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UFC on Fox: Henderson vs. Melendez

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Good first round from Melendez


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    after round one
    few quid on this

    just missed 15/8

    UFC Matches Benson Henderson v Gilbert Melendez
    21-04-2013 02:50
    Match Betting
    Gilbert Melendez @ 13/8


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I'll give that one to Melendez too, Henderson picked it up at the end, but he didnt really get the better of the exchanges to make it count for anything I thought


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    odds suspended now on paddy
    was 11/8 just before end of round two


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Very hard one to suss out, Melendez looks like he has his number though. Such a well-matched fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    available at 11/8 again on paddy
    its a very good price on what we've seen so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    mailburner wrote: »
    available at 11/8 again on paddy
    its a very good price on what we've seen so far

    6/5 :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    great stuff
    close round there


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Tricky one, I'd say judges will give it to Henderson. Look like an elbow or two got in after the bell, ref should have been in closer


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I'd like to see Melendez get off a knee on one of those takedown defenses


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    So close but I think it would be a robbery to give it to Bendo on what we've seen so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    paddy have pushed melendez out to 13/8

    dont like that but i dont see how he can be that big


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    balls
    melendez 4s now


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I think this last round is going to decide it if one of them can dominate it. It looks like the fight is getting away from Melendez though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Whoever gets the decision, I get the feeling we're going to have yet another lightweight title fight rematch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Melendez shades it IMO.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I'll give that and the title to Melendez, I thought Henderson did a huge amount of running away for a champ in the final round of a razor thin fight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    I have Melendez 1,2 and 5. I have a feeling Henderson will get it though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,945 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    That could go anyway, could be a 49-46, 48-47 to either fighter

    Wouldn't be surprised to see a draw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    really have no idea who got it but put a gun to my head
    and ill say bendo
    a draw a possibility


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    bull****

    edit:ah well :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    fook it


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    **** off Henderson


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭DerekDGoldfish


    Would he have still proposed if he lost?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    He didn't win that fight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,437 ✭✭✭weemcd


    what a corn ball


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭DerekDGoldfish


    Champions will always get the edge in a close fight but Melendez should have won. Henderson might be able to win the re-match more convincingly if he stoped playing with his hair every 5 seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,437 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Henderson might be able to win the re-match more convincingly if he stoped playing with his hair every 5 seconds.


    it must add up to about a minute spent from the entire fight of him just checking his hair, tie it, braid it or cut if off ffs.

    very annoying, hard fight to score. knew Bendo would have got the nod


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭seiphil


    Had it 48-47 to Henderson. Won rounds 2,3 and 4.1 and 2 to Melendez. Could of went either way though. Would like to see rematch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,387 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    Champions will always get the edge in a close fight but Melendez should have won. Henderson might be able to win the re-match more convincingly if he stoped playing with his hair every 5 seconds.

    I think thats pretty accurate


  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Gilbert Grape


    Henderson won without doubt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Title shot is going to the winner of Grant/Maynard. Fairly disappointing, if anyone deserved an immediate rematch it's Melendez.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    Just reguritated my corn flakes after seeing that octagon proposal!

    the UFC is on a bit of a streak with cards delivering of late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,615 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I know its not the whole picture, but i'm really looking for to the fight metric stats for the fight


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Had rounds 2,3 & 4 to henderson myself.
    Great card overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭stealinhorses


    Very close battle, probably more so than the Edgar fights. I think Bendo just edged it. Melendez didn't do enough to take the title from the champion, so in that case the belt should stay with Henderson.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Very close battle, probably more so than the Edgar fights. I think Bendo just edged it. Melendez didn't do enough to take the title from the champion, so in that case the belt should stay with Henderson.

    I'd look at it the other way, in 3 out of 4 title fights now henderson hasnt done enough to conclusively prove he's the best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭stealinhorses


    But should the onus be on him to prove that he's the best or should someone take the belt from him? I know what you mean, but I think the burden lies on the challenger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    But should the onus be on him to prove that he's the best or should someone take the belt from him? I know what you mean, but I think the burden lies on the challenger.

    I'm not a fan of this way of thinking

    "You have to take the belt from the Champion"

    No, if you win the fight you become Champion. Each round is scored with a winner and a loser and the criteria are very clear, Striking, Grappling, Aggression & Control. They can't just add in another saying "Oh, and if you're incumbent champ, we'll give you the closer rounds".

    If you fight an identical fight against the same opponent and win a close decision first time, should that decision be different second time because you're opponent is now Champion? Absolutely not!


  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Gilbert Grape


    Mellor wrote: »
    I know its not the whole picture, but i'm really looking for to the fight metric stats for the fight

    http://blog.fightmetric.com/2013/04/henderson-vs-melendez-official-ufc.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭stealinhorses


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I'm not a fan of this way of thinking

    "You have to take the belt from the Champion"

    No, if you win the fight you become Champion. Each round is scored with a winner and a loser and the criteria are very clear, Striking, Grappling, Aggression & Control. They can't just add in another saying "Oh, and if you're incumbent champ, we'll give you the closer rounds".

    If you fight an identical fight against the same opponent and win a close decision first time, should that decision be different second time because you're opponent is now Champion? Absolutely not!

    I agree with you completely. Just from looking around the web and seeing people say it was a complete robbery and Melendez should have been the new champ, you would think he 50-45'ed Bendo and the judges still gave it to him.
    It was an incredibly close fight and in my opinion Melendez could have persuaded the judges by simply going for it more, especially in the fifth round when the two of them just exchanged jabs for the last minute.
    If it's anybody's "fault" for Gilbert not getting the decision, it's his. The fight was very close and in order to show the world that he's the best lightweight in the world, as Jake Shields said between rounds, he needed to come at Henderson with a little more than he did.


  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭pauldoo


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I'm not a fan of this way of thinking

    "You have to take the belt from the Champion"

    fully agree, if we went with this, Frankie Edgar would still be champ.

    Henderson has been pretty fortunate with the decisions. Great fight, i thought Melendez was going to take a beating.

    The Mir fight was frustrating, everytime they seperated, Mir could get some shots off and tie up cormier, get reversed and held against the cage!

    Matt Brown delivered again, would like to see him have that fight with Hardy now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    shows how tight the division is in fairness with so little
    between the tops guys
    I think the one man who might have rose to the top
    is fighting aldo however


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  • Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Gilbert Grape


    pauldoo wrote: »
    fully agree, if we went with this, Frankie Edgar would still be champ.

    Henderson has been pretty fortunate with the decisions. Great fight, i thought Melendez was going to take a beating.

    The Mir fight was frustrating, everytime they seperated, Mir could get some shots off and tie up cormier, get reversed and held against the cage!

    Matt Brown delivered again, would like to see him have that fight with Hardy now

    Hardy may be retiring due to having 'wolf heart',he will make a decision after he gets married.The ufc wanted to send him to a cardioligist but he would'nt go.


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