The Summer Transfer Thread

Mitch Connor

wandatowell wrote: »

Seems like Arsenal are the only club concerned with the FFP

United are too - VERY much so.

My personal opinion is that David Gill stepping down as United CEO and his election with Uefa (with a play for a Fifa role seemingly planned for 2015) has been done as part of United's plan/hope for FFP to be enforced - I reckon Gill will be very vocal on getting FFP in place, and working.

wandatowell

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

Wages, a interesting article i found a few weeks ago on the guardian. The zlatan comparison bit is interesting.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/02/monaco-paris-saint-germain-ligue-1?INTCMP=SRCH

WOW! €30million a year in wages for Zlat, (obviously not his take home pay but still thats nuts!)

He costs them more for a season than Arsenals record transfer fee paid!




Here's a few more exclamation marks for show my outrage *!!!!!!!!*

wandatowell

Mitch Connor wrote: »

United are too - VERY much so.

My personal opinion is that David Gill stepping down as United CEO and his election with Uefa (with a play for a Fifa role seemingly planned for 2015) has been done as part of United's plan/hope for FFP to be enforced - I reckon Gill will be very vocal on getting FFP in place, and working.

I had no idea United were that proactive. I figure they made so much money that the rules wouldn't make much of difference to how the club was run.

Justin10

wandatowell wrote: »

I had no idea United were that proactive. I figure they made so much money that the rules wouldn't make much of difference to how the club was run.

Its in Uniteds best interests because they make so much revenue.

Seaneh

Headshot wrote: »

It's disappointing to see him going to a poor enough league and not playing for one of the big clubs.

I'd like to know how Monaco will get around UEFA FFP

The same way City, Chelsea, PSG, Barca, Real, Zenith, CAKA, Spartak and so on will.

FutureGuy

Seaneh wrote: »

The same way City, Chelsea, PSG, Barca, Real, Zenith, CAKA, Spartak and so on will.

Moar lawyers.
Moar accountants.

Rekop dog

Headshot wrote: »

It's disappointing to see him going to a poor enough league and not playing for one of the big clubs.

I'd like to know how Monaco will get around UEFA FFP

They've more European pedigree than say a Man City, don't know if they fit in your criteria of a big club? He'd want to have been an idiot to turn this offer down.

AnCapaillMor

Zenith was the best, gazprom become one of the CL biggest sponsors, then a week or 2 later Zenith splurge 60 odd million on hulk and witsel.

Seaneh

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

Wages, a interesting article i found a few weeks ago on the guardian. The zlatan comparison bit is interesting.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/02/monaco-paris-saint-germain-ligue-1?INTCMP=SRCH

According to this article Monaco would somehow be able to pay less than his net take home to match his wages.

wat?

Zlatan is paid €12-14million NET. Also It seems that this article is basing the wage thing on the proposed 75% wealth tax, which hasn't happened and won't be happening. All in all, 2 out of 5, shoddy research.

s_carnage

Rekop dog wrote: »

They've more European pedigree than say a Man City, don't know if they fit in your criteria of a big club? He'd want to have been an idiot to turn this offer down.

Somehow I don't think he has as much of a say where he goes than a regular player. I'd imagine it's mainly down to his third party owners and who can give them the biggest return on investment possible and at the moment it looks like it's Monaco.

Also read somewhere because of the TPO and the PL banning deals taking pace with such owners he wouldn't be able to be transferred directly to say Chelsea or City. They would need a club to act as a middle man and buy out the TPO first.

homerjay2005

Rekop dog wrote: »

They've more European pedigree than say a Man City, don't know if they fit in your criteria of a big club? He'd want to have been an idiot to turn this offer down.

like RVP and Gotze for example?

playing for a club like Monaco makes him an idiot IMO, very little fans, no CL football, all he is getting is money and a tan.

where is his ambition to win a major league and possibly a CL?

Seaneh

FutureGuy wrote: »

Moar lawyers.
Moar accountants.

Exactly.

With the likes of Chelsea or City you will just see their owners companies paying insane money for jersey sponsorship or pitch side advertising or stadia naming rights or whatever else they can think up to get around the rules.

OctavarIan

homerjay2005 wrote: »

like RVP and Gotze for example?

playing for a club like Monaco makes him an idiot IMO, very little fans, no CL football, all he is getting is money and a tan.

where is his ambition to win a major league and possibly a CL?

There was a good article on Falcao, I'll see if I can track it down. Basically he had no choice in where he could transfer to because of the money his owners needed to make on him.

As for Moutinho etc, he's as much chance of winning something with Monaco as he does with Porto, with the added bonus of trucks of money and a much better location.

Seaneh

homerjay2005 wrote: »

like RVP and Gotze for example?

playing for a club like Monaco makes him an idiot IMO, very little fans, no CL football, all he is getting is money and a tan.

where is his ambition to win a major league and possibly a CL?

They will challenge for the leave next season, the season after that they will be in the CL.

