Girl (5) fighting for her life in New Delhi after brutal 48-hour rape ordeal

Da Shins Kelly

WayneMolloy wrote: »

500 million Indians live on a dollar a day. Imagine living life experiencing such conditions?

The Indian government and the moderate to extremely wealthy dont give a f*ck. I think its a caste thing - they view the down and outs as below them and less human.

You can shame them into doing something alright(like the mdia are doing now). But you wont change the attitude and the culture.

It won't happen overnight, but attitudes can and do change.

WayneMolloy

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

It won't happen overnight, but attitudes can and do change.

Oh yes, and not always for the better. The left in Sweden managed to turn their country into the rape capital of Europe. A remarkable achievement.

Anyway, we have evil rapists in our midst here in Ireland, we dont have to go to India to find them. Some demonic creature raped a women at gunpoint in baldoyle a few days ago. Woman was only in here early 20s - another innocent woman has her live ruined.

Hasnt been nabbed yet afaik - http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/woman-tiedup-and-raped-at-gunpoint-in-the-baldoyle-suburb-of-dublin-29205995.html

shedweller

Push Pop wrote: »

Generally, the left leaning media shies away from reporting stories like this as it can fuel xenophobia and racism.
Remember Nicola Furlongs death in Tokyo? Hardly reported at all in the USA.

**** that. Bring on the Xenomorph. And maybe a b-52. For backup.

Lou.m

Grayson wrote: »

There are war torn places in africa where as many as 1 in 3 women have been raped. The world is a very messed up place.

Closer to home, I have to say, I hate guns. But as dangerous as tasers are, I'd have no problem with women being allowed to carry a small one as a defence measure.

Much higher than one in three in Africa.... in AMERICA 1in3 women will be assaulted in her lifetime.. http://www.woar.org/resources/sexual-assault-statistics.php


As I said in Africa it is much much higher....life is tough there..people behave like animals when under great stress and trauma

Nodin

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I don't need to hear about it. Don't listen to that crap.

I have seen it and been told it.

I currently live right beside a estate with 12 houses. 9 of them have both partners not working. Been like that since they arrived. Everyone of them has 10
reg car or better. Best of everything.

Or maybe they just had loads of money stashed away in bank. I'm friendly with 1 guy. Lovely fella but he admitted it too me what goes on.

Load of mickey, tbh.

Grand Moff Tarkin

Nodin wrote: »

Load of mickey, tbh.

?????

Interrobang

dark crystal wrote: »

Fuck I wish I hadn't read that.

Same here, but we should, because otherwise we do a huge injustice to the victim and become complicit in turning a blind eye to sickening outrages like this.

I love my kids more than anything else in the world, but stories like this make me wonder whether I should have had them. My daughter - my small, innocent, happy, trusting, vulnerable little daughter - is the same age at this poor child. The thoughts of something like this ever happening to her destroys me, and yet it's not beyond the bounds of possibility. That terrifies me.

woodoo

WayneMolloy wrote: »

Oh yes, and not always for the better. The left in Sweden managed to turn their country into the rape capital of Europe. A remarkable achievement.

Anyway, we have evil rapists in our midst here in Ireland, we dont have to go to India to find them. Some demonic creature raped a women at gunpoint in baldoyle a few days ago. Woman was only in here early 20s - another innocent woman has her live ruined.

Hasnt been nabbed yet afaik - http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/woman-tiedup-and-raped-at-gunpoint-in-the-baldoyle-suburb-of-dublin-29205995.html

Attacker was not irish btw. They don't give a description of the attacker and i'm sure the woman gave one. Make of that what you will.

Nodin

Grand Moff Tarkin wrote: »

?????

You don't understand what "load of mickey" means? "Load of bollocks" perhaps? "load of crap"?

The_Kew_Tour

Nodin wrote: »

Load of mickey, tbh.

LOL

Pot meet kettle

Nodin

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

LOL

Pot meet kettle

You claimed it, it's for you to back it up. I await with bated breath.

The_Kew_Tour

Interrobang wrote: »

Same here, but we should, because otherwise we do a huge injustice to the victim and become complicit in turning a blind eye to sickening outrages like this.

I love my kids more than anything else in the world, but stories like this make me wonder whether I should have had them. My daughter - my small, innocent, happy, trusting, vulnerable little daughter - is the same age at this poor child. The thoughts of something like this ever happening to her destroys me, and yet it's not beyond the bounds of possibility. That terrifies me.

