The Summer Transfer Thread

Dempsey

amiable wrote: »

Pretty damning statement to make with nothing to back it up and based mostly on your dislike for the man in my opinion.

I've nothing personal against McLaren, just he's failed far more than he's succeeded and he's had some spectacular failures

Blatter wrote: »

So any manager that fails with his national team will lose all the respect of every player from that country in future jobs?

Complete rubbish tbh.

Drop the strawman argument, I didnt make any generalization.

You should review his tenure as England Manager again.

Liam McPoyle

Aye,sure QPR is chock full of England internationals.

Good appointment IMO,for both parties.

Dempsey

Coleman Slawski wrote: »

Aye,sure QPR is chock full of England internationals.

Good appointment IMO,for both parties.

Nope but you can be sure that their English players were watching the games.

amiable

Dempsey wrote: »

I've nothing personal against McLaren, just he's failed far more than he's succeeded and he's had some spectacular failures



Drop the strawman argument, I didnt make any generalization.

You should review his tenure as England Manager again.

Derby County he was a success.
Man United he was a success.
Middlesbrough he was a success.
Twente he was a success in his first stint.

England he failed.
Wolfsburg he failed.
Twente he failed.

He took over Nottingham Forest at a weird time but if you want to call that a failure that's up to you.

The above doesn't show that his failures far outweigh the successes IMO.

Blatter

Dempsey wrote: »

I've nothing personal against McLaren, just he's failed far more than he's succeeded and he's had some spectacular failures



Drop the strawman argument, I didnt make any generalization.

You should review his tenure as England Manager again.

I would say the following is quite the generalization:

Dempsey wrote: »

I dont think he has the respect of any english player after his England stint tbh

DenMan

For McClaren personally I think it's worrying that not many clubs are interested in him as a manager. Working under Harry as a coach I hope helps him get back into a big managerial position in the near future. When he left Man Utd years ago he should have excelled as a manager and even now should be managing them. Time will tell how he gets on. Best of luck to him.

Kiwi_knock

His failures are more recent though, but it all depends on what QPR players think of Redknapp. If they back Redknapp they will back this appointment but if they are still not on board with Redknapp they might oppose it.

Plus when you lose out to Owen Coyle for a job it is not a great sign.

Dempsey

Blatter wrote: »

I would say the following is quite the generalization:

Deflecting, I didnt say what you claimed I said.

His most high profile job was a spectacular failure, it was in charge of his country's national team and you think thats all forgotten about now? All his failures since then, forgotten about?

Mitch Connor

Plenty of great coaches make poor enough managers.

Kidd, Queiroz and McClaren are three examples of highly respected coaches that didn't make the change to great managers - it doesn't devalue their ability to coach; just shows they aren't cut out for the extra work required as a manager.

I think McClaren is an excellent appointment.

Copper_pipe

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 17s
Sky sources: Liverpool accept £6m bid from Swansea for Jonjo Shelvey #SSN

eagle eye

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 17s
Sky sources: Liverpool accept £6m bid from Swansea for Jonjo Shelvey #SSN

Wow, this really surprises me. I can't believe Liverpool would sell him and so cheaply too. This guy is going to be top class imo. Bargain buy for Swansea, only 21 now.

mike65

eagle eye wrote: »

Wow, this really surprises me. I can't believe Liverpool would sell him and so cheaply too. This guy is going to be top class imo. Bargain buy for Swansea, only 21 now.

*turns up satire/sarcasm detector to 11*

In other news PSG are going big for Cavani.

Xavi6

eagle eye wrote: »

Wow, this really surprises me. I can't believe Liverpool would sell him and so cheaply too. This guy is going to be top class imo. Bargain buy for Swansea, only 21 now.

inforfun

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 17s
Sky sources: Liverpool accept £6m bid from Swansea for Jonjo Shelvey #SSN

Awwww. Swansea were doing so well with their transfers.

MagicIRL

eagle eye wrote: »

Wow, this really surprises me. I can't believe Liverpool would sell him and so cheaply too. This guy is going to be top class imo. Bargain buy for Swansea, only 21 now.

You can't be serious. The lad isn't even worth 6 mill.

homerjay2005

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 17s
Sky sources: Liverpool accept £6m bid from Swansea for Jonjo Shelvey #SSN

thats an incredible bit of business for Liverpool, the lad isnt worth 600,000.

eagle eye

homerjay2005 wrote: »

thats an incredible bit of business for Liverpool, the lad isnt worth 600,000.

The only one I can really quote. We'll see in time but I think he is going to be a fantastic player.

Super-Rush

gustavo

Dave McMillan signs for Sligo Rovers untill the end of the season

swoody

Tottenham are in talks with Besiktas over the possible transfer of Adebayor to Turkey for €5M

Oat23

Jonjo Shelvey costs more than Adam Maher.

amiable

swoody wrote: »

Tottenham are in talks with Besiktas over the possible transfer of Adebayor to Turkey for €5M

Daniel Levy is a genius

Red Crow

amiable wrote: »

Daniel Levy is a genius

Hyperbole

everdead.ie

Can't find the source for this quote so take a pinch of salt with it

Perez: 'Levy, the English clubs president, is not open to negotiation, and faced with such inflexibility an agreement is not viable' #Bale

Also re Ade while he didn't score enough last season he was still extremely important in our overall play needs to be replaced with a better player if he's sold.

