Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

machiavellianme

klose wrote: »

His stats show that he largely punches the ball which i cant say im a fan of, can land you in a bit of trouble at times

As long as he keeps it and any follow ups out, I don't care what he does.

whatawaster

whatawaster wrote: »

I know for some Suarez is bigger than the club and can do whatever he wants without criticism, but for me he should STFU.

If he wants to leave, hand in a transfer request.
Otherwise, the £100,000 we pay him every week should be enough to buy some fckuing silence.

Id be interested to know who said Suarez was bigger than the club. No player will ever be.

If it feels good to hyperbole though carry on.

Hidalgo

CSF wrote: »

Less of a rush to sign Suarez also as he won't be available early on anyway.

I don't think any ban he would have to serve under another FA would really put too many teams off, if they're looking at Suarez as a 4-5 yr striker at your club, you'll take the hit of the first 6 games

MD1990

a very good Coutinho compilation
he was a bargain at 8m

Pedalstool

Hidalgo wrote: »

I don't think any ban he would have to serve under another FA would really put too many teams off, if they're looking at Suarez as a 4-5 yr striker at your club, you'll take the hit of the first 6 games

I think what might put teams off is his track record of getting bans and generally disgracing himself.

5live

LiamoSail wrote: »

He's boarding Peter odemwinge territory now. I hope for his sake sky Harry Redknapp aren't outside the bernabau on deadline day

:pac:

livinginkorea

MD1990 wrote: »

a very good Coutinho compilation
he was a bargain at 8m

He has improved Enrique's game a lot as well. Those two do work well together.

Enrique and Suarez have a fantastic understanding on the pitch. That was evident before Coutinho even came along

Dub13

Strongbow10 wrote: »

its pretty obvious whats happening in fairness, theres no way that Real have not reached out to him.

They are looking for him to force Liverpool's hand into letting him go on the cheap in the hope we'll be desperate to get rid of a disgruntled player for below market rate. He is probably a target for Madrid but not a priority.

We did similar ourselves with Gareth Barry a few year back, really unsettled him at Villa. He angled for a move and our bid never came. The very same could happen here.

The club absolutely must stay strong on this, if a bid of at least €50million doesn't materialise, then we need to be strong enough to insist the player stays. We should not be forced into a corner of allowing a player to leave below his market price.

And if I hear any guff about "good riddance, let him go if he doesn't respect the red shirt, if he doesn't wanna be here then we don't want him, we are Liverpool Football club" etc etc.. i'll go mad. A big club does things on their terms and will not be dictated to by one individual.

He has 4 years left on his deal. Either we get the fee we ask for or he honours his contract

This is spot on. I would add that Madrid are not the only player in town on this one. A proper bid could well come in from psg, monaco, or anzhi, so we need to hold firm on our valuation.

Dub13

One of the brilliant banners which will be on display at the Premier League protest this Wednesday 19th June. All fans of all clubs welcome.

billy2012

Pedalstool wrote: »

I believe Mkhitaryan, Coutinho and Luis Alberto will be given the task of replacing Suarez. I feel Rodgers prefers a powerful, quick forward like Sturridge up front with advanced midfielders or forwards operating behind him. Sturridge created so much space for Couthinho to operate in. I see Mkhitaryan, Luis Alberto and Coutinho all operating behind a lone striker. All interchangeable, all have goals and assists to their game.


What Liverpool may well do is add another forward in the Sturridge mould to the squad.

All hyperbole on my part of course.

I really hope this is not the case.

I am extremely happy with the players we have been linked with Mkhitaryan and Alberto (granted I would of preferred Mertens for similar money) but they can't be expected to replace Suarez.

When Sturridge is injured (on a fairly regular basis) it leaves us with only Borini upfront.

Compare this to what City, Utd, Chelsea upfront. Spurs are going to buy a couple of class strikers this window.

IMO we need a top top striker to replace Suarez if we have a chance of getting near top 4 next season.

super_furry

Dub13 wrote: »

One of the brilliant banners which will be on display at the Premier League protest this Wednesday 19th June. All fans of all clubs welcome.

Had to do a double take there, thought it was a League of Ireland banner.

What's the Premier League protest about?

Pedalstool

billy2012 wrote: »

I really hope this is not the case.

I am extremely happy with the players we have been linked with Mkhitaryan and Alberto (granted I would of preferred Mertens for similar money) but they can't be expected to replace Suarez.

When Sturridge is injured (on a fairly regular basis) it leaves us with only Borini upfront.

Compare this to what City, Utd, Chelsea upfront. Spurs are going to buy a couple of class strikers this window.

IMO we need a top top striker to replace Suarez if we have a chance of getting near top 4 next season.

There isn't really another forward out there that plays the same way Suarez does though. What I'm suggesting is that Liverpool will compensate for the loss of Suarez by shifting tactics a little. The way they did with Sturridge and Coutinho at the end of the season.