I don't have children so I can't really with confidence, but you have to leave children have a life too.

Hearing these stories should not make any parent afraid just more aware.

99% of people are decent honest human beings, don't any parent let few nut jobs get in way.

orestes

A horrific rape of a 5 year old girl = immigration thread?

Seriously, what the fukk?

Grand Moff Tarkin

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

LOL

Pot meet kettle

Oh so you are saying he is telling a fib. Now i get you.

Legs.Eleven

I think this might be the saddest thing I've read in a long time. How upsetting. The poor little girl.

The_Kew_Tour

Just shocked that this made no headlines.

Just hope this girl can get near to normal life as possible. Not sure how but hope she does.

Spanish Harlem

Why are people pretending race isn't an issue here? Over 7,200 infants are raped each year in India. From the BBC. When adults are included, that number swells to over 24,200 reported cases. From Human Rights Watch. The actual number is estimated to be a lot higher.

Then we have South Africa, which holds the dubious honour of rape capital of the planet. In South Africa, it's estimated that a woman is raped every 26 seconds and a child every 15 minutes. Source. Raping children cures you of AIDs, don't you know. Many sub-Saharan Africans refuse to take western medicine as they see it as poison from the White Devils.

Back to Western society. In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man. Source.

I have already linked to the Times article about the deliberate media silence on Pakistani sex rings grooming white children in the UK for sex. The vast majority of rapes, even in Western societies, are caused by non-whites. Now convince me why more non-EU immigration is a good thing. How will it benefit me. Links to back up your argument would be nice.

We must first acknowledge that a problem exists before we can tackle it.

Nodin

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

Why are people pretending race isn't an issue here?..............

Nobody here is pretending race isn't an issue, because race isn't an issue.

Spanish Harlem

Nodin wrote: »

Nobody here is pretending race isn't an issue, because race isn't an issue.

You conveniently left out my entire post.

Nodin

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

You conveniently left out my entire post.

It's fairly irrelevant.

Spanish Harlem

Are you familiar with the scientific method?

Evidence: Rape is more common and frequent in Africa than anywhere else in the world. But maybe it's just their culture?
Place blacks in Western culture, eg. USA, to test theory.
Evidence: Blacks are still the main culprits of rape in the USA. They also have a tendency to prefer whites as their victim.
Conclusion: Rape is connected to race.

charlemont

sub continent/ sub human
Shower of dirty bastards.

Nodin

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

Are you familiar with the scientific method?

Evidence: Rape is more common and frequent in Africa than anywhere else in the world. But maybe it's just their culture?
Place blacks in Western culture, eg. USA, to test theory.
Evidence: Blacks are still the main culprits of rape in the USA. They also have a tendency to prefer whites as their victim.
Conclusion: Rape is connected to race.

Your source for that was laurence auster. Heres some more of his thoughts

I have always called myself a racialist, which to me means two things. First, as a general proposition, I think that race matters in all kinds of ways. Second, I care about the white race. It is the source of and is inseparable from everything we are, everything we have, and everything our civilization has achieved. .....................However, when I contemplate today’s systematic campaign, organized and backed by all the ruling powers of society, to put down, demonize, disempower, and marginalize the white race, I think it is shaping up as the greatest crime in the history of mankind.

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012647.html

Not the most reliable source.

Spanish Harlem

Nodin wrote: »

It's fairly irrelevant.

A post full of sources from the BBC to Human Rights Watch and you dismiss it as "irrelevant". Talk about sticking your hand in the sand.

As for the Laurence Auster source, he sourced his figures from the Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2005 report from the US State Department of Justice. Black on white rape is an epidemic whereas the reverse is almost non-existent. Now, try to tell me why mo' non-EU immigration to Ireland is a good thing.

Nodin

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

A....... Now, try to tell me why mo' non-EU immigration to Ireland is a good thing.

Theres very little non-EU immigration to Ireland so i'm not sure of the relevance.....

Is everywhere outside the EU all rapey?

Grand Moff Tarkin

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

You conveniently left out my entire post.

He is always doing that. Old trick on his part.

Spanish Harlem

Nodin wrote: »

Theres very little non-EU immigration to Ireland so i'm not sure of the relevance.....

Is everywhere outside the EU all rapey?

I guess we can look forward to more of this in the future!

