London 2014

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

I am broken after yesterday, the risk did not pay off even though I felt great going through halfway. Did not know at the time but pretty certain I have torn my hamstring. The last 8 miles were just painful!

ainsyjnr

tunguska wrote: »

I surprised that Steve cram and paula radcliffe didnt take him up on his comments to be honest.
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There was a point in the commentary where you could hear Crammy and Paula trying to divert him away from his ranting about Mo's decision to run the marathon. Frankly I was embarrassed for him as everybody interviewed afterwards justified Mo's decision and accepted it for what it was. Trying something new and seeing what happens.

What a load of rubbish, "he should stick to the track!" That type of attitude has got British middle and long distance running to exactly the place it is now, which apart from Mo and the Olympic gold medal wining decisions he makes, is nowhere! (well apart from Chris Thompson who had a great race!)

pistol_75

The same Brendan Foster has probably approached Mo about running the Great North Run again this year despite what he says about him concentrating on the track.

overpronator

Mo whilst probably not suited perfectly to the marathon had a bad day and through lack of experience ran it badly. In saying that he was only a few seconds behind Geoffrey Mutai who also had a bad day but has run the fastest marathon in history and is a multiple major winner. The clamour for him to drop the marathon is a bit knee jerk through Muppets like Foster getting too much air time. Whilst he may not win a major there is a far quicker time than 2.08 in him so it becomes a question of pride for Mo, is he arsed enough to come back and go faster? I'd wager if the payday is good enough he will be back and good luck to him, it's great to have someone with his profile stoking up interest imo.

robinph

Watched to the end of the mens race last night, and was then trying to see if I could spot TRR running past in the background as they did interviews afterwards.

Foster is an idiot and really needs to be put out to pasture. Mo didn't have a great race as he didn't win or set any records, but although 8th place may sound bad after all the ridiculous coverage that Mo was getting from some parts about him being able to win it... he was only 15 seconds away from 5th place. It was a good run by Mo, he didn't get carried away with doing anything silly at the start, possibly got a tiny bit flustered by the drinks stations and paces deserting him, but it's certainly not a run that justifies Foster saying that he's useless at marathons.

Yes, he may be better at 1500m, but this was one race and nobody with an ounce of sense ever really expected anything much more than what he did.




I am always astounded by how incompetent all of the elite runners are at picking up bottles of water. They swerve all over the road, trip each other up, and throw their bottles about the place. It's really not that hard and the rest of us manage to deal with it perfectly fine and in a much more crowded field further back. Then when they do manage to pick up their bottle they take one sip and throw it away. I don't know what they think is in their bottles, but whatever magic concoction it is they are not taking in enough of it during that one sip for it to make any difference and they should ust stick with the regular water and maybe they would manage to pick those bottles up easier than the ones they stick the flags and bit of wire onto.

belcarra

robinph wrote: »

I am always astounded by how incompetent all of the elite runners are at picking up bottles of water. They swerve all over the road, trip each other up, and throw their bottles about the place. It's really not that hard and the rest of us manage to deal with it perfectly fine and in a much more crowded field further back. Then when they do manage to pick up their bottle they take one sip and throw it away. I don't know what they think is in their bottles, but whatever magic concoction it is they are not taking in enough of it during that one sip for it to make any difference and they should ust stick with the regular water and maybe they would manage to pick those bottles up easier than the ones they stick the flags and bit of wire onto.

I've always doubted gels and most sports drinks tbh and now I just look for a sports drink to excite the taste buds when in the latter parts of a marathon and the taste of water is just too bland to stomach. Just the taste of a fresh orange segment is enough to spur me on for an extra couple of miles and only a minimal amount/taste is required. Barry Murray seemed to confirm this when interviewed on Marathon Talk. He basically said that in a marathon situation it's predominantly the brain that needs energy/refreshing more so than the limbs. Not sure if I agree totally with everything he said but I reckon he's closer to the truth than the 'take a gel 3 times per hour' brigade.

slowsteady

robinph wrote: »

I am always astounded by how incompetent all of the elite runners are at picking up bottles of water. They swerve all over the road, trip each other up, and throw their bottles about the place. It's really not that hard and the rest of us manage to deal with it perfectly fine and in a much more crowded field further back. Then when they do manage to pick up their bottle they take one sip and throw it away. I don't know what they think is in their bottles, but whatever magic concoction it is they are not taking in enough of it during that one sip for it to make any difference and they should ust stick with the regular water and maybe they would manage to pick those bottles up easier than the ones they stick the flags and bit of wire onto.

