The Summer Transfer Thread

CSF

Dempsey wrote: »

I said going to Southampton would be a backward step for a player of his calibre, that is true. And he knocked back Southamptons final offer 2 weeks ago. He wont be going there.

I think it isn't enough of a step forward myself but I wouldn't call it a step backward at all. Wanyama deserves a top 10 club or a club like Villa who are underachieving based on size by not being in top 10.

GTR63

Dempsey wrote: »

I said going to Southampton would be a backward step for a player of his calibre and that is a fact. And he knocked back Southamptons final offer 2 weeks ago. He wont be going there.

I agree with you if he goes to an Everton, Arsenal or Liverpool I could understand but Cardiff or Southampton ain't a step up despite how much dosh the latter are waving about lately.

ben.schlomo

Hes agreed a deal with Cardiff hasnt he.

Oranage2

GTR63 wrote: »

I agree with you if he goes to an Everton, Arsenal or Liverpool I could understand but Cardiff or Southampton ain't a step up despite how much dosh the latter are waving about lately.

Southampton or cardiff might not be at the level of Celtic but the opposition he'll face will be a million times better than what he'll face in Scotland.

GavRedKing

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Hes agreed a deal with Cardiff hasnt he.

I dont think so anyway.

Oranage2 wrote: »

Southampton or cardiff might not be at the level of Celtic but the opposition he'll face will be a million times better than what he'll face in Scotland.

Slight exaggeration. :pac:

greendom

Oranage2 wrote: »

Southampton or cardiff might not be at the level of Celtic but the opposition he'll face will be a million times better than what he'll face in Scotland.

How far off would you think Southampton and Cardiff are to Celtic. I'd imagine they wouldn't be that far apart. I'd say they'd be challenging for the SPL if they moved up there.

GavRedKing

greendom wrote: »

How far off would you think Southampton and Cardiff are to Celtic. I'd imagine they wouldn't be that far apart. I'd say they'd be challenging for the SPL if they moved up there.

I reckon if both went to the SPL theyed push Celtic but on the flip side of that, if Celtic were in the EPL I'd expect them to do better then both of the above.

Augmerson

Seaneh wrote: »

Fairly obvious when you watch him play enough that he has fantastic ball control.

I admire McGeady but I don't know really what level the Russian league is. He hasn't done as well this season it seems, only 17 appearances.....wait, has Russia a summer league or was he injured? *scratches head*

Dempsey

greendom wrote: »

How far off would you think Southampton and Cardiff are to Celtic. I'd imagine they wouldn't be that far apart. I'd say they'd be challenging for the SPL if they moved up there.

You're imagining those clubs in the SPL with EPL income or working off the income that SPL clubs get?

GavRedKing

Dempsey wrote: »

You're imagining those clubs in the SPL with EPL income or working off the income that SPL clubs get?

If Soputhampton/Cardiff were lifted to the SPL with their current squads theyed run Celtic close but then the financial aspect would kill them and theyed lose alot of the players in the 2nd & 3rd seasons and eventually struggle to compete.

On the reverse of that, if Celtic came south theyed get more money and attract better players to build a squad and would then outperform Southmapton/Cardiff IMO.

All fantasy football guessing though.

Jax Teller

How much money do Celtic make a season ? Would playing in the EPL make up for not playing in CL money wise ?

Dempsey

Jax Teller wrote: »

How much money do Celtic make a season ? Would playing in the EPL make up for not playing in CL money wise ?

Ballpark figures

Without UCL £55m p/a
With UCL £75m p/a

Seaneh

Jax Teller wrote: »

How much money do Celtic make a season ? Would playing in the EPL make up for not playing in CL money wise ?

TV revenue from the EPL is several times the money celtic would get from appearing in the group stages of the CL.

That's why clubs like Swansea and Southhampton can outbid almost every club in Spain, France, Italy or Germany.

Dempsey

GavRedKing wrote: »

If Soputhampton/Cardiff were lifted to the SPL with their current squads theyed run Celtic close but then the financial aspect would kill them and theyed lose alot of the players in the 2nd & 3rd seasons and eventually struggle to compete.

On the reverse of that, if Celtic came south theyed get more money and attract better players to build a squad and would then outperform Southmapton/Cardiff IMO.