From the Irish Times -
rapist-told-woman-he-was-hiv-positive-as-he-laughed-at-her-1.1042429. Thanks Nodin!

Nodin

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

I guess we can look forward to more of this in the future!

From the Irish Times -
rapist-told-woman-he-was-hiv-positive-as-he-laughed-at-her-1.1042429. Thanks Nodin!

You've some point, I take it....?

Spanish Harlem

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

Are you familiar with the scientific method?

Evidence: Rape is more common and frequent in Africa than anywhere else in the world. But maybe it's just their culture?
Place blacks in Western culture, eg. USA, to test theory.
Evidence: Blacks are still the main culprits of rape in the USA. They also have a tendency to prefer whites as their victim.
Conclusion: Rape is connected to race.

Does socio economic grouping, historical categorisation, social prejudice, low societal expectation, poor educational opportunity, highly gendered roles, generational poverty-driven criminality or physical deprivation have nothing at all to do with the attitudes that foster rape acceptance among some communities more than others?

Is it not the case that any group of people consistently subjected to much less than ideal conditions will throw up a small percentage who sometimes turn into less than ideal people?

Or is it all down to the level of melanin in the skin?

Killer Wench

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

Back to Western society. In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man. Source.

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What a load of racist bull ****. Frontpage Magazine is a known right-wing hack job known for its anti-Muslim slant. David Horowitz, the publisher, is a complete nutjob and you lack any type of credibility citing him on crime statistics.

Spanish Harlem

I know the resident lefties feel obliged to defend the brown people, no matter what their crime, but any neutral readers of this thread will have read the mountain of evidence I have presented. Deep down, they know that statistically they're more likely to be raped by a non-white.

Girls, never walk home alone after a night out. Please get a taxi. Don't suffer the same fate as Nicola Furlong RIP. The 24 hour Rape Crisis helpline is 1800 77 88 88. Save this number in your phone. Please stay safe.

Da Shins Kelly

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

I know the resident lefties feel obliged to defend the brown people, no matter what their crime, but any neutral readers of this thread will have read the mountain of evidence I have presented. Deep down, they know that statistically they're more likely to be raped by a non-white.

Girls, never walk home alone after a night out. Please get a taxi. Don't suffer the same fate as Nicola Furlong RIP. The 24 hour Rape Crisis helpline is 1800 77 88 88. Save this number in your phone. Please stay safe.

STFU.

humanji

Spanish Harlem banned for excessively breaching forum charter

Killer Wench

humanji wrote: »

Spanish Harlem banned for excessively breaching forum charter

Thanks!

kjl

I come to after hours for a giggle and maybe a debate. Please don't post this upsetting stuff anymore.

kjl

kjl wrote: »

I come to after hours for a giggle and maybe a debate. Please don't post this upsetting stuff anymore.

I don't understand that.

It was obvious from the title what the subject was, and you should exercise your right not to click the thread if you'll find it upsetting.

Legs.Eleven

humanji wrote: »

Spanish Harlem banned for excessively breaching forum charter

This has made my day.

Wilberto

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

This has made my day.

I felt his last post was particularly racist!

Not to mention deeply insensitive.

woodoo

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

A post full of sources from the BBC to Human Rights Watch and you dismiss it as "irrelevant". Talk about sticking your hand in the sand.

As for the Laurence Auster source, he sourced his figures from the Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2005 report from the US State Department of Justice. Black on white rape is an epidemic whereas the reverse is almost non-existent. Now, try to tell me why mo' non-EU immigration to Ireland is a good thing.

There is some truth in that but we live in a place now where you will be silenced for raising it and i'm not just referring to boards. Maybe the problem is cultural or maybe its genetic i don't know. But there is a problem. Sweeping it under the carpet is not the answer.

WayneMolloy

Wilberto wrote: »

I felt his last post was particularly racist!

Not to mention deeply insensitive.

Where the figures he produced false?

Death and Taxes

WayneMolloy wrote: »

Where the figures he produced false?

He's banned, happily,... enuf said

WayneMolloy

Spanish Harlem wrote: »

Why are people pretending race isn't an issue here? Over 7,200 infants are raped each year in India. From the BBC. When adults are included, that number swells to over 24,200 reported cases. From Human Rights Watch. The actual number is estimated to be a lot higher.

Then we have South Africa, which holds the dubious honour of rape capital of the planet. In South Africa, it's estimated that a woman is raped every 26 seconds and a child every 15 minutes. Source. Raping children cures you of AIDs, don't you know. Many sub-Saharan Africans refuse to take western medicine as they see it as poison from the White Devils.

Back to Western society. In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man. Source.

I have already linked to the Times article about the deliberate media silence on Pakistani sex rings grooming white children in the UK for sex. The vast majority of rapes, even in Western societies, are caused by non-whites. Now convince me why more non-EU immigration is a good thing. How will it benefit me. Links to back up your argument would be nice.

We must first acknowledge that a problem exists before we can tackle it.

This post here, wiley. Are the figures false?

Wilberto

WayneMolloy wrote: »

Where the figures he produced false?

Sigh.

If you actually read my post (Yes, the one you quoted) you would have noticed that I referred to his last post - i.e. this one

I know the resident lefties feel obliged to defend the brown people, no matter what their crime, but any neutral readers of this thread will have read the mountain of evidence I have presented. Deep down, they know that statistically they're more likely to be raped by a non-white.

Girls, never walk home alone after a night out. Please get a taxi. Don't suffer the same fate as Nicola Furlong RIP. The 24 hour Rape Crisis helpline is 1800 77 88 88. Save this number in your phone. Please stay safe.

I was not involved in any debate with him, and didn't refer to any of his previous posts which included his figures.

crockholm

Could these horrible rapes be attributed to certain cultures, by that I mean more prevailent in said cultures,as rape is committed in all cultures and societies.

A clip was shown on another thread about a young Flemish student who moved to a certain part of her capital city and was accosted daily,and through being hassled,became a lot more conservative in her attire.

I respect the work many feminists have fought for,in bringing about parity for the sexes,but are we willing to throw all that under the bus rather than being critical of misogonistic aspects of non-european cultures.

RUSTEDCORE

dark crystal wrote: »

Fuck I wish I hadn't read that.

We are not ostrich,s
we do not bury our heads in the sand
we are human
we see a problem and fix it.


I for one would simply kill every rapist in a ever unique horrific way

southsiderosie

crockholm wrote: »

Could these horrible rapes be attributed to certain cultures, by that I mean more prevailent in said cultures,as rape is committed in all cultures and societies.

A clip was shown on another thread about a young Flemish student who moved to a certain part of her capital city and was accosted daily,and through being hassled,became a lot more conservative in her attire.

I respect the work many feminists have fought for,in bringing about parity for the sexes,but are we willing to throw all that under the bus rather than being critical of misogonistic aspects of non-european cultures.

Unfortunately it seems to be more prevalent in cultures where women are devalued. The key word here is culture: some posters here are trying to make it about race. Many European countries weren't that enlightened when it came to these issues until fairly recently: it wasn't that long ago when an Italian judge ruled that it was impossible to rape a woman wearing blue jeans - and the sad context of that case was, at that time, some driving instructors in rural areas would sexually assault female students.

Push Pop

WayneMolloy wrote: »

Post a screenshot of the government cheque an immigrant used to purchase a car.

I dont think it happens, man. Ive heard Americans claim that Mexicans get free cars from the government too. A myth, in my view.

It does happen but it's not very much. The HSE can issue cheques for cars. I have no links but if you know any social workers for the HSE they can verify that.

WayneMolloy

Push Pop wrote: »

It does happen but it's not very much. The HSE can issue cheques for cars. I have no links but if you know any social workers for the HSE they can verify that.

I dont know any social workers. If its that prevalent than surely someone could take a pic of the cheque with their phone and upload it?

I do know someone who sells secondhand cars. Said hes never been given such a cheque.

Madam_X

southsiderosie wrote: »

Unfortunately it seems to be more prevalent in cultures where women are devalued. The key word here is culture: some posters here are trying to make it about race. Many European countries weren't that enlightened when it came to these issues until fairly recently: it wasn't that long ago when an Italian judge ruled that it was impossible to rape a woman wearing blue jeans - and the sad context of that case was, at that time, some driving instructors in rural areas would sexually assault female students.

Yeh there wasn't a great attitude towards women in Irish society up to less than four decades ago - due to an interpretation of catholicism, not due to people being Irish.

Nodin

Push Pop wrote: »

It does happen but it's not very much. The HSE can issue cheques for cars. I have no links but if you know any social workers for the HSE they can verify that.

On what grounds can they issue these cheques?