Watching Tirunesh Dibaba running with the two Kenyans where she knocked her bottle off the table, sotpped and picked it up at around 15/16 miles. Lost about 10 secs and contact and from there on had to run the race on her own. Was still only 15 secs back at the finish, reckon she would have won if she had stayed with them. First marathon and I think it showed, one to watch.

morceli

robinph wrote: »

Watched to the end of the mens race last night, and was then trying to see if I could spot TRR running past in the background as they did interviews afterwards.

Foster is an idiot and really needs to be put out to pasture. Mo didn't have a great race as he didn't win or set any records, but although 8th place may sound bad after all the ridiculous coverage that Mo was getting from some parts about him being able to win it... he was only 15 seconds away from 5th place. It was a good run by Mo, he didn't get carried away with doing anything silly at the start, possibly got a tiny bit flustered by the drinks stations and paces deserting him, but it's certainly not a run that justifies Foster saying that he's useless at marathons.

Yes, he may be better at 1500m, but this was one race and nobody with an ounce of sense ever really expected anything much more than what he did.




I am always astounded by how incompetent all of the elite runners are at picking up bottles of water. They swerve all over the road, trip each other up, and throw their bottles about the place. It's really not that hard and the rest of us manage to deal with it perfectly fine and in a much more crowded field further back. Then when they do manage to pick up their bottle they take one sip and throw it away. I don't know what they think is in their bottles, but whatever magic concoction it is they are not taking in enough of it during that one sip for it to make any difference and they should ust stick with the regular water and maybe they would manage to pick those bottles up easier than the ones they stick the flags and bit of wire onto.

Haven't yet tried to pick up a bottle at 4:30 mile pace, I'm great at it a 9 min pace so guess its the same? half the time the elite a looking for the marker or flag for the location of their bottle and not just picking one at random, can be easy enough to miss them.

RubyK

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viperlogic

@ MODS, possibly start a new 2015 London thread and pull posts from here referencing 2015? Was going to start one but see there are posts here already that could be used to start one

robinph

viperlogic wrote: »

@ MODS, possibly start a new 2015 London thread and pull posts from here referencing 2015? Was going to start one but see there are posts here already that could be used to start one

Shiny new 2015 thread available here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057190571

RedRunner

Username|Race Number|PB|Target time:|Actual Time:
neilc|31529|3:10:28|<3:14:59|
robinph|31227|2:56:58|~2:53|
RedRunner|1751|4:27:10|3:44:59|3:52:32
TRR|968|2.36.28|2:3X:XX|
JB|12xxx|3:05|2:59:XX|
Abhainn|315xx|2:36:21|2:38:XX|
Gavlor|31702|3:00:04|2:5X:XX|
Polster|43144|n/a|<3:29:59|
BeepBeep67|32241|2:57:50|#174|
Ainsyjnr|12xx|3:14:40|<3:05:00|
jahaco|27949|3:11:47|<3:10:00|
overpronator|55096|3:26:xx|3.19.xx|


Might as well finish this off?

robinph

Username|Race Number|PB|Target time:|Actual Time:
neilc|31529|3:10:28|<3:14:59|
robinph|31227|2:56:58|~2:53|3:01:47
RedRunner|1751|4:27:10|3:44:59|3:52:32
TRR|968|2.36.28|2:3X:XX|
JB|12xxx|3:05|2:59:XX|
Abhainn|315xx|2:36:21|2:38:XX|
Gavlor|31702|3:00:04|2:5X:XX|
Polster|43144|n/a|<3:29:59|
BeepBeep67|32241|2:57:50|#174|
Ainsyjnr|12xx|3:14:40|<3:05:00|
jahaco|27949|3:11:47|<3:10:00|
overpronator|55096|3:26:xx|3.19.xx|


Completely forgot to complete the table.