All fantasy football guessing though.

I'd agree with that, those clubs would be shedding players quicker that that though. Celtic could double turnover immediately in the EPL, they could push for top 6 straight away if they bought aswell as they have been doing.

GavRedKing

I think there turnover was really helped by UCL football last year, they were up nearly 15Million for the 2nd half of 2012.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21414575

swoody

Mitch Connor

swoody wrote: »

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z6UwlKcpJUU/UcmjDGeGe5I/AAAAAAAATqg/1GqtYRi447o/s600-no/BNnDiFvCMAAR5iD.jpg

load up on the Airplane jokes!

Surely he was offside?
What, he's not even on the pitch!

GavRedKing

Excited by Schurrle.

I wouldnt be surprised if we lined up next season with him wide left.

Hazard----Mata----Schurrle

Seaneh

GavRedKing wrote: »

Excited by Schurrle.

I wouldnt be surprised if we lined up next season with him wide left.

Hazard----Mata----Schurrle

That with Oscar and Ramires playing in central mid positions is pretty exciting.

GavRedKing

Seaneh wrote: »

That with Oscar and Ramires playing in central mid positions is pretty exciting.

I dunno will Jose do that though, now I cant see him rotating as much as Rafa as he'll have a bigger and better squad to work with then Rafa, but I'm still unsure if he'll deploy Oscar as the deep lying playmaker, I reckon Oscar has got it in him but it would need Ramires to be a bit more disciplined then he already is and we'd have to bolster the CB's as our current options arent the best truth be told.

As ya mentioned, its going to very attack minded anyway, we could easily line up

Cech
Azp Luiz JT Cole
Oscar Ramries
Hazard Mata Schurrle
Lukaku

A few questions remain over the CB's and Ivanovic could easily start at RB and if we sign Cavani I'd be surprised if he didnt start the season.

EdenHazard

Dempsey wrote: »

You're imagining those clubs in the SPL with EPL income or working off the income that SPL clubs get?

That's not the issue though. Southampton are a better prospect than Celtic player wise. Celtic would push Southampton and could beat them, but if I was given a choice of players to work with it would be Southamptons.

Dr_Brian_Cocks

GavRedKing wrote: »

I dunno will Jose do that though, now I cant see him rotating as much as Rafa as he'll have a bigger and better squad to work with then Rafa, but I'm still unsure if he'll deploy Oscar as the deep lying playmaker, I reckon Oscar has got it in him but it would need Ramires to be a bit more disciplined then he already is and we'd have to bolster the CB's as our current options arent the best truth be told.

As ya mentioned, its going to very attack minded anyway, we could easily line up

Cech
Azp Luiz JT Cole
Oscar Ramries
Hazard Mata Schurrle
Lukaku

A few questions remain over the CB's and Ivanovic could easily start at RB and if we sign Cavani I'd be surprised if he didnt start the season.

Essien? He has seen what Essien is capable of because of last season too.

Dempsey

EdenHazard wrote: »

That's not the issue though. Southampton are a better prospect than Celtic player wise. Celtic would push Southampton and could beat them, but if I was given a choice of players to work with it would be Southamptons.

It was a question to a hypothetical scenario:rolleyes:

Nonsence, Celtic would beat Southampton comfortably and Celtic have a better squad of players

Leiva

Mignolet done and dusted for LFC.

WallyGUFC

Dempsey wrote: »

It was a question to a hypothetical scenario:rolleyes:

Nonsence, Celtic would beat Southampton comfortably and Celtic have a better squad of players

I don't know about that now. You get better by playing the best. in Southampton's case. They play good football under Pochetino and could conceivably be top ten next season. There's only so far Celtic can go playing in such an atrocious league. However with their fanbase, if they ever went to the EPL, they could become successful very quickly if they bought well.

GavRedKing

Dr_Brian_Cocks wrote: »

Essien? He has seen what Essien is capable of because of last season too.

Essine, at RB or CM? I think we've better options in both positions then to be relying on a Essien IMO.

Dr_Brian_Cocks

GavRedKing wrote: »

Essine, at RB or CM? I think we've better options in both positions then to be relying on a Essien IMO.

