Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

Luckycharms_74

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/reds-agree-aspas-deal-in-principle

Liverpool have tonight agreed a deal in principle with Celta Vigo for striker Iago Aspas, subject to documentation being completed.


Aspas scored 12 goals in 34 games in 2012-13 despite playing in a side threatened with relegation until the final day of the season.

During the campaign he was directly involved in 51 per cent of his team's goals.

The 25-year-old broke into the senior side at the Spanish outfit in 2009 after graduating from their youth set-up.

Aspas can play through the middle or out wide and he could become Brendan Rodgers's second signing of the summer transfer window following a deal for Kolo Toure.

jethro081

just watching this video of liverpool's top 25 goals this year, and there really were some crackers.

makes for a nice wee watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-SDIi0n-C4

Dub13

The Celtic game weekend is starting to shape up nice. Lafayette bar O Connell bridge are going to be running the bar as a Liverpool bar for the day. Will be doing specials on pints and bottles so will be the perfect meeting point for everyone before the game.

Then later that night The Anfield Wrap are doing a show there. To keep up to date keep an eye here...

http://www.irishkop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22755

Hidalgo

messinkiapina wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2340941/Liverpool-Chelsea-Manchester-City-Premier-leagues-biggest-money-wasters.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

I actually thought we might be rock bottom of this table, 3rd last is awful too though. I'm surprised to see Chelsea that low.

I thought Stoke would nearly be rock bottom

I am pie

Hidalgo wrote: »

I thought Stoke would nearly be rock bottom

How are the squads current values calculated? What the daily mail journo's would pay.

Not convinced.

Chucky the tree

I like the way we are looking abroad for players but it pains me to see us being linked with Mignolet and Bekovic.

Leiva

That looks a cracking night in Lafayette . Where can I get tickets ?


Edit: seetickets.com it is

gafferino

Skysports understands the Aspas fee to be £7.7m

gafferino

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I like the way we are looking abroad for players but it pains me to see us being linked with Mignolet and Bekovic.

Why? They are both good keepers.

Chucky the tree

gafferino wrote: »

Why? They are both good keepers.

Meh. From I've seen I don't think they are good enough. It's easy to look good for worse teams as a keeper. I'd want to see more of them but for £9m+ for what I have seen I am not impressed at all.

Dub13

Leiva wrote: »

That looks a cracking night in Lafayette . Where can I get tickets ?


Edit: seetickets.com it is

Get them early, limited to just under 600 and I believe a good few gone already.

Twoandahalfmen

Closing in in aspas
Source: Sky Sports

Twoandahalfmen

Closing in in aspas
Source: Sky Sports

Twoandahalfmen

Closing in in aspas
Source: Sky Sports

Knex*

Apparently we're closing in on Aspas.

Source is Sky Sports News Twoandahalfmen.

michael999999

Knex. wrote: »

Apparently we're closing in on Aspas.

Source is Sky Sports News.

Sorry, can you repeat that?

Dickerty

gafferino wrote: »

Why? They are both good keepers.

But not an upgrade on Reina.

Rodgers said he wants 3 keepers and 2 for every other position. So assuming he's not considering Danny Ward as 3rd choice, we need another keeper. United have competition for that position, but neither City nor Chelsea do. I don't particularly think we need to splash £9M on competition.

But I still think that Reina could go. If Monaco come in for Valdes (and I think they could do better), then it's possible. I think he'd show his best at Barca, would suit his style, and he'd rediscover his mojo...

gafferino

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Meh. From I've seen I don't think they are good enough. It's easy to look good for worse teams as a keeper. I'd want to see more of them but for £9m+ for what I have seen I am not impressed at all.

I'm not saying there isn't better out there but I think they are decent....I've seen more of Mignolet. He's young too so should improve. Unless we got one of the European hot shots I would be happy with him.

Not always easy to look good in a weaker team....yeah you have more chances to impress but you have less cover and concede more goals. He was voted their player of the year last year.

gafferino

Dickerty wrote: »

But not an upgrade on Reina.

Rodgers said he wants 3 keepers and 2 for every other position. So assuming he's not considering Danny Ward as 3rd choice, we need another keeper. United have competition for that position, but neither City nor Chelsea do. I don't particularly think we need to splash £9M on competition.