Didn't go too well in the end, but glad that I pushed it to the limit. Just have to accept that things might go wrong and try. Didn't work this time, but I'll do it again, and more than likely blow up doing so...but you have to try.

TRR

Username|Race Number|PB|Target time:|Actual Time:
neilc|31529|3:10:28|<3:14:59|
robinph|31227|2:56:58|~2:53|3:01:47
RedRunner|1751|4:27:10|3:44:59|3:52:32
TRR|968|2.36.28|2:3X:XX|2:35:03
JB|12xxx|3:05|2:59:XX|
Abhainn|315xx|2:36:21|2:38:XX|
Gavlor|31702|3:00:04|2:5X:XX|
Polster|43144|n/a|<3:29:59|
BeepBeep67|32241|2:57:50|#174|
Ainsyjnr|12xx|3:14:40|<3:05:00|
jahaco|27949|3:11:47|<3:10:00|
overpronator|55096|3:26:xx|3.19.xx|


I only ever fill these tables in when things have gone my way

AuldManKing

Not tempted by 2:34:63??

neilc

Username|Race Number|PB|Target time:|Actual Time:
neilc|31529|3:10:28|<3:14:59|3:28:00
robinph|31227|2:56:58|~2:53|3:01:47
RedRunner|1751|4:27:10|3:44:59|3:52:32
TRR|968|2.36.28|2:3X:XX|2:35:03
JB|12xxx|3:05|2:59:XX|
Abhainn|315xx|2:36:21|2:38:XX|
Gavlor|31702|3:00:04|2:5X:XX|
Polster|43144|n/a|<3:29:59|
BeepBeep67|32241|2:57:50|#174|
Ainsyjnr|12xx|3:14:40|<3:05:00|
jahaco|27949|3:11:47|<3:10:00|
overpronator|55096|3:26:xx|3.19.xx|


Can't quit without putting this one right, I'll live to fight another day!!

TRR

AuldManKing wrote: »

Not tempted by 2:34:63??

Nope. I'd be a hypocrite after telling you that 3 hours was an arbitrary barrier. Sure 2.34.59 is even more arbitrary.

Abhainn

Username|Race Number|PB|Target time:|Actual Time:
neilc|31529|3:10:28|<3:14:59|3:28:00
robinph|31227|2:56:58|~2:53|3:01:47
RedRunner|1751|4:27:10|3:44:59|3:52:32
TRR|968|2.36.28|2:3X:XX|2:35:03
JB|12xxx|3:05|2:59:XX|
Abhainn|31523|2:36:21|2:38:XX|2:37:51
Gavlor|31702|3:00:04|2:5X:XX|
Polster|43144|n/a|<3:29:59|
BeepBeep67|32241|2:57:50|#174|
Ainsyjnr|12xx|3:14:40|<3:05:00|
jahaco|27949|3:11:47|<3:10:00|
overpronator|55096|3:26:xx|3.19.xx|

Polster

Abhainn wrote: »

Username|Race Number|PB|Target time:|Actual Time:
neilc|31529|3:10:28|<3:14:59|3:28:00
robinph|31227|2:56:58|~2:53|3:01:47
RedRunner|1751|4:27:10|3:44:59|3:52:32
TRR|968|2.36.28|2:3X:XX|2:35:03
JB|12xxx|3:05|2:59:XX|
Abhainn|31523|2:36:21|2:38:XX|2:37:51
Gavlor|31702|3:00:04|2:5X:XX|
Polster|43144|n/a|<3:29:59 | 2:59:28
BeepBeep67|32241|2:57:50|#174|
Ainsyjnr|12xx|3:14:40|<3:05:00|
jahaco|27949|3:11:47|<3:10:00|
overpronator|55096|3:26:xx|3.19.xx|

Had forgotten what a hangover tasted like, back with vengeance now anyway

Calvin Johnson

Polster - how does someone go out looking for sub 3'30 in their first Marathon end up running sub 3?

