The DP World Tour Thread

Minderbinder

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

If he doesn't get his European Tour card in Oman he has Q-School Final Stage at Lumine in Spain to fall back on. Moynihan will also have conditional status on the European Tour next season which should see him play a minimum of 10 to 12 events also.

Sounds like being caught between two stools if he has 12 EuropeanTour events next year (the weaker events, unlikely to be enough to earn a card) and also has to do enough to finish high on the Challenge tour. Sometimes it may be better to put on the eggs in one basket!

Obviously he should play the ET events when they don’t clash with the Challenge tour.

Mantis Toboggan

Cracking leaderboard atm.

bigtimecharlie

I can see this going to a playoff.

LuckyGent88

Cracking leaderboard.

Great 2 shots from Paddy. Think the cumulative missed chances led to Lowry going for that tough shot on the Par 5

tommypepper

Poor decision Shane, great shot Padraig 46 yr old legend

LuckyGent88

That the boy Paddy. Perfectly played hole.

And Rose pours in another birdie.

mickmackey1

wow some finish

LuckyGent88

Great finish from Rose. Bit of a matchplay situation getting his putt in first

slave1

Great TV

LuckyGent88

Don't mind Rose winning again at all. Had a tough time after his hiccup at the masters but a class player

Synode

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Don't mind Rose winning again at all. Had a tough time after his hiccup at the masters but a class player

Great player and comes across as an absolute gent. I'll love him forever for the Ryder Cup in 2012. What a finish against Mickelson

Quintis

Synode wrote: »

Great player and comes across as an absolute gent. I'll love him forever for the Ryder Cup in 2012. What a finish against Mickelson

Only the 3rd player after Woods & McIlroy to win back to back after winning a WGC

Claregaafan18

Just 4 Irish golfers have progressed onto European Tour Q-School Final Stage which will take place in Lumine GC in both the Lakes and Hills Golf courses. Cormac Sharvin who shot his lowest round (64 - 8 under) in his pro career, in the final round of Stage 2 qualifying in Las Colinas qualified yesterday along with Dermot McElroy in El Saler. Today Ruairdri McGee comfortably qualified for the 6 round marathon event in the delayed final round in Panoramica.

However there was awful heartbreak for Gary Hurley who missed out in a place in Final stage Q-School by one shot and one place. Despite shooting a highly commendable 6 under over 4 rounds, that still put him in a tied for 23rd with the top 22 qualifying from Panoramica GC. Despite his huge talent, the West Waterford GC pro has no status on any tour as things stand for 2018.

The other Irish player to qualify for Lumine is Gavin Moynihan. To summarize around 23 or 24 Irish players played either 1st stage or 2nd stage qualifying but just 3 have made it onto the Final Stage with Moynihan qualifying via the Challenge Tour rankings. That is a very poor return and really this needs to be a wake up call for all those involved in promoting Irish golf. Personally I think that the government needs to start increasing funding that it gives to Sport Ireland and Team Ireland Golf for fledgling pros and even invest on those elite amateurs seeking a future in the pro game. 94,500 euro was the 2017 figure that was handed by Team Ireland Golf to around 9 or 10 pros this year from the likes of Moynihan, Hurley etc. That is an unacceptably low figure.

I also think another issue that needs to be addressed is that a lot of Ireland's elite amateurs are not playing enough of our top amateur events here and are not getting the exposure of regularly contending in these events. The feeling of winning a South, West of Ireland or the Mullingar Scratch Cup is of much greater importance then finishing 15th or 20th in a international tournament. Jon Rahm was a regular winner of amateur events in his college days in America and once he turned pro the rest is history.

There are no quick fix solution but those two opinions that I suggested i.e. more govt. funding for fledgling and aspiring pros and more of our elite amateurs playing more events at home could make that all important transition from the amateur game to the pro ranks much easier. Anyways best of luck to McGee, Sharvin, Moynihan and McElroy for the 108 hole, six round Q-School marathon which starts on this Saturday.

AGC

Additional funding for lads trying to step up to your level would certainly be beneficial but in the amateur game there is just a huge gulf between lads that can win top events in Ireland and lads who will never even make a cut.

The amount of falsified handicaps is out of control and IMO a massive issue that needs to be addressed. All you have to do is go through championship results and lads are missing cuts week after week and still getting into the events year on year.

Everyone can have bad weeks/spells but with the handicaps some are playing off you'd expect the odd sub par round!!

Obviously my rant will not affect the elite looking to 'make it' but it is diminishing what were great championships here. Dates events are played are also not helping.

HighLine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odxQUGDVVHo

AGC

Moynihan positioning well today at Q School

Claregaafan18

AGC wrote: »

Moynihan positioning well today at Q School

Gavin currently T-8th at the moment with the 4th round coming to an end after a bogey-free 68 (3 under) to stand at 10 under. If he finishes inside the top 10 after Thursday's sixth and final round then he will get around 22 to 25 starts on the main tour for the 2018 season. If he finishes 11th to 25th (top 25 players get their European Tour card) then he will get around 15 starts at least. If he finishes outside the top 25 then he gets conditional status which gives the Dublin man around 12 starts.

However there was disappointment for Cormac Sharvin and Dermot McElroy who have both missed the 72 hole cut. Sharvin has full status on the Challenge tour for 2018 after finishing in the top 70 of the CT rankings this year while Dermot has limited status on the same tour but has full status on the PGA Europro Tour a satellite developmental golf tour based in the UK.