But I still think that Reina could go. If Monaco come in for Valdes (and I think they could do better), then it's possible. I think he'd show his best at Barca, would suit his style, and he'd rediscover his mojo...

I think pep might go......I'd be highly surprised if mignolet was signed as competition. Chelsea have Curtois out on loan in good form (and direct competition for Mignolet) if they need him.

Not easy to get keepers....he may be the best available to us this summer (that I know of but definitely not up on all my European keepers)

Twoandahalfmen

Knex. wrote: »

Apparently we're closing in on Aspas.

Source is Sky Sports News Twoandahalfmen.

HAHAHA your gas.

Dickerty

michael999999 wrote: »

Sorry, can you repeat that?

asphinctersayswhat?

Dub13

Dub13 wrote: »

The Celtic game weekend is starting to shape up nice. Lafayette bar O Connell bridge are going to be running the bar as a Liverpool bar for the day. Will be doing specials on pints and bottles so will be the perfect meeting point for everyone before the game.

Then later that night The Anfield Wrap are doing a show there. To keep up to date keep an eye here...

http://www.irishkop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22755

Not to alarm anyone, over 100 tickets in two hours, if you want to get in, now might be a good idea

djPSB

Knex. wrote: »

Apparently we're closing in on Aspas.

Source is Sky Sports News Twoandahalfmen.

Twoandahalfmen x 3 = Sevenandahalfmen

K-9

Rodgers said in the last press conference he wanted to sign a striker and an AM, plus 1/2 CB's. I assume Aspas is the striker, Mk probably the AM and we've been linked with at least 3 CB's. I assume Carroll will be gone so that would be roughly £40 Million out with £15 Million in.

If Suarez goes we'll still have Sturridge, Borini and Aspas as possible CF's, Mk/Coutinho as AM's with Downing/Sterling/Suso/Shelvey as the other front 3 options. While a £20-30 Million striker would be a must if he goes, it does leave us with a lot of CF/Strikers, plus no great options on the right wing.

I'm wondering where Rodgers would spend the Suarez money if we've bought a striker and have 2 others in the squad.

Nuri Sahin

Turtyturd wrote: »

I don't mind you throwing up 'porn' every now and again Nuri but when you start derailing the thread with videos reminding me how good WWE used to be it's a step too far.

I could post some of the Attitude era stuff the divas used to get up to :pac:, but due to the fair few amount of PM's I received let alone in this thread that day, I won't

Anywhoo, good Teixeira season compilation -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7xyYTeabR0

Courtesy Flush

K-9 wrote: »

Rodgers said in the last press conference he wanted to sign a striker and an AM, plus 1/2 CB's. I assume Aspas is the striker, Mk probably the AM and we've been linked with at least 3 CB's. I assume Carroll will be gone so that would be roughly £40 Million out with £15 Million in.

If Suarez goes we'll still have Sturridge, Borini and Aspas as possible CF's, Mk/Coutinho as AM's with Downing/Sterling/Suso/Shelvey as the other front 3 options. While a £20-30 Million striker would be a must if he goes, it does leave us with a lot of CF/Strikers, plus no great options on the right wing.

I'm wondering where Rodgers would spend the Suarez money if we've bought a striker and have 2 others in the squad.

Personally I think we need to strenghen DM and all areas of defence

Nuri Sahin

K-9 wrote: »

Rodgers said in the last press conference he wanted to sign a striker and an AM, plus 1/2 CB's. I assume Aspas is the striker, Mk probably the AM and we've been linked with at least 3 CB's. I assume Carroll will be gone so that would be roughly £40 Million out with £15 Million in.

If Suarez goes we'll still have Sturridge, Borini and Aspas as possible CF's, Mk/Coutinho as AM's with Downing/Sterling/Suso/Shelvey as the other front 3 options. While a £20-30 Million striker would be a must if he goes, it does leave us with a lot of CF/Strikers, plus no great options on the right wing.

I'm wondering where Rodgers would spend the Suarez money if we've bought a striker and have 2 others in the squad.

We don't necessarily have to spend that much on a striker assuming Suarez is off. There is still value out there.

