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Same sex marriage legalised in New Zealand, House of Representatives bursts into song

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    I thought they were gonna sing Faith by George Michael.. disappointed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,462 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    A showtune was it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Ha! that's actually pretty cool.

    +1 for the use of the word shitehawk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Just like the Dáil.

    Half empty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    I thought they were gonna sing Faith by George Michael.. disappointed.

    I was expecting YMCA. Also disappointed.


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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GLEE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    No Abba?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭View


    longshanks wrote: »
    Fair play to hte Kiwis, it all seems a lot more civilised and progressive than anything the shitehawks representing us are capable of.

    That's an unreasonable criticism of our politicians. The legal advice they have received is apparently that a constitutional amendment would be necessary to introduce same-sex marriage here - an amendment which, based on the electorate's past record of conservative social attitudes, would quite probably be lost (Remember divorce only passed on the second attempt by a narrow margin).

    As such, same-sex union would need to be introduced and broadly accepted before a constitutional amendment to support same-sex marriage will be put to the people. Even then there will no guarantee on the outcome..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,462 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    View wrote: »
    That's an unreasonable criticism of our politicians. The legal advice they have received is apparently that a constitutional amendment would be necessary to introduce same-sex marriage here - an amendment which, based on the electorate's past record of conservative social attitudes, would quite probably be lost (Remember divorce only passed on the second attempt by a narrow margin).

    As such, same-sex union would need to be introduced and broadly accepted before a constitutional amendment to support same-sex marriage will be put to the people. Even then there will no guarantee on the outcome..

    Possibly because older people make up a higher proportion in referendoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    I think it will take a couple of generations for this stuff to happen. It completely sucks, but we're still run a Catholic conservative mindset, both in the Dail and in the country in general.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Terry1985


    <insert "Lord of the Rings" joke here>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    If that doesn't move you, you're probably David Quinn.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    this is so great to see love is love :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Bee Gees?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    Nowhere in our Constitution does it define 'marriage'. It has repeatedly been stressed that the Constitution is a 'living document' to be interpretted contemporarily. Furthermore, the Constitution states that the state is obliged to 'protect the family'. Therefore, it could certainly be argued that by leaving so many families unprotected, the state is failing in its obligation to protect the family, and should therefore legislate for protection of non-conventinal families.
    IMO, Enda just doesn't want to make a hard decision and is dragging this issue out in order to buy time. If it is put to referendum, he is unlikely to lose votes from his more conservatives voters as he can say that it was essentially out of his hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    anyone notice the song has the tune of a mhuire mhathair


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    anyone notice the song has the tune of a mhuire mhathair

    I thought of it straight away when I heard it! Although I did hear other songs with the same tune before, that often happens- it's originally a Maori song called Pokarekare Ana, a kind of unofficial NZ anthem.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I was expecting my lovely horse but nonetheless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,139 ✭✭✭flanzer


    Our lot would break into 10 Hail Marys and 5 Our Fathers before the vote, then scratch their heads after it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    flanzer wrote: »
    Our lot would break into 10 Hail Marys and 5 Our Fathers before the vote, then scratch their heads after it

    It's OK they'd keep their hats on and not scratch their heads.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Awesome. I'm pretty sure they were the first folks to give women the vote too. Blasted kiwis, making us look bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭13spanner


    Whoomp, there it is! Whoomp, there it is! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,519 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Just like the Dáil.

    Half empty.

    Seems like the chamber is a lot smaller to begin with. I propose we thin out our numbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    This is also great, guessing it was before the vote.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    The NZ parliament works hard, so they get to play hard



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Duffinution uv merrige ummendmunt bull?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    View wrote: »
    That's an unreasonable criticism of our politicians. The legal advice they have received is apparently that a constitutional amendment would be necessary to introduce same-sex marriage here - an amendment which, based on the electorate's past record of conservative social attitudes, would quite probably be lost (Remember divorce only passed on the second attempt by a narrow margin).

    As such, same-sex union would need to be introduced and broadly accepted before a constitutional amendment to support same-sex marriage will be put to the people. Even then there will no guarantee on the outcome..


    Oh give it to the people to decide. The Irish constitution needs to be ripped up and shredded in many parts, it's wayyy to out of date for modern society


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,522 ✭✭✭tigger123


    What better way to celebrate progress than bursting into song! :):):)


  • Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭AnarchistKen


    I'd love to see this happen in Ireland. Fair play to the kiwis.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Village People and Donna Summers medley.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    View wrote: »
    That's an unreasonable criticism of our politicians. The legal advice they have received is apparently that a constitutional amendment would be necessary to introduce same-sex marriage here - an amendment which, based on the electorate's past record of conservative social attitudes, would quite probably be lost (Remember divorce only passed on the second attempt by a narrow margin).

