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NBA Playoffs 2012/13

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    #122
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    It's called marketing.
    I'm well aware of that, it is my job! I pointed it out for the fact Kobe said he didn't know about it!


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    #123
    PizzamanIRL
    Registered Users Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Carcharodon wrote: »
    Kobe Bryant is a disease, yea he is all for winning but zero for team play.

    Hmmm. Yeah. OK. :confused:


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    #124
    buyer95
    Registered Users Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭buyer95


    Atlanta are definitely in with a shout in this one, they just have to stop constanstly turning it over


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    #125
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Voice of a fricking angel.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlqvwOiBFP4


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    #126
    Nuri Sahin
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    Paul George dominating here. On course for a triple double.

    Been a fairly poor game, not that I expected much tbf.


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    #127
    buyer95
    Registered Users Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭buyer95


    I was wrong, Indiana now dominating, Josh chucking up 3s, Atlanta never changes...


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    #128
    kmart6
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    Atlanta just aren't going away!


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    #129
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Fcuk sake Kevin don't tell me to go back to the main channel cause the tennis is over and leave me watching ads!


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    #130
    Felexicon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Carcharodon wrote: »
    Kobe Bryant is a disease, yea he is all for winning but zero for team play.
    WOW

    Apart from the fact that you are completely incorrect about Kobes level of selfishness, calling someone a disease is a tad harsh.


    He also equaled his career best of 6 assists per game this ear which is a very god number for a shooting guard


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    #131
    buyer95
    Registered Users Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭buyer95


    What I would say if I was there right now? "Pau get ur ass on the block and don't move till u get it" #realtalk
    Kobe on twitter.

    Thats where the advantage is, Kobe speaking the truth.


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    #132
    NufcNavan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭NufcNavan


    Pacers looked aggressive in game 1. Made the Hawks settle for long jumpshots and got to the line a lot.

    They should see off the Hawks in 5 or 6 but the rest of their playoff run will depend on how well Paul George plays.


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    #133
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Denver GSW Series is over if Lee is out. Shame for GSW.


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    #134
    Paully D
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    Lakers have thrown their chance in this game away. What a crazy last few minutes of the 3rd from them.


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    #135
    Felexicon
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    Paully D wrote: »
    Lakers have thrown their chance in this game away. What a crazy last few minutes of the 3rd from them.
    Bizarre shot selection from Blake,stupid foul by Howard and letting Ginobli shot open 3s?

    Go home Lakers, you're drunk


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    #136
    PizzamanIRL
    Registered Users Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Looks like it's gonna be 6-0 to the home teams so far.

    Who will be the first to win away from home. Houston tonight is my guess.


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    #137
    kmart6
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    Fcuk sake Pau!!!


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    #138
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,980 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    buyer95 wrote: »
    Your trolling is a disease, Kobe is on the the greats.

    How is it trolling ? Obviously Kobe is "on the the greats" as you say but this whole love affair people buy into with him through the media is pathetic. One of the most selfish players ever to play the game and has never made the players around him better like Jordan did, he has caused so much disruption through all the teams he has been on through the years, getting players traded, no respect for coaches.
    Just keep on listening to espn for your opinions :rolleyes:


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    #139
    Felexicon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Carcharodon wrote: »
    How is it trolling ? Obviously Kobe is "on the the greats" as you say but this whole love affair people buy into with him through the media is pathetic. One of the most selfish players ever to play the game and has never made the players around him better like Jordan did, he has caused so much disruption through all the teams he has been on through the years, getting players traded, no respect for coaches.
    Just keep on listening to espn for your opinions :rolleyes:
    You're right I'm sure DJ Mbenga would have his rings without Kobe :rolleyes:


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    #140
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,980 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Felexicon wrote: »
    You're right I'm sure DJ Mbenga would have his rings without Kobe :rolleyes:

    That's not a valid point at all, just an uninformed soundbite


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    #141
    PizzamanIRL
    Registered Users Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Carcharodon wrote: »
    How is it trolling ? Obviously Kobe is "on the the greats" as you say but this whole love affair people buy into with him through the media is pathetic. One of the most selfish players ever to play the game and has never made the players around him better like Jordan did, he has caused so much disruption through all the teams he has been on through the years, getting players traded, no respect for coaches.
    Just keep on listening to espn for your opinions :rolleyes:

    All your points are just media talk too.


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    #142
    buyer95
    Registered Users Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭buyer95


    Carcharodon wrote: »
    How is it trolling ? Obviously Kobe is "on the the greats" as you say but this whole love affair people buy into with him through the media is pathetic. One of the most selfish players ever to play the game and has never made the players around him better like Jordan did, he has caused so much disruption through all the teams he has been on through the years, getting players traded, no respect for coaches.
    Just keep on listening to espn for your opinions :rolleyes:

    How many rings does Stockton have? He was completely unselfish and played with another of the greats in Malone. Kobe did what he had to do to win, and like someone else on here pointed out, his assist stats arnt even that bad.