Aubameyang, Bony and Yılmaz - all players we've been linked with would cost less than £20M. Gooooooooooldado would probably cost a tad more than them.

klose

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

. Gooooooooooldado would probably cost a tad more than them.

Considering valencia missed out on the cl we should just throw wads of cash at the man untill he joins us

~Rebel~

To be honest since we only play one centre forward, I don't think we'll be going for a striker. I think someone like Alexis Sanchez - a wider attacker who scores a lot of goals, but also gets a lot of assists is more likely.

klose

~Rebel~ wrote: »

To be honest since we only play one centre forward, I don't think we'll be going for a striker. I think someone like Alexis Sanchez - a wider attacker who scores a lot of goals, but also gets a lot of assists is more likely.

Think thats what that luis alberto guy is meant to be like, apparently hell be next in the door

Knex*

Getting Soldado would go a long way to easing the pain of losing Suarez, but I do think Rebel may be right in saying we might not go for a proper out and out center forward.

~Rebel~

klose wrote: »

Think thats what that luis alberto guy is meant to be like, apparently hell be next in the door

As it stands if Suarez stays, I think Alberto would be his understudy/cover. If we lose Suarez, I think we'll bring in someone higher profile.

Of course it's also possible that Mkhitaryan simply is seen as his replacement.

gafferino

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I could post some of the Attitude era stuff the divas used to get up to :pac:, but due to the fair few amount of PM's I received let alone in this thread that day, I won't

Anywhoo, good Teixeira season compilation -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7xyYTeabR0

Tasty. Not afraid to get stuck in either. Something I'd like to see Suso do.

Sir Gallagher

jethro081 wrote: »

just watching this video of liverpool's top 25 goals this year, and there really were some crackers.

makes for a nice wee watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-SDIi0n-C4

Actually depressing watching that considering Suarez will more than likely leaving.

K-9

~Rebel~ wrote: »

To be honest since we only play one centre forward, I don't think we'll be going for a striker. I think someone like Alexis Sanchez - a wider attacker who scores a lot of goals, but also gets a lot of assists is more likely.

That would solve a lot of problems, and we''ve loads of options to complement him. RW is our problem area in the attacking third for me, too reliant on Johnson and Downing, not that much flair.

I'm puzzled as to why we are emphasising a striker/AM. That was the last area that needed attention for me this summer assuming Suarez stayed, my guess is buying a CF/AM is because the club knows Suarez is gone. They wont state it, but are planning for it.

I suppose what I'm getting at is, if Suarez and Carroll go, that's £55-65 Million, plus £20-25 Million on top from the owners, we could be spending £80-90 Million this summer.

Nuri Sahin

Mertens should have been THE signing.

Knex*

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Mertens should have been THE signing.

I'm refusing to believe he's heading to Napoli for 11m.

It's kinda like how, as far as I'm concerned, Arda Turan is still playing at Galatasaray.

Super-Rush

Sanchez would be an excellent purchase but would he leave Barca to come to us?

There are more realistic signings we could make like Muniain, Turan or Eriksen.

I've always wondered why we never went for Turan especially if he is as big a fan as he is supposed to be.

There are a few good things to take out of the window so far. Have we been linked with any English players? The Ince thing seems to have disappeared.

We're also trying to get the best in young players, well under 27 at least.

Nuri Sahin

Knex. wrote: »

I'm refusing to believe he's heading to Napoli for 11m.

It's kinda like how, as far as I'm concerned, Arda Turan is still playing at Galatasaray.

I'll be mega pissed off if he ends up anywhere other than Dortmund or Liverpool.

There's been a bit of noise in Germany that, sigh, Schalke have inquired over him too.

LuckyLloyd

I'll be out on my own here, but I'd sign Ireland. Available for a minimal fee and you could prolly negotiate circa 40k wages. He has talent and could compliment the style Rodgers is implementing well.

michael999999

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'll be out on my own here, but I'd sign Ireland. Available for a minimal fee and you could prolly negotiate circa 40k wages. He has talent and could compliment the style Rodgers is implementing well.

More trouble than he's worth surely, if he can't do it at Villa what makes you think he could do it with us?

jethro081

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'll be out on my own here, but I'd sign Ireland. Available for a minimal fee and you could prolly negotiate circa 40k wages. He has talent and could compliment the style Rodgers is implementing well.

not in a million years. bar one good season, he's not shown me anything to make me think he's good enough.

also the superman jocks, and pink rimmed jeep posts would become less funny to me if we were supposed to be supporting the knob.

