11:19pm

I think its a wild willow

Monsclara · 16-04-2013 11:44pm

jezko wrote: »

http://www.rhs.org.uk/Gardens/Harlow-Carr/About-Harlow-Carr/Plant-of-the-month/July/Elaeagnus--Quicksilver-

So sorry now won't be up to D6w looks Interesting.. going to recommend as pwurple suggested and prune to keep the size to your Garden needs,

the particularly most beautiful fragrance emanating from its small but perfectly formed, pale yellow flowers in July." .

Plants are fast-growing and best left to develop as a large, multi-stemmed bush with minimal intervention or trained as a standard with a clear stem to a height of 1.2-1.5m. Can tolerate hard pruning.

Elaeagnus ‘Quicksilver’ is a vigorous growing, pyramidal, spiny shrub or small tree

Have you noticed Spines on your Plant?

No, haven't noticed spines. Might have a look to see how it could be trained

Monsclara · 16-04-2013 11:52pm

pwurple wrote: »

Might be eleagnus, that fits the quick growing, the habit and leaf colour, but I thought the leaves were bigger than what is shown there, and it also has yellow flowers. Very hard to tell from the photos.

Pwuple. I took the pics of the leaves this morning and they are just starting to grow, so they are tiny. Admittedly I didn't notice flowers last summer, but I wouldn't mind that - they could hit me on the head and I wouldn't notice. Think I will hold on to it now and try and figure some way of pruning it. Wonder how I could train it as a standard as suggested on RHS?

jezko · 17-04-2013 9:44pm

Monsclara wrote: »

Wonder how I could train it as a standard as suggested on RHS?

Pick a stem that is growing the straightest and prune out all the remaining side shoots allow this Shoot to grow up to to six feet (Training on to a Bamboo cane to keep it straight may help) and form the head by pruning out the main tip, all other shoots that develop can be Pinched/stopped after 4/6 leaf buds to encourage these to develop into a head.

try keep leaves on the lower stem to encourage it to thicken the stem.

Hope that made sence, it's how I do it.... Open to correction.

Bixy · 18-04-2013 11:45am

Eleagnus tend to be evergreen.
Looking at the vigour of growth in a year I would be inclined to think, like Karl Tyrell, that it could be a willow! If any of the buds have yet to break have a quick look and see if there is a single bud scale, THat would support the willow group!

Monsclara · 18-04-2013 12:37pm

Bixy wrote: »

Eleagnus tend to be evergreen.
Looking at the vigour of growth in a year I would be inclined to think, like Karl Tyrell, that it could be a willow! If any of the buds have yet to break have a quick look and see if there is a single bud scale, THat would support the willow group!

Bixy. I'm not what a "single bud scale" is or looks like.

Bixy · 18-04-2013 1:21pm

I must learn to post images.
But quick answer; most buds look like a collection of tight little leaves, (see http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.inkart.com/images/lineart/oak_leaf_bud.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.inkart.com/pages/conceptual/oak_leaf_bud.html&h=400&w) for example of an oak bud, but willows can be identified by the fact that the bud has just one smooth "leaf" (scale) cover.
See http://www.pyb.co.uk/images/envirodiary/envirophotos/willow-buds.jpg

Monsclara · 18-04-2013 7:18pm

Bixy wrote: »

I must learn to post images.
But quick answer; most buds look like a collection of tight little leaves, (see http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.inkart.com/images/lineart/oak_leaf_bud.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.inkart.com/pages/conceptual/oak_leaf_bud.html&h=400&w) for example of an oak bud, but willows can be identified by the fact that the bud has just one smooth "leaf" (scale) cover.
See http://www.pyb.co.uk/images/envirodiary/envirophotos/willow-buds.jpg

No, this one has lots of little leaves - see pics

Would anyone like a tree?

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