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    #143
    Felexicon
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    Carcharodon wrote: »
    That's not a valid point at all, just an uninformed soundbite
    As was your post. If you wish to point to exact instances f what you claim( getting players traded etc) I'll happily discuss them with you. But to say Kobe hasn't made players around him better is nonsense. Just by Kobe being on the floor other players perform to a better standard because Kobe demands so much attention from the opposition defense


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    #144
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,980 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Felexicon wrote: »
    As was your post. If you wish to point to exact instances f what you claim( getting players traded etc) I'll happily discuss them with you. But to say Kobe hasn't made players around him better is nonsense. Just by Kobe being on the floor other players perform to a better standard because Kobe demands so much attention from the opposition defense

    Shaq is the obvious one, after he came and won 3 rings Kobe forced him out, then he had to wait for Gasol to do it again.
    He used to talk on his phone while Phil was trying to give pre game talks.
    He is a great player no doubt but the love affair is cringing.


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    #145
    Felexicon
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    Carcharodon wrote: »
    Shaq is the obvious one, after he came and won 3 rings Kobe forced him out, then he had to wait for Gasol to do it again.
    He used to talk on his phone while Phil was trying to give pre game talks.
    He is a great player no doubt but the love affair is cringing.
    Well Shaq and Kobe were never going to co-exist. Yes Kobe as very vocal about "wanting his time" but it was the organisation that that made the decision based on the way the rules in the league were changing to favour guards at the time. In the end it turned out to be the correct decision.

    As for him being on the phone, you'll need to give me a link because I've not heard that.

    I really don't see where the love affair bit is coming from. If you look through the regular season thread you'll see myself and other Laker and non Laker fans giving out about Kobe at various stages.

    It's a weird response for you to have to a fluff advertisment from Nike tbh


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    #146
    padraig_f
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    Go Bucks!


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    #147
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,980 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Well Shaq and Kobe were never going to co-exist. Yes Kobe as very vocal about "wanting his time" but it was the organisation that that made the decision based on the way the rules in the league were changing to favour guards at the time. In the end it turned out to be the correct decision.

    As for him being on the phone, you'll need to give me a link because I've not heard that.

    I really don't see where the love affair bit is coming from. If you look through the regular season thread you'll see myself and other Laker and non Laker fans giving out about Kobe at various stages.

    It's a weird response for you to have to a fluff advertisment from Nike tbh

    Well disease was not meant to be taken literally.
    I will just never understand why people look past some of the major flaws he has shown, not to even mention those things that are outside basketball, some role model alright.


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    #148
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,980 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    buyer95 wrote: »
    How many rings does Stockton have? He was completely unselfish and played with another of the greats in Malone. Kobe did what he had to do to win, and like someone else on here pointed out, his assist stats arnt even that bad.

    You can't base everything on stats.
    As for Stockton, do you think players like this would change the legacy of how they played the game all for a ring ?


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    #149
    Felexicon
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    Carcharodon wrote: »
    Well disease was not meant to be taken literally.
    I will just never understand why people look past some of the major flaws he has shown, not to even mention those things that are outside basketball, some role model alright.
    But you're not putting forward examples of these major flaws.

    No body here has ever mentioned him as a role model so not sure where that's coming from.

    Which players do you think should be held in higher standing than Kobe?


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    #150
    padraig_f
    Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭padraig_f


    I loved this ad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HaBya2k2vc


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    #151
    buyer95
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    Carcharodon wrote: »
    You can't base everything on stats.
    As for Stockton, do you think players like this would change the legacy of how they played the game all for a ring ?

    In a word yes, you do what you have to do for your team to win, you adapt your game to the situation your in, which is what Kobe did. Im not bashing Stockton he was an unbelievable player. Kobe simply could not have 5 championships if he wasnt a team player. As M.J himself said
    " There are plenty of teams in every sport that have great players and
    never win titles. Most of the time, those players aren't willing to
    sacrifice for the greater good of the team. The funny thing is, in
    the end, their unwillingness to sacrifice only makes individual
    goals more difficult to achieve. One thing I believe to the fullest
    is that if you think and achieve as a team, the individual accolades
    will take care of themselves. Talent wins games, but teamwork and
    intelligence win championships    .”
    Kobe is motivated by winning, not individual stats, those stats are a bi-product of his refusal to ever give up.But he needed his teamates to win, just look how many times Fisher made game winning shots for the lakers when Kobe was at the helm of the team. Listen I've often critised him on this website, just look back to the regular season to see that. Its just your initiall comment really rankled with me. But I saw how he willed this team into the playoffs, often even refusing to sit during games, his passion was awe inspiring. He is a living legend, and I really felt for him when he went down with that ACL injury, it just seemed so unjust, after all he had done for the team to get them into the playoffs.


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