Leiva

Dub13 wrote: »

Get them early, limited to just under 600 and I believe a good few gone already.

Ta

Dickerty

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'll be out on my own here, but I'd sign Ireland. Available for a minimal fee and you could prolly negotiate circa 40k wages. He has talent and could compliment the style Rodgers is implementing well.

HAHAHAHAHA!!

I don't get it.

mormank

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

He's had a few poor games, and one or two fairly average ones IMHO. But as I said, in the main he's done very well for us. Out of 10, I'd give him an 8.5 for his Liverpool career so far.

Just out of curiosity then if Sturridge gets an 8.5 for his first 6 months at Liverpool what would you have given Suarez at the same point in his Liverpool career?

101001

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'll be out on my own here, but I'd sign Ireland. Available for a minimal fee and you could prolly negotiate circa 40k wages. He has talent and could compliment the style Rodgers is implementing well.

The reason they want him out. Of Villa is the wage bill. I'd be skeptical he'd take 40k since he's apparently on 80k. Ireland doesn't strike me as the kinda guy who likes to take a pay cut

Edit: actually it could be 65k with villa

mormank

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'll be out on my own here, but I'd sign Ireland. Available for a minimal fee and you could prolly negotiate circa 40k wages. He has talent and could compliment the style Rodgers is implementing well.

Wow. That's an interesting shout alright. Seems quite out of the blue also. He does have talent alright but is another player that doesn't seem to have the right mentality to succeed at a top club. For around 40k a week (I know you're just guestimating) he would be interesting, but ultimately would fail I believe.

Milkers

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'll be out on my own here, but I'd sign Ireland. Available for a minimal fee and you could prolly negotiate circa 40k wages. He has talent and could compliment the style Rodgers is implementing well.

Not a bad shout at all. Really classy player on his day and could thrive if surrounded by a team of good technicians. What would be his best position/role within the likely Liverpool formation?

LuckyLloyd

michael999999 wrote: »

More trouble than he's worth surely, if he can't do it at Villa what makes you think he could do it with us?

jethro081 wrote: »

not in a million years. bar one good season, he's not shown me anything to make me think he's good enough.

also the superman jocks, and pink rimmed jeep posts would become less funny to me if we were supposed to be supporting the knob.

It's really two good seasons - he was Villa fan's player of the year 2011 / 12. And his 2009 / 10 season was immense.

Dickerty wrote: »

HAHAHAHAHA!!

I don't get it.

It's not a joke. You all want bargains with upside, right? Well bargains with upside don't only come in the form of the latest Football Manager type early twenties player from the continent. Formely talented players who have lost their way and are now available for little outlay when they have point to prove can work very well too.

101001 wrote: »

The reason they want him out. Of Villa is the wage bill. I'd be skeptical he'd take 40k since he's apparently on 80k. Ireland doesn't strike me as the kinda guy who likes to take a pay cut

Edit: actually it could be 65k with villa

He's on 65k, he's not going to get that elsewhere and I reckon he'd relish a shot at a bigger club at the other end of the table.

mormank wrote: »

Wow. That's an interesting shout alright. Seems quite out of the blue also. He does have talent alright but is another player that doesn't seem to have the right mentality to succeed at a top club. For around 40k a week (I know you're just guestimating) he would be interesting, but ultimately would fail I believe.

Milkers wrote: »

Not a bad shout at all. Really classy player on his day and could thrive if surrounded by a team of good technicians. What would be his best position/role within the likely Liverpool formation?

I think he could play either the center or attacking central midfield role (not the defensive one). He's technically adept with a good footballing brain and on his best form and fitness supplied very clever movement.

Definite gamble, but if he rediscovered his 2009 / 10 form he'd instantly improve us imo.

djPSB

mormank wrote: »

Just out of curiosity then if Sturridge gets an 8.5 for his first 6 months at Liverpool what would you have given Suarez at the same point in his Liverpool career?

Sturridge has made a better start than Luis.

But I wouldn't expect him to reach the level Luis reached last season.