The Summer Transfer Thread

Fanny Biscuit

Twitter rumours Monaco to announce Falcao signing tomorrow.

rossie1977

€28m for neymar is incredibly cheap

Mars Bar

rossie1977 wrote: »

€28m for neymar is incredibly cheap

For an unproven in Europe player who still has a lot of potential to fill? Not really.

The gross inflation in the market makes it seem cheap but let's be honest, €28 million is still a huge gamble on him.

Rekop dog

rossie1977 wrote: »

€28m for neymar is incredibly cheap

Wouldn't agree, he's hasn't excelled on the big stage for Brazil yet, quite the opposite in fact, his attitude is very questionable also. Always a risk factor there whether players will adjust to the European game. All in all I think he's too dear.

Can't think of any dearer signings from South America. Would this be a record?

miralize

Mars Bar wrote: »

For an unproven in Europe player who still has a lot of potential to fill? Not really.

The gross inflation in the market makes it seem cheap but let's be honest, €28 million is still a huge gamble on him.

Not really when you consider the marketing advantages of Neymar too, along with being the brightest youngster in football. It means we can still take a chance if things dont work out.

MD1990

don't think Neymar gets enough credit for scoring as many goals as he has at 21
20 Goals in 32 already for Brasil 136 in 224 Apps for Santos
which shows he rarely gets injured too
Barca have got a good deal & an amazing prospect

Cokeistan

Rekop dog wrote: »

Wouldn't agree, he's hasn't excelled on the big stage for Brazil yet, quite the opposite in fact, his attitude is very questionable also. Always a risk factor there whether players will adjust to the European game. All in all I think he's too dear.

Can't think of any dearer signings from South America. Would this be a record?

Lucas Moura went to PSG for 40 million

AdamD

Even if it doesn't work out you'd still expect them to be able to sell him on for most of what the paid for him, like what has happened with Robinho.

Gbear

Every signing is a gamble to some extent.

Give the talent that Neymar has shown €28m is what you might call a high percentage transfer.
It's unlikely his value will drop too far below 28m and he clearly has the talent to become a €100m player.

Rekop dog

Cokeistan wrote: »

Lucas Moura went to PSG for 40 million

Ah yeah, found a list, it would be the 3rd highest after Lucas and Saviola.

Giggsy11

Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague 1h

if figures r right, FCB will pay €25m to Santos,but also 9 to agents,10 prepayment, 10 to third parties...with 1 year left in his contract!

So apart from agents they have paid 45 Million, why is it reported as 25 Million by all papers?

Cokeistan

Rekop dog wrote: »

Ah yeah, found a list, it would be the 3rd highest after Lucas and Saviola.

Is that Javier Saviola? Didnt realise he cost a lot tbh. How much was he bought for? Or better yet, if you could paste the link of the list

Rekop dog

Cokeistan wrote: »

Is that Javier Saviola? Didnt realise he cost a lot tbh. How much was he bought for? Or better yet, if you could paste the link of the list

€35 to barca in 2001.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_(association_football)#Highest_fees

MD1990

with Real having missed out
i can see them signing Cavani
but i can see them going all out to sign Bale

rossie1977

Mars Bar wrote: »

For an unproven in Europe player who still has a lot of potential to fill? Not really.

The gross inflation in the market makes it seem cheap but let's be honest, €28 million is still a huge gamble on him.

your own club signed anderson for €30m in 2007, 9 league starts for porto and never capped for brazil at the time, in comparison neymar has 20 goals in 30 games for the brazil national team

barone

Rekop dog wrote: »

€35 to barca in 2001.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_(association_football)#Highest_fees

€35 was a bit of a bargain in fairness :pac:

RasTa

Anderson never cost 30m

Headshot

RasTa wrote: »

Anderson never cost 30m

Didnt Porto accounts say other wise?

I thought i read that some where

Knex*

RasTa wrote: »

Anderson never cost 30m

I had thought around 20m myself. Just checked on transfermarkt and they have it down as 31.5m.

Sounds far too high.

Edit: Apparently at the time, the conversion rate from Euro to pounds made the €30m circa £20m (According to Wiki, that is)

Giggsy11

Headshot wrote: »

Didnt Porto accounts say other wise?

I thought i read that some where

It was 30 Million Euro, which at that time was 18Million pounds.

Equium

zerks wrote: »

Athletic Bilbao's Fernando Amorebieta and the Dnipro midfielder Derek Boateng have both joined Fulham on free transfers.

Surely he could have done better for himself?

Seaneh

Rekop dog wrote: »

€35 to barca in 2001.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_(association_football)#Highest_fees

Pretty sure that list is wrong and Savlioa cost closer to about €15million.

RasTa

Giggsy11 wrote: »

It was 30 Million Euro, which at that time was 18Million pounds.

Pound was never that strong

dfx-

THFC wrote: »

....And Barca continue to splash on an area of the squad that doesn't need improving.

It's the area of the squad that needs improving the most.

Mikeyt086

rossie1977 wrote: »

your own club signed anderson for €30m in 2007, 9 league starts for porto and never capped for brazil at the time, in comparison neymar has 20 goals in 30 games for the brazil national team

And that was a gamble. I don't see how Manchester United overpaying for Anderson discredits the argument that Neymar is a gamble. I doubt Mars Bar had anything to do with the deal.

Mars Bar

rossie1977 wrote: »

your own club signed anderson for €30m in 2007, 9 league starts for porto and never capped for brazil at the time, in comparison neymar has 20 goals in 30 games for the brazil national team

Don't really know why you're brining Ando in to it if you want an argument from me.
We paid over the odds for him and he hasn't fulfilled the potential he was bought for.