LuckyLloyd

McClaren is an excellent appointment to a coaching staff. Wealth of experience and his ability to COACH and drill into the details on the training pitch have always been well regarded.

Pudders

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

McClaren is an excellent appointment to a coaching staff. Wealth of experience and his ability to COACH and drill into the details on the training pitch have always been well regarded.

He was utter ****e at Forest.

double GG

If Liverpool get 6 million for shelvey, that's an absolute fantastic deal for them! Didn't Liverpool pay like 1.5 millon for him?

Massive profit at that rate. Will be a decent enough signing for swansea though but that 6 million is a lot...

amiable

Pudders wrote: »

He was utter ****e at Forest.

It really helps to read the post you are quoting

swoody

ex Connacht openside Johnny O'Connor will join Jerry Flannery on a placement at Arsenals club academy

inforfun

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

McClaren is an excellent appointment to a coaching staff. Wealth of experience and his ability to COACH and drill into the details on the training pitch have always been well regarded.

He was coach at Twente for almost a year and a half.

Great laughs were had.

MD1990

inforfun wrote: »

He was coach at Twente for almost a year and a half.

Great laughs were had.

yeah especially when they won the Dutch League

ConstantJoe

Vito Mannone signs for Sunderland.

Mikeyt086

swoody wrote: »

ex Connacht openside Johnny O'Connor will join Jerry Flannery on a placement at Arsenals club academy

Told you all Arsenal were getting stronger.

swoody

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Told you all Arsenal were getting stronger.

Barry being linked to a £3.5M switch to the Emirates. lmao

DoctorGonzo08

swoody wrote: »

Barry being linked to a £3.5M switch to the Emirates. lmao

Don't get the joke??

Smithwicks Man

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

Don't get the joke??

Arsenal - We'll buy top players
Barry - Not a top player

Rayne Wooney

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 17s
Sky sources: Liverpool accept £6m bid from Swansea for Jonjo Shelvey #SSN

Why?

mike65

Cos it would have rude not to accept that offer.

Red Crow

Liverpool getting decent money in for some poor players. Good business.

Israeli Superiority

Eli Manning wrote: »

Liverpool getting decent money in for some poor players. Good business.

They have to make amends for Andy Carroll somehow.

DoctorGonzo08

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Arsenal - We'll buy top players
Barry - Not a top player

Barry would easily go straight into Arsenal's midfield. Absolute bargain at £3m.

DM_7

Didn't realise JonJo was only 21, seems to be around a long time.

Winston Payne

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

Barry would easily go straight into Arsenal's midfield. Absolute bargain at £3m.

Who does he replace?

Fuzzy_Dunlop

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

Barry would easily go straight into Arsenal's midfield. Absolute bargain at £3m.

There's no way he's 'easily' better than Wilshere and Arteta anyway.

smileyj1987

DM-ICE wrote: »

Didn't realise JonJo was only 21, seems to be around a long time.

Thats because Liverpool bought him when he was 17 - 18 . He has been a fringe player and looks to have alot of potential . I think its a very good move by Swansea .

Marty McFly

swoody wrote: »

Barry being linked to a £3.5M switch to the Emirates. lmao

Wenger may be called cheap at times but he's not stupid, there no way there's any truth to that.

DoctorGonzo08 wrote: »

Barry would easily go straight into Arsenal's midfield. Absolute bargain at £3m.

I really hope that's sarcasm? He wouldn't even make the bench.

Marty McFly

Marty McFly wrote: »

I really hope that's sarcasm? He wouldn't even make the bench.

He's been a solid starter in a team far superior to Arsenals the last 2 years. He'd be a great buy at that price.

AdamD

rarnes1 wrote: »

He's been a solid starter in a team far superior to Arsenals the last 2 years. He'd be a great buy at that price.

Cause that means anything when looking at specific positions

Marty McFly

rarnes1 wrote: »

He's been a solid starter in a team far superior to Arsenals the last 2 years. He'd be a great buy at that price.

I wouldn't have him near our first 11, we do need a midfielder but if Wenger was to buy Barry as the answer I would not be one bit happy. Arteta is much better player than him and hes certainly not better than Wilshere or Cazorla either.

In that midfield Barry would be coming into the same position as Arteta and well this says it all

Fuzzy_Dunlop

rarnes1 wrote: »

He's been a solid starter in a team far superior to Arsenals the last 2 years. He'd be a great buy at that price.

He'd be ok for the squad alright at that price. However he wouldn't 'easily' walk into the starting line up as seems to be suggested. And Arsenal don't really need more 'good' players to make up the squad, especially in midfield. Higher quality players are more needed to compete directly for first team places.