Please explain!

Polster

Calvin Johnson wrote: »

Polster - how does someone go out looking for sub 3'30 in their first Marathon end up running sub 3?

Please explain!

From running 10 to 15k's I thought sub 3:30 seemed like a good and realistic time. During 4/5 months of training I thought it may be possible on the day
to run between 3:10 and 3:20. On the day just went out and ran what felt comfortable, luckily first 15/16 miles passed off nicely, then got tougher and just hung in there for the last 3 miles.

Mainly did 10k's during the week days, either before work or lunch time, 3-4 days, and then long run normally on Saturdays with another shorter one on the Sunday.

Bahanaman

Polster that's just not fair!

Polster

Bahanaman wrote: »

Polster that's just not fair!

Think that is my peak anyway, closing in on 40, great experience running it though, crowds definitely give you a huge lift.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

Username|Race Number|PB|Target time:|Actual Time:
neilc|31529|3:10:28|<3:14:59|3:28:00
robinph|31227|2:56:58|~2:53|3:01:47
RedRunner|1751|4:27:10|3:44:59|3:52:32
TRR|968|2.36.28|2:3X:XX|2:35:03
JB|12xxx|3:05|2:59:XX|3:20:05
Abhainn|31523|2:36:21|2:38:XX|2:37:51
Gavlor|31702|3:00:04|2:5X:XX|
Polster|43144|n/a|<3:29:59|
BeepBeep67|32241|2:57:50|#174|
Ainsyjnr|12xx|3:14:40|<3:05:00|
jahaco|27949|3:11:47|<3:10:00|
overpronator|55096|3:26:xx|3.19.xx|


I hate marathons, they should make them 16miles instead of 26. Glad i tried and failed miserably than have not tried at all.

Bahanaman

Polster wrote: »

Think that is my peak anyway, closing in on 40, great experience running it though, crowds definitely give you a huge lift.

I'm of the same vintage myself Polster! I'd be looking at roughly the same target as you were for London but to go on then and go sub 3 is something I couldn't imagine being able for. The pace is savage. You must have been totally confident in your training and the shape you were in.

Krusty_Clown

Polster wrote: »

Think that is my peak anyway, closing in on 40, great experience running it though, crowds definitely give you a huge lift.

Let there be no talk of peaking at 40! Many of us have crossed that bridge and are still looking further down the horizon for that peak. The only barrier is the one that you create yourself.

BeepBeep67

Steve Way 3rd Brit on Sunday, blog here good read.

colin32

Polster wrote: »

From running 10 to 15k's I thought sub 3:30 seemed like a good and realistic time. During 4/5 months of training I thought it may be possible on the day
to run between 3:10 and 3:20. On the day just went out and ran what felt comfortable, luckily first 15/16 miles passed off nicely, then got tougher and just hung in there for the last 3 miles.

Mainly did 10k's during the week days, either before work or lunch time, 3-4 days, and then long run normally on Saturdays with another shorter one on the Sunday.

Think I'll adopt this training plan

Gavlor

Username|Race Number|PB|Target time:|Actual Time:
neilc|31529|3:10:28|<3:14:59|3:28:00
robinph|31227|2:56:58|~2:53|3:01:47
RedRunner|1751|4:27:10|3:44:59|3:52:32
TRR|968|2.36.28|2:3X:XX|2:35:03
JB|12xxx|3:05|2:59:XX|3:20:05
Abhainn|31523|2:36:21|2:38:XX|2:37:51
Gavlor|31702|3:00:04|2:5X:XX|2:59:01
Polster|43144|n/a|<3:29:59|
BeepBeep67|32241|2:57:50|#174|
Ainsyjnr|12xx|3:14:40|<3:05:00|
jahaco|27949|3:11:47|<3:10:00|
overpronator|55096|3:26:xx|3.19.xx|


Job done, box ticked!

Gavlor

interesting stat of the day: the average finishing time in this race was 4.34.17