    As such, same-sex union would need to be introduced and broadly accepted before a constitutional amendment to support same-sex marriage will be put to the people. Even then there will no guarantee on the outcome..

    Wha? How can it be introduced without the amendment?

    edit - Ah right sorry (always read with glasses on!), union before marriage. I have to say going via an intermediary stage seems increasingly pointless. I think marriage would be passed, the people are well ahead of the political classes on this sort of thing these days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭DaveDaRave


    A show of solidarity like twigs in a faggót


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Pessimist


    Brought tears to my eyes! I hope Australia follows suit but they would need a Referendum & they're hard to pass there (majority of people in majority of states). But a lot of people are behind it there so fingers crossed!

    Would be great if it was also passed in Ireland as well. I do find since I've moved here that people can be a little defeatest though. Assume something will fail due to the older generation or Catholic Church so don't even try to make things happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Oh give it to the people to decide. The Irish constitution needs to be ripped up and shredded in many parts, it's wayyy to out of date for modern society

    That exact thing is being done right now :pac: Or is supposed to be in the Constitutional Convention.
    Pessimist wrote: »
    Would be great if it was also passed in Ireland as well. I do find since I've moved here that people can be a little defeatest though. Assume something will fail due to the older generation or Catholic Church so don't even try to make things happen.

    Are you calling us Pessimists? :P And mostly we feel that because it's true, the Old cnuts would all be out to vote because their Parish priest would want to see them at the polling stations.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Meangadh wrote: »
    I thought of it straight away when I heard it! Although I did hear other songs with the same tune before, that often happens- it's originally a Maori song called Pokarekare Ana, a kind of unofficial NZ anthem.

    It's uncanny how similar they sound


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mick_sheen wrote: »
    new zealand is a peculiar place

    How so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    orestes wrote: »
    Awesome. I'm pretty sure they were the first folks to give women the vote too. Blasted kiwis, making us look bad.


    Yup they were


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    They seem to get by fine with 120 MPs with 4.4m population, whereas we must have 166 for 4.6m population.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    So very very cheering - both the result and the reaction to the result.

    If you want a nice laugh have a listen to one of the NZ politicians giving his view in the lead-up to this vote.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCDEiaoEP2U&feature=player_embedded

    He's awesome and hilarious :).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭mcwinning


    snubbleste wrote: »
    They seem to get by fine with 120 MPs with 4.4m population, whereas we must have 166 for 4.6m population.


    NZ is 3 times the size of Ireland as well, crazy that we have so many.

    Back on topic, fair play Kiwis!


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Great stuff, nice video. Still 77 for, 44 against booo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Great stuff, nice video. Still 77 for, 44 against booo

    How so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    How so?

    Because equality is a good thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Great stuff, nice video. Still 77 for, 44 against booo

    Whether we agree with it or not, we mustn't forget that people have a right to vote No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    orestes wrote: »
    Awesome. I'm pretty sure they were the first folks to give women the vote too. Blasted kiwis, making us look bad.

    New Zealand gave voting rights to women in 1893, at a time when ireland was being completely governed by britain, not really like we could have given women the vote even if we wanted to.

    Also until 1928 women could only vote under certain conditions in the UK like being over 30 and owning property or having been to university. Here in ireland though men and women had equal voting rights at 21 years old right from independance. Not as backward as people here love to think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Wonder will they do the Haka when same sex divorce is legalised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    New Zealand gave voting rights to women in 1893, at a time when ireland was being completely governed by britain, not really like we could have given women the vote even if we wanted to.

    Also until 1928 women could only vote under certain conditions in the UK like being over 30 and owning property or having been to university. Here in ireland though men and women had equal voting rights at 21 years old right from independance. Not as backward as people here love to think.

    In fairness we slowed the fuk down to a snail's pace after that for decades


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    We also legalised homosexuality in 1993 and within 20 years had civil unions. It's also looking more and more likely that we're headed toward full legalised gay marriage. Not too bad for a country that's been ruled by the iron fist of the church for so long. These things don't happen overnight, but we're progressing at a faster rate than some would like to admit, I think.

    And fair play to the Kiwis!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭La_Gordy


    That was one of the few things on the Internet that ever made me physically happy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    La_Gordy wrote: »
    That was one of the few things on the Internet that ever made me physically happy

    Really? Have you discovered pornhub yet?


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