Ruaidhri McGee needs to finish his fourth round with a birdie-par-par in any order to make it into the final 2 rounds. The Derry man is currently 1 under with the projected cut at 2 under.

martinkop

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Ruaidhri McGee needs to finish his fourth round with a birdie-par-par in any order to make it into the final 2 rounds. The Derry man is currently 1 under with the projected cut at 2 under.

Birdied all 3!!!! was -7 for his back 9. Some shooting under serious pressure:cool:
Phenomenal!!!

Claregaafan18

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Gavin currently T-8th at the moment with the 4th round coming to an end after a bogey-free 68 (3 under) to stand at 10 under. If he finishes inside the top 10 after Thursday's sixth and final round then he will get around 22 to 25 starts on the main tour for the 2018 season. If he finishes 11th to 25th (top 25 players get their European Tour card) then he will get around 15 starts at least. If he finishes outside the top 25 then he gets conditional status which gives the Dublin man around 12 starts.

However there was disappointment for Cormac Sharvin and Dermot McElroy who have both missed the 72 hole cut. Sharvin has full status on the Challenge tour for 2018 after finishing in the top 70 of the CT rankings this year while Dermot has limited status on the same tour but has full status on the PGA Europro Tour a satellite developmental golf tour based in the UK.

Ruaidhri McGee needs to finish his fourth round with a birdie-par-par in any order to make it into the final 2 rounds. The Derry man is currently 1 under with the projected cut at 2 under.

McGee incredibly comes home in 29 shots (7 under for his final 9 holes) to give himself a realistic opportunity of getting his European Tour card. Ruaidhri currently at 4 under with 8 under currently the projected mark to get on the European Tour for the 2018 season

Claregaafan18

Just a brief word on the status of Dermot McElroy for 2018. Dermot is guaranteed 7 invites as he is a member of Team Ireland Golf that gives out invites to some of our pros who are starting out as life as a pro. He will also get into another 5 to 7 events as he qualified for final stage of Q-School. Best of luck to Gavin Moynihan and Ruairdhri McGee though who will play in the final two rounds of European Tour Q-School with both players having every chance of getting their tour cards for 2018.

Claregaafan18

Gavin Moynihan (T-17th) and Ruaidhri McGee (T-58th) both carded 1 under par 70's to finish the penultimate round of European Tour Q-School at 11 under and 5 under respectively. Gavin will need to shoot a round in the mid 60's to finish in the top 10 that would give the Dubliner 22 to 25 starts. While Ruaidhri is 6 shots outside the projected mark of 11 under that as things stand would secure your European Tour card for 2018. The top 25 players by the end of tomorrow's final round will secure their tour cards so it is all to play for. Best of luck to both Gavin and Ruaidhri as this six round marathon comes to an conclusion.

redzerdrog

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Gavin Moynihan (T-17th) and Ruaidhri McGee (T-58th) both carded 1 under par 70's to finish the penultimate round of European Tour Q-School at 11 under and 5 under respectively. Gavin will need to shoot a round in the mid 60's to finish in the top 10 that would give the Dubliner 22 to 25 starts. While Ruaidhri is 6 shots outside the projected mark of 11 under that as things stand would secure your European Tour card for 2018. The top 25 players by the end of tomorrow's final round will secure their tour cards so it is all to play for. Best of luck to both Gavin and Ruaidhri as this six round marathon comes to an conclusion.

Thanks for the updates! Hopefully they can score well tomorrow

FixdePitchmark

To think we worry about our 40 point round and feel pressure in an average club comp.

The pressure sounds horrendous.

Nothing but admiration for guys at that level.

Claregaafan18

Very disappointing to hear Sergio Garcia being so dismissive and moody once again on an eve of a big tournament. The DP World Tour Championship is the concluding event of the end of another great season on the European Tour. However Garcia who could still win the Race 2 Dubai title sadly appears to have a "I don't give a damn" attitude. Once again it is very hard to like the grumpy Spainard with such childish comments. It is pathetic really.

benny79

what did he say?

FixdePitchmark

Is Rory playing.

Quintis

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Is Rory playing.

https://twitter.com/McIlroyRory/status/931055657767358464

AGC

Moynihan off to a flier today

It’s a birdie fest

AGC

Claregaafan18 wrote: »

Very disappointing to hear Sergio Garcia being so dismissive and moody once again on an eve of a big tournament. The DP World Tour Championship is the concluding event of the end of another great season on the European Tour. However Garcia who could still win the Race 2 Dubai title sadly appears to have a "I don't give a damn" attitude. Once again it is very hard to like the grumpy Spainard with such childish comments. It is pathetic really.

Quite a harsh post. He was asked about his chances of winning the race to Dubai and he gave an honest answer because they are very slim.

He was actually very positive about his year in general.

Claregaafan18

AGC wrote: »

Quite a harsh post. He was asked about his chances of winning the race to Dubai and he gave an honest answer because they are very slim.

He was actually very positive about his year in general.

Compare Sergio Garcia's attitude to that of Justin Rose and in particular Tommy Fleetwood in relation to the Race to Dubai glory. Of course Sergio is unlikely to win this but I feel that Garcia would not be bothered whatever way. Imagine if he was in contention for the R2D come Sunday and won it?

Winning the R2D should be one of the top list of achievements for any European player and be a springboard for future success into 2018 and beyond. I just felt he was a bit too dismissive of the situation but that is just my opinion. Paul McGinley was far from impressed with Garcia's comments on Sky this morning which I felt was very interesting for a man like Paul who would be quite friendly with most of the European guys after Europe's Ryder Cup success in 2014 where he captained brilliantly.