Neymar is being bought for potential. Potential is always a gamble.

Amirani

Every transfer is a game. Neymar is less of a gamble than most because of his obvious ability.

swoody

http://dailymilan.com/pato-to-make-a-milan-return-in-the-summer/

Talib Fiasco

Lewandowski set for Bayern according to Heynkces...surely Gomez will leave if that'll happen?

Moneymaker

Neymar announces he will make move to Barcelona official on Monday.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/26/neymar-barcelona-santos-move

klose

TheComeUp wrote: »

Lewandowski set for Bayern according to Heynkces...surely Gomez will leave if that'll happen?

Id assume him and robben will be out the door fairly lively, mandzucik will proabably be second choice to goetze if he trys him as a false 9. Will be a busy summer for munich no doubt.

Red Crow

klose wrote: »

Id assume him and robben will be out the door fairly lively, mandzucik will proabably be second choice to goetze if he trys him as a false 9. Will be a busy summer for munich no doubt.

I'd say Muller and Kroos are more at risk with Bayern signing Gotze.

Don't see why Bayern would sell Robben as he is their best player IMO.

JPA

Eli Manning wrote: »

I'd say Muller and Kroos are more at risk with Bayern signing Gotze.

Don't see why Bayern would sell Robben as he is their best player IMO.

So not a Guardiola player though, all that wasted possession and chances...

Neymar will be an interesting one at Barca.

klose

Eli Manning wrote: »

I'd say Muller and Kroos are more at risk with Bayern signing Gotze.

Don't see why Bayern would sell Robben as he is their best player IMO.

Dosent muller play wide right with kroos behind the striker normally? I think selling kroos or muller would be madness, both still young and very talented, think hell flog robben myself, dont think hes their best player but when his head is screwed on him his nearly unplayable.

keane2097

Eli Manning wrote: »

I'd say Muller and Kroos are more at risk with Bayern signing Gotze.

Don't see why Bayern would sell Robben as he is their best player IMO.

He's a sub.

swoody

i read somewhere a few weeks back that Manchester City are weighing up a move for Robben. £12M i think was the rumoured amount

wandatowell

http://www.independent.ie/sport/falcao-on-the-verge-of-60milliom-move-to-monaco-29297801.html


Falcao to Monaco

Follow the money kid

carlop

wandatowell wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/sport/falcao-on-the-verge-of-60milliom-move-to-monaco-29297801.html


Falcao to Monaco

Follow the money kid

Not quite that black and white with Falcao. Monaco bid more than anybody else did so Atleti accepted their offer. Atleti want him to go, although they won't say this publicly, so he's going to go.

Headshot

It's disappointing to see him going to a poor enough league and not playing for one of the big clubs.

I'd like to know how Monaco will get around UEFA FFP

hufpc8w3adnk65

Headshot wrote: »

I'd like to know how Monaco will get around UEFA FFP

Michelle Platini!

hefferboi

Eli Manning wrote: »

I'd say Muller and Kroos are more at risk with Bayern signing Gotze.

Don't see why Bayern would sell Robben as he is their best player IMO.

I doubt they'd let Muller go he's been one of the players of the season for them.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Why does big, bad Financial Fair Play Play get mentioned so much on forums when the French buy players, but if City/Chelsea buy it is barely mentioned and it's all 'great for the Prem' etc. Jealousy?

Professional Griefer

French sides wouldn't earn nearly as much as EPL sides from tv and stuff. But I may be wrong.

Mitch Connor

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Why does big, bad Financial Fair Play Play get mentioned so much on forums when the French buy players, but if City/Chelsea buy it is barely mentioned and it's all 'great for the Prem' etc. Jealousy?

1. The revenue generated by PSG and Monaco aren't anywhere close to the PL sides, so spending far more and wages and transfer fees is more of an issue.
2. It is mentioned with regards to the PL sides, Chelsea and City mainly - it is mentioned quite a lot.

homerjay2005

Lewandoski to Bayern confirmed just now on Polish tv according to his agent, though he appears to be a right trouble maker as the player himself said yesterday that he didnt know.

AnCapaillMor

Headshot wrote: »

It's disappointing to see him going to a poor enough league and not playing for one of the big clubs.

I'd like to know how Monaco will get around UEFA FFP

Wages, a interesting article i found a few weeks ago on the guardian. The zlatan comparison bit is interesting.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/02/monaco-paris-saint-germain-ligue-1?INTCMP=SRCH

homerjay2005

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Why does big, bad Financial Fair Play Play get mentioned so much on forums when the French buy players, but if City/Chelsea buy it is barely mentioned and it's all 'great for the Prem' etc. Jealousy?

its constantly being mentioned and as already pointed out, the revenues of the prem teams are huge, so SOME of the money is their own and they have SOME chance of getting it back towards profitibility.

the latest burst of signings from Monaco just show this FPP will never come in. its a joke set up.

Chucky the tree

homerjay2005 wrote: »

its constantly being mentioned and as already pointed out, the revenues of the prem teams are huge, so SOME of the money is their own and they have SOME chance of getting it back towards profitibility.

the latest burst of signings from Monaco just show this FPP will never come in. its a joke set up.

How does it show that?

wandatowell

Headshot wrote: »

It's disappointing to see him going to a poor enough league and not playing for one of the big clubs.

I'd like to know how Monaco will get around UEFA FFP

Seems like Arsenal are the only club concerned with the FFP