The Bear and the Maiden Fair

username123

So did people like this version (The Hold Steady co-written by Djawandi)

or would you have preferred more of a ballad like sound like this

or indeed the "celtic rock" version by Irish Moutarde:

I like them all to be honest! But probably think the last version is least enjoyable.

Son0vagun

I personally loved the version Locke and his men were singing. No idea what processed the writers to put The Hold Steadys version on the end credits. There should be plenty more opertunities to hear different versions as the series progresses!

Shazbot

I like the ballad version with the medieval tone, so much so I linked it in the thread about 'pictures, videos, links etc' which has gone missing. It suits the atmosphere of the westerosi culture. I wish the band who recorded it had better equipment to record a higher quality track.

I was really turned off by the end of episode 3. The version the Bolton men were singing was much better.

username123

Shazbot wrote: »

I was really turned off by the end of episode 3. The version the Bolton men were singing was much better.

Yeah, Ive seen this sentiment expressed a lot by people online (not just here).

I liked it, I though the shock of Jaimes hand being chopped off was nicely seconded by the shock of the music kicking in.

It reminded me a bit of that film with Heath Ledger, A Knights Tale. A number of people I know said they didnt like it and thought the rock music was entirely inappropriate in it. But I loved it!

It could be that my musical tastes are not that sophisticated

Scuba Ste

I liked the song because I like The Hold Steady but it was a strange choice after that scene. I thought it was strange too that they used Gary Lightbody in the show but not or the credits.

Washington Irving

I really don't like like any of the versions which wouldn't be possible in Westeros. The second one on the OP is by far the best out of the three, it just sounds so wrong with electric guitars and whatnot.

username123

SaulGoode9 wrote: »

I really don't like like any of the versions which wouldn't be possible in Westeros. The second one on the OP is by far the best out of the three, it just sounds so wrong with electric guitars and whatnot.

Yeah I totally understand the argument for authenticity of music. I dont mind though because there are no doubt other instances of music in the show where the music doesnt actually exist in Westeros - but is just accompanying a scene. As an example in the very first scene here there is some musical accompaniment, but its not authentic Westerosi music - its just that its hardly noticable it doesnt seem so offensive.

Washington Irving

username123 wrote: »

Yeah I totally understand the argument for authenticity of music. I dont mind though because there are no doubt other instances of music in the show where the music doesnt actually exist in Westeros - but is just accompanying a scene. As an example in the very first scene here there is some musical accompaniment, but its not authentic Westerosi music - its just that its hardly noticable it doesnt seem so offensive.

Well, I wouldn't really have a problem with background music, just where the music is part of the actual scene itself and involves characters. For example, where the Brave Companions sing in the most recent episode.

Or, as with two of the versions in the OP, they play a song from the story itself with modern instruments. Background music is a totally different ballgame.

username123

Yeah I get you, while I liked it as a credits song I wouldnt have accepted it in a scene.

iamanengine

I thought although extremely unsuitable it worked perfectly. The shock of the ending compounded with the shock of the music left me completely baffled, and I enjoyed it!

Anachrony

All the orchestral music we've been hearing all along, such as the the opening credits we hear every week, require musical instruments that didn't exist in the middle ages and that we've never seen any evidence that Westeros has. Just because classical music originated at some time in the past doesn't mean that all classical music existed at all times in the past.

It's just how it's done, and the end credits music in particular are fair game because the immersion is already over.

I simply don't understand where the backlash is coming from, and it's complicated by the fact that many of the pirated copies that so many people were watching had sound synching problems and the music came in too soon. So when people complain, many of them have negative impressions already formed based on something that is entirely not the fault of the creators of the show.

username123

Anachrony wrote: »

All the orchestral music we've been hearing all along, such as the the opening credits we hear every week, require musical instruments that didn't exist in the middle ages and that we've never seen any evidence that Westeros has. Just because classical music originated at some time in the past doesn't mean that all classical music existed at all times in the past.

Of course Westeros isnt necessarily even in the middle ages, its a fantasy universe

Mr.Prodston

I loved it, I thought it added to the confusion although I reckon this would have been a great shout :pac:

Duckworth_Luas

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I loved it, I thought it added to the confusion although I reckon this would have been a great shout :pac:

Do you hear that noise? That's the sound of Jaime Lannister clapping!

Anachrony

username123 wrote: »

Of course Westeros isnt necessarily even in the middle ages, its a fantasy universe

So they may well have electric guitars then, powered by the Lord of Light perhaps.

I acknowledge that not everything is the same, which is why I mentioned that we've not seen evidence of those sorts of musical instruments in Westeros. They are free to decide that certain technologies are relatively more or less advanced in their universe, however with a few exceptions, most of their technology seems to roughly fit within a specific era of European history. While any material on the show is free to override that at any time, in the absence of any evidence to the contrary it is a reasonable assumption that their technology is an unknown area will be comparable to the rest of what we have seen.

username123

Anachrony wrote: »

So they may well have electric guitars then, powered by the Lord of Light perhaps.

I like this, imagine the pyrotechnics displays you could get going between the dragons and the wildfire!

Mickeroo

I liked the way the music kicked in last week, I think it was meant to be darkly humourous. It's a common trick in films & TV to have something bad or violent happen then have musical cue come in like that, Tarantino is always at it for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV5GSaUA8PE

I loved when they had The National sing Rains of Castermere last season.

The rains of castamere last season was brilliant

Barna77

Deleted User wrote: »

The rains of castamere last season was brilliant

Here here!

I don't get why some people seem to have a fit waiting for The Bear... and then oh it's so bad/so good etc etc.

Rains of Castamere is way better though

:pac: