Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

Francie Barrett

Leiva wrote: »

gets better...:(

I wish that things didn't end the way they did with Kenny. He may not have been manager material, but he definitely had a role at this club.

Kess73

Handsome Bob wrote: »

First I've heard of that, I actually thought Roy and Kenny were mates at the time.

Not really. If you think back you may remember Hodgson trying to bull****e people into thinking that Rafa ran Kenny out of the club, and that Hodgson was the man who brought Kenny back.


Then people like Kenny's son, Paul, all became quite vocal about Hodgson making stuff up, and within a few days Hodgson was mumbling an aplogy to Rafa through the media. Similar to how Hodgson would come out against various player etc (like he did with Johnson) and then be tripping over himself with some half arsed apology a few days later.

I think the man's ability to be a complet idiot through the media had not been noticed to many of us due to him having a lower profile at most of his other clubs, but by August we certainly knew how much of a bullsh1tter he was in terms of saying one thing and then saying something very different within a few days.

Not to mention his greatest gem about how a loss in the merseyside derby was actually a good performance and that Liverpool suppporters should not see a derby game as being any different to any other game.

Easily the worst manager I have seen at the club during my lifetime.

Francie Barrett

Kess73 wrote: »

Not really. If you think back you may remember Hodgson trying to bull****e people into thinking that Rafa ran Kenny out of the club, and that Hodgson was the man who brought Kenny back.


Then people like Kenny's son, Paul, all became quite vocal about Hodgson making stuff up, and within a few days Hodgson was mumbling an aplogy to Rafa through the media. Similar to how Hodgson would come out against various player etc (like he did with Johnson) and then be tripping over himself with some half arsed apology a few days later.

I think the man's ability to be a complet idiot through the media had not been noticed to many of us due to him having a lower profile at most of his other clubs, but by August we certainly knew how much of a bullsh1tter he was in terms of saying one thing and then saying something very different within a few days.

Not to mention his greatest gem about how a loss in the merseyside derby was actually a good performance and that Liverpool suppporters should not see a derby game as being any different to any other game.

Easily the worst manager I have seen at the club during my lifetime.

Ugh, that all makes me dry heave.

Leiva

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Ugh, that all makes me dry heave.

That is exactly how it was.

@Kess
God bless your clarity of memory. Im amazed at myself how much I have banished Woy's time at Liverpool from my mind, but you have laid it out exactly how the man was, how I remember forget it, and how it panned out.

Yuck.

Rayne Wooney

Jaysus lads, some scoffing at Nani playing for Liverpool with figures of 8.5 million floating around.

I'd absolutely hate Nani to go to Liverpool for the two painstakingly obvious reasons that we'd be losing by far our best winger, who we couldn't replace for under 30 million, and that he'd significantly improve your attack. Nani is up there with the best wingers on his day, to argue against that is just stupid. A front 4 of Suarez, Nani, Coutinho and Sturridge is worthy of a top 4 finish.

Downing over Nani? well that is an idiosyncratic belief if ever I saw one. Someone stick up the video of Downing's goals and assists in his 36 appearances from 11/12 season for the laugh. Last time I checked a wingers main job in a team 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 in Liverpool's case is to score and/or create goals. Some would be quick to say Nani isn't consistent at scoring or assisting therefore he isn't a good winger, then go on to say Downing is a good one because he defends well and can pass the ball 5 yards.

The bids on the table for him are 8.5 million from overheard rumours, Liverpool could put a bid in of 10-12 million and the club would have to consider it. Show the clubs intentions of becoming a top 4 team again, sign world class talent. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be expecting a bid on Nani, not laughing it off. If you're going to buy Aspas for 8 million then why not go for Nani.

There's a lot of people who's posts in here I genuinely like to read through. Some great opinions. But then there's the others that annoy me with the stuff you'd expect from a 10 year old "don't sign that poncy Nani fella he's shíte and and a crybag and worse of all he plays for that scum United". You know the type.

Pedalstool

Kess73 wrote: »

Not really. If you think back you may remember Hodgson trying to bull****e people into thinking that Rafa ran Kenny out of the club, and that Hodgson was the man who brought Kenny back.


Then people like Kenny's son, Paul, all became quite vocal about Hodgson making stuff up, and within a few days Hodgson was mumbling an aplogy to Rafa through the media. Similar to how Hodgson would come out against various player etc (like he did with Johnson) and then be tripping over himself with some half arsed apology a few days later.

I think the man's ability to be a complet idiot through the media had not been noticed to many of us due to him having a lower profile at most of his other clubs, but by August we certainly knew how much of a bullsh1tter he was in terms of saying one thing and then saying something very different within a few days.

Not to mention his greatest gem about how a loss in the merseyside derby was actually a good performance and that Liverpool suppporters should not see a derby game as being any different to any other game.

Easily the worst manager I have seen at the club during my lifetime.

I don't know why people are so hard on Hodgson. He gave me one of my greatest moments as a Liverpool supporter, “that famous victory against Trabzonspor”.

Turtyturd

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Isn't it gas when a utd player is mentioned on here and the lads step out of the shadows to have a whinge.

They are only defending truth, justice, and the united way.

YouTookMyName

Leiva wrote: »

I'm full of good news today....

It just shows how badly the club was being run at the time.

I am pie

If only Pellegrini had come in, would be ideal to have him in now and Kenny upstairs without having to come back into the managers seat.

Root cause of all this madness is the way the club was to G&H. That, more than managerial merry go rounds, has stopped us from becoming title challengers with a redeveloped stadium and has reduced us to fighting tooth and nail for a poxy 4th place spot and an early start to the summer in the champs league qualifiers.

That was one of the worst days in our footballing history, selling the club to those 2 rats.

Kess73

Leiva wrote: »

That is exactly how it was.

@Kess
God bless your clarity of memory. Im amazed at myself how much I have banished Woy's time at Liverpool from my mind, but you have laid it out exactly how the man was, how I remember forget it, and how it panned out.

Yuck.

Some things are best not forgotten if one does not wish to repeat them done the line.

Can say with confidence that I have never felt the kind of unrest in the home support as that felt from September 2010 to December 2010. Rodgers had a similar bad start, but one thing we never saw from Rodgers was a big smile after defeats or a man just sitting there rubbing his face constantly. Rodgers looked angry with losses, Hodgson seemed to accept them as being ok and that contrast in attitude was, imo, the difference between getting the support of the match goers overr getting their scorn.

The man had alarm bells ringing when he started, during the preseason, talking about defeats and draws being acceptable results. His comments after the Merseyside derby was when he 100% lost me. Was spitting mad when I heard his idiotic comments at the time, and think I spent the next two or so months on here ranting about him.

“They’ll be a formidable challenge” ( Northampton Town)


"A famous victory" (1-0 at Bolton)


You know you have the wrong manager at Liverpool FC when he comes out with stuff like this

ben.schlomo

Kess73 wrote: »

Some things are best not forgotten if one does not wish to repeat them done the line.

Can say with confidence that I have never felt the kind of unrest in the home support as that felt from September 2010 to December 2010. Rodgers had a similar bad start, but one thing we never saw from Rodgers was a big smile after defeats or a man just sitting there rubbing his face constantly. Rodgers looked angry with losses, Hodgson seemed to accept them as being ok and that contrast in attitude was, imo, the difference between getting the support of the match goers overr getting their scorn.

The man had alarm bells ringing when he started, during the preseason, talking about defeats and draws being acceptable results. His comments after the Merseyside derby was when he 100% lost me. Was spitting mad when I heard his idiotic comments at the time, and think I spent the next two or so months on here ranting about him.

You mean you were the Mr Alan and Lloyd of 2010?? Hope for them yet then.:D

Handsome Bob

Christ Kess, reading your post on Woy gave me both a great sense of dread and massive relief.

Leiva

ben.schlomo wrote: »

You mean you were the Mr Alan and Lloyd of 2010?? Hope for them yet then.:D

I value Mr Alan, Lloyd and Daithjill opinions in here, and they are yet to be proven wrong, and we all need to hope to hell they are not proven right.

now I'm saving my 10,000th post for something special. I know what it is and have everything crossed.

see ya's

G.K.

*starts deleting Leiva's posts*

Kess73

Pedalstool wrote: »

I don't know why people are so hard on Hodgson. He gave me one of my greatest moments as a Liverpool supporter, “that famous victory against Trabzonspor”.

That is true, and the same man also praised a historic away win over Bolton and an away draw at Utrecht. Magnificent stuff really.

Pedalstool

Kess73 wrote: »

That is true, and the same man also praised a historic away win over Bolton and an away draw at Utrecht. Magnificent stuff really.

I was always amazed how someone I believed would be a safe pair of hands in the short term, turned out to be such a bumbling idiot. The intensity of a job like Liverpool really highlights your deficiencys. How he got the England job is beyond me. I wish him well.

Oranage2

What were people expecting from hodgson, the owners didn't give him any money, the fans never got behind him either, also didn't he have a similar points total as kenny after kenny spending over a hundred million?

Pedalstool

Oranage2 wrote: »

What were people expecting from hodgson, the owners didn't give him any money, the fans never got behind him either, also didn't he have a similar points total as kenny after kenny spending over a hundred million?

“I don’t think Fernando Torres will be the only striker they target, and I don’t think that we will be the only club that will be worried their striker can be targeted. I am not naive to believe there won’t be any danger and we will never lose a player like Torres, I understand these things can happen.”

He just didn't get what managing Liverpool was about.

Oranage2

Oranage2 wrote: »

What were people expecting from hodgson, the owners didn't give him any money, the fans never got behind him either, also didn't he have a similar points total as kenny after kenny spending over a hundred million?

Lets see who falls for it

Oranage2

rarnes1 wrote: »

Lets see who falls for it

Fall for what?

Its a question on a discussion site looking for peoples opinions.

Any update on the Sturridge injury?

Sir Gallagher

Oranage2 wrote: »

What were people expecting from hodgson, the owners didn't give him any money, the fans never got behind him either, also didn't he have a similar points total as kenny after kenny spending over a hundred million?

This type of shyte is even sillier now then it was back then. As if we should have been happy with the shyte football, shyte results, player unrest, shyte transfers and completely patronising and pathetic interviews to the media at the time.

It's as if we had a cheek to expect a manager who served up nothing but than a big steaming shyte sandwich.

rarnes1 wrote: »

Lets see who falls for it

Do i win a prize :pac:

Pedalstool

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

This type of shyte is even sillier now then it was back then. As if we should have been happy with the shyte football, shyte results, player unrest, shyte transfers and completely patronising and pathetic interviews to the media at the time.

It's as if we had a cheek to expect a manager who served up nothing but than a big steaming shyte sandwich.

Thats some serious alliteration. Bravo.

Kess73

ben.schlomo wrote: »

You mean you were the Mr Alan and Lloyd of 2010?? Hope for them yet then.:D

Not really, as when I am wrong, I can still fall back on the fact I am amazingly handsome and utterly devoid of any sense of modesty.:D


Would go as far as to say that I make Handsome Bob look a minger. :pac:

Kess73

G.K. wrote: »

*starts deleting Leiva's posts*

The trick is to wait until he posts his milestone post, then delete a few of his older posts.

Or just get a few mods onboard across the site and he could be kept on 9,999 forever :D:D:D

messinkiapina

Johnson is studying for a degree in Maths. Fair play to him. I can't imagine being able to motivate myself to do much else than play football if I was getting the kind of money premiership footballers are on.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/glen-johnsons-liverpool-team-mates-test-1953045

Oranage2

Well I'll leave it at this if people don't want to discuss it but in my opinion I don't think hodge was as bad as he was made out, though I do agree he wasn't great either, personally I think kenny done a lot more damage during his tenure then Roy did.

Grayditch

Oranage2 wrote: »

Well I'll leave it at this if people don't want to discuss it but in my opinion I don't think hodge was as bad as he was made out, though I do agree he wasn't great either, personally I think kenny done a lot more damage during his tenure then Roy did.

Thanks, man.

Turtyturd

Some people should need a licence for opinions.

Oranage2

Indeed...

Turtyturd wrote: »

Some people should need a licence for opinions.

Pedalstool

messinkiapina wrote: »

Johnson is studying for a degree in Maths. Fair play to him. I can't imagine being able to motivate myself to do much else than play football if I was getting the kind of money premiership footballers are on.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/glen-johnsons-liverpool-team-mates-test-1953045

He could spend some of that spare time learning to defend the back post a bit better. He's a decent player but I think we could do better than him if I was honest.

Fair play to him pushing himself off the field academically. I wish him well.

Turtyturd

Oranage2 wrote: »

Indeed...

redzerdrog

Pedalstool wrote: »

He could spend some of that spare time learning to defend the back post a bit better. He's a decent player but I think we could do better than him if I was honest.

who do you think we could get that is better? baring in mind what he offers us in the the current system where the full backs are encouraged to attack

Oranage2

Turtyturd wrote: »

You wouldn't mind describing this no doubt hilarious gif, I'm currently on my phone and it won't show.

Phoenix Park

messinkiapina wrote: »

Johnson is studying for a degree in Maths. Fair play to him. I can't imagine being able to motivate myself to do much else than play football if I was getting the kind of money premiership footballers are on.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/glen-johnsons-liverpool-team-mates-test-1953045

You have 20 pounds, Glen. The toilet seat costs 10 pounds. How many pounds have you got left?

Glen: "20 pounds"

klose

Pedalstool wrote: »

He could spend some of that spare time learning to defend the back post a bit better. He's a decent player but I think we could do better than him if I was honest.

Fair play to him pushing himself off the field academically. I wish him well.

At times from march onwards i felt like banging my head off the wall watching him play but when hes back to his normal self after summer hopefully theres not much better available then him imo.

Pedalstool

redzerdrog wrote: »

who do you think we could get that is better? baring in mind what he offers us in the the current system where the full backs are encouraged to attack

Difficult to say, I don't think my knowledge of players is quite good enough to come up with good alternatives.

Though I always feel Liverpool look more secure with Kelly there.

We all know that Johnson is average at best defensively, however, just how good is he offensively? He certainly didn't contribute hugely this season.

redzerdrog

Pedalstool wrote: »

Difficult to say, I don't think my knowledge of players is quite good enough to come up with good alternatives.

Though I always feel Liverpool look more secure with Kelly there.

We all know that Johnson is average at best defensively, however, just how good is he offensively? He certainly didn't contribute hugely this season.

he is certainly better than average defensively i think he is massively under rated and Kelly isnt a patch on him

zabaleta apart I dont think there is a better rb in the league

Pedalstool

redzerdrog wrote: »

he is certainly better than average defensively i think he is massively under rated and Kelly isnt a patch on him

zabaleta apart I dont think there is a better rb in the league

In some ways you are right, there aren't many better right backs in the league. There is a dearth of quality at the moment in England. Johnson is a player with some good assets but his concentration is poor and he is at fault for conceding goals all too frequently.

Much like Daniel Agger, another player I think we could do better than. I know that opinion might not go down well but I believe he is far too passive. How many goals from set pieces did we concede this year as a result of him?

MarkY91

Pedalstool wrote: »

In some ways you are right, there aren't many better right backs in the league. There is a dearth of quality at the moment in England. Johnson is a player with some good assets but his concentration is poor and he is at fault for conceding goals all too frequently.

Much like Daniel Agger, another player I think we could do better than. I know that opinion might not go down well but I believe he is far too passive. How many goals from set pieces did we concede this year as a result of him?

i agree. we conceaded alot of goals due to agger and johnson not doing their job. mainly johnson

Courtesy Flush

Its fairly clear our defending needs major work. Rogers likes to commit players forward and create a more open game. This is great for creating goalscoring opportunities but left us short at the back many times

Kerrigooney

Pedalstool wrote: »

In some ways you are right, there aren't many better right backs in the league. There is a dearth of quality at the moment in England. Johnson is a player with some good assets but his concentration is poor and he is at fault for conceding goals all too frequently.

Much like Daniel Agger, another player I think we could do better than. I know that opinion might not go down well but I believe he is far too passive. How many goals from set pieces did we concede this year as a result of him?

For what it's worth I agree 100% with you. About Johnson and Agger.

Just catching up on todays posts...hmm...Stephen Ireland,Nani,Kess thinking he's handsome...must be a full moon.

5live

Phoenix Park wrote: »

You have 20 pounds, Glen. The toilet seat costs 10 pounds. How many pounds have you got left?

Glen: "20 pounds"

Ahhhh the dirty fekker.

He should have bought the damn toilet seat:D

ManOnFire

Southampton have signed Lovren, was linked with us once or twice. good signing for them

Knex*

ManOnFire wrote: »

Southampton have signed Lovren, was linked with us once or twice. good signing for them

Very interested to see who else they will sign now. Like you said, pretty good signing for them.

Ramirez last summer was a real coup too.

redzerdrog

MarkY91 wrote: »

i agree. we conceaded alot of goals due to agger and johnson not doing their job. mainly johnson

the previous season we had the best defence in the league I think it is the system rather than the two players mentioned

klose

Seems alderweierld is off to leverkusen now (samii buying well i see, son also) hopefully well get papa and llori if so..


Really wanted a belgian


:pac:

redzerdrog

klose wrote: »

Seems alderweierld is off to leverkusen now (samii buying well i see, son also) hopefully well get papa and llori if so..


Really wanted a belgian


:pac:

Be carefull what you wish for

Mignolet (sp?) is belgian isnt he