He has a far better chance of a CL at Monaco in the next 3/4 years than he had at Atleti.

He's being offered obnoxious amounts of money to live on the riviera and play football. Anyone who says he's stupid to accept it is either deluded or jealous, simples.


Madrid is nice but I'd much rather live in Monaco if I could afford it.

Rekop dog

homerjay2005 wrote: »

like RVP and Gotze for example?

playing for a club like Monaco makes him an idiot IMO, very little fans, no CL football, all he is getting is money and a tan.

where is his ambition to win a major league and possibly a CL?

Money is the biggest incentive for any player, don't fool yourself about that, throw in the attraction of living in one of the sexiest areas in Europe and it makes it a no brainer. CL football will sort itself out very soon with the money they're spending.

carlop

homerjay2005 wrote: »

like RVP and Gotze for example?

playing for a club like Monaco makes him an idiot IMO, very little fans, no CL football, all he is getting is money and a tan.

where is his ambition to win a major league and possibly a CL?

Firstly I don't think Falcao really wanted to leave Atletico.

http://www.marca.com/2013/05/26/futbol/equipos/atletico/1369604291.html?a=PR38818456e844744cea95530dc174f18b3&t=1369655280

Breaking down in tears and climbing into the stands to salute the ultras an hour after full-time aren't the actions of a man desperate to leave to make billions in Monaco.

Secondly, at Atletico he's on 3.5 million a year, only 1 million more than the likes of Emre. The board don't really want him to stay but can't come out and state this publicly, so they've made some fairly paltry offers to him that he could not in all seriousness accept.

Thirdly, no other team has matched his buyout clause. Monaco have done so, and the club and his 'advisers' want him to accept it. He doesn't know if anybody else will come in with as big an offer and I genuinely think that he has a place for Atletico in his heart and isn't willing to refuse to go and force the club into accepting a smaller bid.

Fourthly, what's to say that Monaco won't be competing for the CL within two or three years? They are putting together a fearsome squad which should be very capable of getting a top 3 finish in France. After that there's no telling how far they can go.

Finally, who doesn't like money and a tan?

Gbear

Seaneh wrote: »

Zlatan is paid €12-14million NET. Also It seems that this article is basing the wage thing on the proposed 75% wealth tax, which hasn't happened and won't be happening. All in all, 2 out of 5, shoddy research.

Even without the 75% rate tax it's still the difference between 50-60% tax and 0% tax in Monaco.

dahat

Not totally sure how much input Falcao himself had on where he went,third party ownership had alot invested in him so they had to be looked after in any deal.
Hard to see any club paying 3 parties for a players registration rights..Falcao,3rd party and Athletico......

SureYWouldntYa

I like how a lot of the tabloids are saying he's going to Monaco "for the money".

So if he joined City or Chelsea and won everything in sight wouldn't he be on the same money ? Instead he's going to a club rebuilding itself, however its being financed Falcao is making a brave decision going to Monaco

Seaneh

Gbear wrote: »

Even without the 75% rate tax it's still the difference between 50-60% tax and 0% tax in Monaco.

yeah but according to that article Monaco would have been able to pay €9million a match his take home. that is obviously wrong.

swoody

Coentrao will be shown the door at Madrid this summer after admitted that he has feels unwanted. wouldnt be surprised if he ended up at Monaco since his agent Jorge Mendes has already sold them Falcao, James Rodriguez and Moutinho

GavRedKing

swoody wrote: »

Coentrao will be shown the door at Madrid this summer after admitted that he has feels unwanted. wouldnt be surprised if he ended up at Monaco since his agent Jorge Mendes has already sold them Falcao, James Rodriguez and Moutinho

I'd take him at Chelsea in a heart beat, Cole doesnt have long left at the top and considering he only signed a 1 yr extension a few months ago I'd rather Coentrao then Bertrand in the near future although Shaw is potentially the best long term option and hes a Chelsea fane could sway it on our direction.

Although in Shaw's case I'd rather see hm at Southampton for another season at least, geting constant games to improve himeself.

Cantona's Collars

Transfer News Live ‏@DeadlineDayLive 12m
Barcelona goalkeeper Victor Valdés is expected to sign a contract at AS Monaco within the next 48 hours. (Source: Telefoot)

swoody

Arshavin to join Khazar Lankaran in Azerbaijan and earn 2M a month, that will make him the higest paid player in the world

swoody

Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis annouced via Twitter that Rafael Benitez would be the new coach of the Serie A club.



https://twitter.com/ADeLaurentiis/status/339095640736931842

MD1990

swoody wrote: »

Coentrao will be shown the door at Madrid this summer after admitted that he has feels unwanted. wouldnt be surprised if he ended up at Monaco since his agent Jorge Mendes has already sold them Falcao, James Rodriguez and Moutinho

interesting
maybe Nani or Anderson might go there too if there not wanted at Man U
Carvalho is joining Monaco too another Mendes player

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

swoody wrote: »

Arshavin to join Khazar Lankaran in Azerbaijan and earn 2M a month, that will make him the higest paid player in the world

Hardly true??

