Woman refused entry to low floor bus with buggy

wolfpawnat

AlekSmart wrote: »

What is the best course of action for Busdrivers ?

A course in effective Public Speaking and crowd-control.

Assertivness for Busdrivers,Vol's 1,2 & 3 ?

Getting stuck-in and hoping some common-sense will prevail ?


I'm not sure at all,but I will tell you what the safest course of actions is.....

Don't get involved !!!

It really is a no win situation for them is it.

AlekSmart

wolfpawnat wrote: »

It really is a no win situation for them is it.

It can be.

A very big part of the issue centres on ourselves as a culture,we simply are not amenable in any way to guidance,instruction,suggestion and particularly INSTRUCTION :eek:

We are kinda like a grumpier version of the Spanish or Italians.

However that should not prevent us from at least attempting to put a bit of shape on things.

Just as an observational aside,I never cease to be amazed at the willingness and ability of Filipino's to make best use of Public Transport,and usually with an easy smile and hello.....:)

doubletrouble?

right lets call a spade a spade here.

Gatling wrote: »

easy baby out ask the nearest person to hold the baby for one sec buggy gets folded down changing gear and feeds are in a back pack ,plan ahead simple ,take baby back from kind stranger sit down and enjoy the bus ride

i've just highlighted the most important word here.
"stranger"
most parents with young kids of buggy going use whether it's a father or a mother will not give their baby/child to a complete stranger to hold. for one you dont know who "the stranger" is. then you have the other aspect of anything can happen is seconds. what if the stranger drops the baby, what if!!!. there are so many what if's.
thanks but no thanks.

wolfpawnat wrote: »

The rules on the bus are "This is a priority area for a disabled user OR an occupied buggy" To me, I would interpret this as "if there is no wheelchair user, then it may be used by a buggy"

well said wolf. they are in deed the rules. one or the other. i'll also add.
a bus driver can request that the buggy be folded if a wheelchair user is waiting to board.
under no circumstances can a driver force someone to fold their occupied buggy if a wheel chair user wishes to boards the bus.
i've have seen all sides of this argument up front. while i do sympathise with a wheel chair user and i really do ,you also have to look at it from a parents point of view.
theres no point in coming on this thread and saying "what if" i had a buggy etc. my point is unless you have actual experience as a parent trying to board a bus then you dont know what it's really like to be in that situation.
i used to be like alot posters here "well if i had!!!!",but in reality i hadn't, it's only when the twins came along that my view has changed full circle.
nowadays i will treat both equally.

AlekSmart

doubletrouble? wrote: »

right lets call a spade a spade here.

i've just highlighted the most important word here.
"stranger"
most parents with young kids of buggy going use whether it's a father or a mother will not give their baby/child to a complete stranger to hold. for one you dont know who "the stranger" is. then you have the other aspect of anything can happen is seconds. what if the stranger drops the baby, what if!!!. there are so many what if's.
thanks but no thanks.

well said wolf. they are in deed the rules. one or the other. i'll also add.
a bus driver can request that the buggy be folded if a wheelchair user is waiting to board.
under no circumstances can a driver force someone to fold their occupied buggy if a wheel chair user wishes to boards the bus.
i've have seen all sides of this argument up front. while i do sympathise with a wheel chair user and i really do ,you also have to look at it from a parents point of view.
theres no point in coming on this thread and saying "what if" i had a buggy etc. my point is unless you have actual experience as a parent trying to board a bus then you dont know what it's really like to be in that situation.
i used to be like alot posters here "well if i had!!!!",but in reality i hadn't, it's only when the twins came along that my view has changed full circle.
nowadays i will treat both equally.

I should imagine that this posters experience and viewpoint explains exactly why the Equality Commissioner's adjudication emerged as it did....Solomon Himself would have struggled to solve this to everybodys satisfaction...:)