Ex Fianna Fail Junior Minister / Senator on bail

raymon

One of Fianna Fail's finest , Ivor Callely PC has been arrested charged with 6 counts of fraud

I do note he has resigned from FF recently

Well done DPP for pressing ahead with the case.

http://m.rte.ie/news/touch/2013/0419/382410-callely-arrest/

johnnydeep

raymon wrote: »

One of Fianna Fail's finest , Ivor Callely PC has been arrested charged with 6 counts of fraud

I do note he has resigned from FF recently

Well done DPP for pressing ahead with the case.

http://m.rte.ie/news/touch/2013/0419/382410-callely-arrest/

is he really their finest. is this really a good way to waste more of the taxpayers money. whats the best that could come from this. this is for the medias benefit and being used to deflect attention from the fact that this government is as useless and gutless as the last

raymon

johnnydeep wrote: »

is he really their finest. is this really a good way to waste more of the taxpayers money. whats the best that could come from this. this is for the medias benefit and being used to deflect attention from the fact that this government is as useless and gutless as the last

I think bringing alleged thieves to justice is a great use of taxpayers money.
The best that can come of it is that alleged thieves , can be incarcerated if found guilty .
I hope they take the likes of Lowry through the system too.

oscarBravo

johnnydeep wrote: »

is this really a good way to waste more of the taxpayers money.

You're absolutely right. Why would taxpayers want to see white-collar criminals and fraudsters prosecuted?

johnnydeep

if we made Ireland into one big jail. we still wouldn't have enough room for everybody guilty of fraud. so what you are saying is that the tens of thousands that will be involved in bringing what probably wont even be a successful prosecution against somebody guilty of petty fraud. would be money better spent than say paying for a life saving equipment in a hospital.

michael999999

The thing is when Callelly was not re elected to the dail the last time he ran, fianna fail hero bertie ahern appointed him to the seanad. Talk about as thick as thieves!

oscarBravo

johnnydeep wrote: »

if we made Ireland into one big jail. we still wouldn't have enough room for everybody guilty of fraud. so what you are saying is that the tens of thousands that will be involved in bringing what probably wont even be a successful prosecution against somebody guilty of petty fraud. would be money better spent than say paying for a life saving equipment in a hospital.

That's a compelling argument for never prosecuting anyone for fraud ever until every hospital is fully equipped; in effect, you're arguing for the de facto legalisation of fraud.

You'll have to forgive me for disagreeing.

raymon

johnnydeep wrote: »

if we made Ireland into one big jail. we still wouldn't have enough room for everybody guilty of fraud. so what you are saying is that the tens of thousands that will be involved in bringing what probably wont even be a successful prosecution against somebody guilty of petty fraud. would be money better spent than say paying for a life saving equipment in a hospital.

There is no money for equipment because Michael Martin and Mary Harney destroyed our health service.

There is no money because Fianna Fail bailed out their golf buddies in Anglo and handed our soverignty away to foreigners.

Not because the DPP has decided to charge Fianna Fail's all star Callely on 6 counts of Fraud

I don't see your point!

Manach

While the investigation is to be welcomed in theory, given the lack of progress in investigating the Banking crisis and the numerous breaches of Company law due in most part to a lack of staffing resources by the body charge to do so, perhaps the manpower for this might be better directed?

raymon

Manach wrote: »

While the investigation is to be welcomed in theory, given the lack of progress in investigating the Banking crisis and the numerous breaches of Company law due in most part to a lack of staffing resources by the body charge to do so, perhaps the manpower for this might be better directed?

Direct resources elsewhere and let Callely off the hook? What message would that send to white collar thieves ? Or what message would it send to Fianna Fail?

Don't get me wrong , the banking crisis should be investigated too .

goose2005

johnnydeep wrote: »

if we made Ireland into one big jail. we still wouldn't have enough room for everybody guilty of fraud. so what you are saying is that the tens of thousands that will be involved in bringing what probably wont even be a successful prosecution against somebody guilty of petty fraud. would be money better spent than say paying for a life saving equipment in a hospital.

Would you extend the same logic to shoplifting, pickpocketing, burglary? Or does it only count if it's the sort of crime daycent middle-class people commit?

bmaxi

Isn't it mazing how the FF apologists come out of the woodwork whenever it looks likely that one of "their own" is in danger of getting their just desserts. Speaks volumes for the ethics of members of that organisation.
Politics in this country is morally bankrupt, we should be applauding any effort, however insignificant it may seem, to prosecute those who brought it to that state, mighty oaks from little acorns grow. Long may it last

Hootanany

Why is it not.

johnnydeep

raymon wrote: »

There is no money for equipment because Michael Martin and Mary Harney destroyed our health service.

There is no money because Fianna Fail bailed out their golf buddies in Anglo and handed our soverignty away to foreigners.

Not because the DPP has decided to charge Fianna Fail's all star Callely on 6 counts of Fraud

I don't see your point!

surely enda and f.g have that mess sorted by now. it really is never ending

johnnydeep

goose2005 wrote: »

Would you extend the same logic to shoplifting, pickpocketing, burglary? Or does it only count if it's the sort of crime daycent middle-class people commit?

so everybody caught pickpocketing etc. is prosecuted. that must be a drain on our limited resources, lets hope they all don't get custodial sentences or we will be rightly ****ed

johnnydeep

bmaxi wrote: »

Isn't it mazing how the FF apologists come out of the woodwork whenever it looks likely that one of "their own" is in danger of getting their just desserts. Speaks volumes for the ethics of members of that organisation.
Politics in this country is morally bankrupt, we should be applauding any effort, however insignificant it may seem, to prosecute those who brought it to that state, mighty oaks from little acorns grow. Long may it last

what amazing is that f.g apoligists cling to every none story to try and detract attention from f.g's very poor performance in government.
cue f.f made a mess and f.g are making a great job of cleaning it up. hard decisions need to be made etc.

bmaxi

johnnydeep wrote: »

what amazing is that f.g apoligists cling to every none story to try and detract attention from f.g's very poor performance in government.
cue f.f made a mess and f.g are making a great job of cleaning it up. hard decisions need to be made etc.

You're trying to detract from the fact that you're a FF apologist by implying that I'm a FG apologist. Try again.