CSF

swoody wrote: »

Arshavin to join Khazar Lankaran in Azerbaijan and earn 2M a month, that will make him the higest paid player in the world

Jesus, what the **** happened to football.

Ulysses Gaze

swoody wrote: »

Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis annouced via Twitter that Rafael Benitez would be the new coach of the Serie A club.



https://twitter.com/ADeLaurentiis/status/339095640736931842

Shrewd by De Laurentiis. Benitez is a great tactician and Napoli should have money to spend this summer.

He'll tighten them up at the back but will really need a top quality striker when Cavani leaves.

swoody

swoody wrote: »

Arshavin to join Khazar Lankaran in Azerbaijan and earn 2M a month, that will make him the higest paid player in the world

Zimbabwean dollars I presume

marno21

From a quick twitter search, the Arshavin source is this : http://sport.rbc.ru/football/newsline/01/04/2013/386109.shtml

Translate it away, but first look at the date: 01/04/2013

April fools

klose

marno21 wrote: »

From a quick twitter search, the Arshavin source is this : http://sport.rbc.ru/football/newsline/01/04/2013/386109.shtml

Translate it away, but first look at the date: 01/04/2013

April fools

Going by his twitter hes definately off so i guess thats where it stemmed from. I remeber seeing a rumour a while ago he was considering retirement :pac:

Didnt rivaldo play in azerbaijan in his twilight years?

Ulysses Gaze

klose wrote: »

Going by his twitter hes definately off so i guess thats where it stemmed from. I remeber seeing a rumour a while ago he was considering retirement :pac:

Didnt rivaldo play in azerbaijan in his twilight years?

Uzbekistan. Made a mint as well.

Played for Bunyodkor who are owned by Uzbekistans "Benevolent" Dictator Islom Karimov.

They tried to sign Eto'o a few years back.

Paully D

Sunderland have signed Cabral on a free transfer from Basel, 4 year deal. Can't say I know much about him at all, anyone here familiar with him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adilson_Tavares_Varela

http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/cabral/leistungsdaten/spieler_33046.html

KERSPLAT!

Martinez leaves Wigan, Everton enquired about him on Friday

Cantona's Collars

AS reporting that Falcao has signed a 5 year deal with Monaco.

gnfnrhead

klose wrote: »

Going by his twitter hes definately off so i guess thats where it stemmed from.

He is out of contract and there is no hope of him getting a new one. Fulham were supposed to be interested for some reason.

Francie Barrett

zerks wrote: »

AS reporting that Falcao has signed a 5 year deal with Monaco.

Just when you think football can't get anymore stupid.

Falcao is a great player, no doubt, but the Russian lad who owns Monaco is an idiot. He will never make his money back on this.

CSF

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Just when you think football can't get anymore stupid.

Falcao is a great player, no doubt, but the Russian lad who owns Monaco is an idiot. He will never make his money back on this.

Has that been confirmed as his objective though?

Rubber_Soul

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Just when you think football can't get anymore stupid.

Falcao is a great player, no doubt, but the Russian lad who owns Monaco is an idiot. He will never make his money back on this.

What makes you think he ever intended to?

yohan the great

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Just when you think football can't get anymore stupid.

Falcao is a great player, no doubt, but the Russian lad who owns Monaco is an idiot. He will never make his money back on this.

But he will win things. You don't buy players at Falcao's age to make a profit you do it to win things like van Persie at man united

Rubber_Soul

yohan the great wrote: »

But he will win things. You don't buy players at Falcao's age to make a profit you do it to win things like van Persie at man united

It also makes it easier to attract other star players to the project if you have one already on board.

Copper_pipe

Liverpool agree deal for Kolo Toure

Jax Teller

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Just when you think football can't get anymore stupid.

Falcao is a great player, no doubt, but the Russian lad who owns Monaco is an idiot. He will never make his money back on this.

He won't care . He's worth 9 billion this just a hobby for him I would imagine .

Seaneh

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Just when you think football can't get anymore stupid.

Falcao is a great player, no doubt, but the Russian lad who owns Monaco is an idiot. He will never make his money back on this.

As opposed to the lads at city, chelsea, psg, milan, inter, and so on? they are all raking it in are they?

He's spending money on his play thing.

beer enigma

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Liverpool agree deal for Kolo Toure

Got him on a free...could be a good move for both

Paully D

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Just when you think football can't get anymore stupid.

Falcao is a great player, no doubt, but the Russian lad who owns Monaco is an idiot. He will never make his money back on this.

You don't buy a football club to make money. It's a sign of prestige and a hobby for owners.

Blatter

It's literally a real life version of football manager.

What's the big deal.

He's joining a team that will be pushing for the league next season and should be in the CL the following year.

The money is nuts but it's peanuts to the owner of Monaco, pocket change.

Red Crow

At least PSG have some competition. Marseille must be sick!