Not think he can make his way back to the way he was?

T-b0n3

Has anything posted recently been transfer related or is this the Chelsea or Celtic super thread?

GavRedKing

Dr_Brian_Cocks wrote: »

Not think he can make his way back to the way he was?

Nah cant see it happening at all really.

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Has anything posted recently been transfer related or is this the Chelsea or Celtic super thread?

Well we were discussing Wanyama moving and how it would be either a step up or step down depends on what you reckon.

Then Schurrle was confirmed by Chelsea and another person has added Mignolet is done and joining Liverpool.

Cant see the problem there TBH.

EdenHazard

Dempsey wrote: »

It was a question to a hypothetical scenario:rolleyes:

Nonsence, Celtic would beat Southampton comfortably and Celtic have a better squad of players

Just no.

CSF

EdenHazard wrote: »

Just no.

Yeah I would also have southampton to edge it

ben.schlomo

GavRedKing wrote: »

Nah cant see it happening at all really.



Well we were discussing Wanyama moving and how it would be either a step up or step down depends on what you reckon.

Then Schurrle was confirmed by Chelsea and another person has added Mignolet is done and joining Liverpool.

Cant see the problem there TBH.

I can see peoples frustrations with this thread, every other day its a bitchfest between rival supporters etc, i think a thread of discussing transfers and a thread for confirmed transfers only would be much better. Just my two cents.

Liam O

ben.schlomo wrote: »

I can see peoples frustrations with this thread, every other day its a bitchfest between rival supporters etc, i think a thread of discussing transfers and a thread for confirmed transfers only would be much better. Just my two cents.

Yeah the great Celtic and Southampton rivalry, transfer impacts is a viable discussion.

A no discussion transfer thread would be like watching paint dry, sure the best part of transfers is the speculation :P.

tupac_healy

Any more developments at OT? Still have the fingers (& toes!!!) crossed for Thiago!

MD1990

Tevez joining Juventus for 12m apparently

Quazzie

MD1990 wrote: »

Tevez joining Juventus for 12m apparently

Woohoo. That makes Higuian to Arsenal a near certainty.

yabadabado

MD1990 wrote: »

Tevez joining Juventus for 12m apparently

That a bargain,great bit of business.

Donnielighto

yabadabado wrote: »

That a bargain,great bit of business.

Great to have on your team, terrible to have at your club.

miralize

Donnielighto wrote: »

Great to have on your team, terrible to have at your club.

Besides his city mishap, has he acted out anywhere else? Up until the summer when he moved to city he was pretty professional no?

Donnielighto

Donnielighto wrote: »

Great to have on your team, terrible to have at your club.

Nonsense. He's a class player.

Felexicon

rarnes1 wrote: »

Nonsense. He's a class player.

And for 12m he is a steal. Always liked him at United and now I can root for him again

Donnielighto

he was pretty disruptive at utd. Classless and crass.

token101

rarnes1 wrote: »

Nonsense. He's a class player.

He is until he gets a bit pissed off and ****s off back to Argentina for a few months.

Donnielighto

rarnes1 wrote: »

Nonsense. He's a class player.

I didnt say he wasnt

Dr_Brian_Cocks

10m I've seen. Maybe thats 12m euro.

swoody

miralize wrote: »

Besides his city mishap, has he acted out anywhere else? Up until the summer when he moved to city he was pretty professional no?

he wore the united kit at a Corinthians news conference back in 2005

they promptly fined him.

The_Kew_Tour

RIP Tevez ;-)

klose

Mignolet to lfc for 9m

yabadabado

Whats going to happen to Reina now?Anyone in for him,cant see him staying as no. 2 and if he aint playing can see him losing his place in the spain squad.

tupac_healy

swoody wrote: »

he wore the united kit at a Corinthians news conference back in 2005

they promptly fined him.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

RIP Tevez ;-)

Seems to be quite the controversial player actually :pac:

Couple the above with the occasional game of golf instead of training and the fact that he is nothing more than a MERC with NO loyalty, I'd have to agree that he is pretty disruptive to have around your club....


Gotta say fair play to Fergie for spotting it when 99% of the Utd fans were singing 'Fergie, Fergie sign him up'


Suppose the fans are not always right