I agree Liverpool need to add another forward of quality should Suarez leave. But I see the majority of the money being spent of improving the team as a whole as opposed to spending a vast sum on another individual.

billy2012

Pedalstool wrote: »

There isn't really another forward out there that plays the same way Suarez does though. What I'm suggesting is that Liverpool will compensate for the loss of Suarez by shifting tactics a little. The way they did with Sturridge and Coutinho at the end of the season.

I agree Liverpool need to add another forward of quality should Suarez leave. But I see the majority of the money being spent of improving the team as a whole as opposed to spending a vast sum on another individual.

I don't mean a player the same as Suarez, just another striker. I actually forgot about Aspas who is fairly similar to him. Regardless, I still feel we need a top striker to replace him when / if he goes.

The banner is about the ever increasing ticket prices afaik

Pedalstool

billy2012 wrote: »

I don't mean a player the same as Suarez, just another striker. I actually forgot about Aspas who is fairly similar to him. Regardless, I still feel we need a top striker to replace him when / if he goes.

I think Sturridge could be that top striker. I think he could score 25 goals next season if the club can manage his fitness correctly. If you spend £25 million on another striker, then where does that leave Sturridge?

mada999

nucker wrote: »

This video is funny, a nine year old boy was interviewing BR

FRIEND?!

Super-Rush

Yet more cringe from SOS.

billy2012

Pedalstool wrote: »

I think Sturridge could be that top striker. I think he could score 25 goals next season if the club can manage his fitness correctly. If you spend £25 million on another striker, then where does that leave Sturridge?

I agree. I think Sturridge is quality, I was one of the few who genuinely excited when he moved to us.

Regardless of how good he is, we need another striker.

As I said before, look at what the other top 4 guys have. They all have a few top strikers. This is what we need.

Knex*

rarnes1 wrote: »

The banner is about the ever increasing ticket prices afaik

I was wondering. Looked to me like a protest against bringing young kids into a pub

Kerrigooney

Super-Rush wrote: »

Yet more cringe from SOS.

Are you talking about the banner/protest?

Granted,some of the things they've done in the past have been "cringe" but why do you think this is?

Turtyturd

Pedalstool wrote: »

I think Sturridge could be that top striker. I think he could score 25 goals next season if the club can manage his fitness correctly. If you spend £25 million on another striker, then where does that leave Sturridge?

If we have Sturridge as our main striker on September 1st that will be the end of any hopes of top 4.

Pedalstool

Turtyturd wrote: »

If we have Sturridge as our main striker on September 1st that will be the end of any hopes of top 4.

Don't rate him at all then?

The Rooster

The banner is ridiculous. Its having a go at pubs and TV companies instead of clubs.

IF YOU TOLERATE THIS YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE NEXT

High ticket prices are forcing children into pubs?

Live games being on television have nothing to do with high ticket prices. Live games being shown in pubs have nothing to do with high ticket prices.

Looks like the intention was to come up with a "please think of the children" banner. But the focus of the ire was misplaced!

Of course it might be nothing to do with ticket prices, certainly difficult to decipher from that banner! Maybe it is what it looks like - a protest against pubs showing football.

Grayditch

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Are you talking about the banner/protest?

Granted,some of the things they've done in the past have been "cringe" but why do you think this is?

That phrase is generally associated with more serious human rights situations. Probably why some people could be slighty put off by it being used here.

Turtyturd

Pedalstool wrote: »

Don't rate him at all then?

I was championing him before the majority in this thread jumped on the band wagon...but he is a good secondary option, not the type of quality we need as our main player.

jesus_thats_gre

Dub13 wrote: »

One of the brilliant banners which will be on display at the Premier League protest this Wednesday 19th June. All fans of all clubs welcome.

Really confusing message.

Pedalstool

Turtyturd wrote: »

I was championing him before the majority in this thread jumped in the band wagon...but he is a good secondary option, not the type of quality we need as our main player.

I was very sceptical about him initially, I didn't rate him highly but he's impressed me. I think he's earned the chance to be our number one striker. 11 goals in 15 games? Thats pretty prolific. His all round game is quite good. I think to see the best from him you need to show confidence in him.

I think if he plays second choice he will decline as a player and move on quickly.

Turtyturd

Pedalstool wrote: »

I was very sceptical about him initially, I didn't rate him highly but he's impressed me. I think he's earned the chance to be our number one striker. 11 goals in 15 games? Thats pretty prolific. His all round game is quite good. I think to see the best from him you need to show confidence in him.

I think if he plays second choice he will decline as a player and move on quickly.

I don't mean second choice as in not starting. If one of our players have the ball and have Suarez and Sturridge ahead of them, the majority of the time it would go to Suarez as he is our main player...Sturridge would be a second choice.

If he becomes the main option he will become more selfish and we will spend more time frustrated with him than praising him.

Knex*

Turtyturd wrote: »

I was championing him before the majority in this thread jumped on the band wagon...but he is a good secondary option, not the type of quality we need as our main player.

Turtyturd

Knex. wrote: »

Don't ruin it.

Kerrigooney

Fair enough. The banner probably hasn't been fully thought through but the protest is definitely a good idea.

Fans are getting screwed left,right and centre these days.

I don't imagine anything will come of it but it's a good idea to let the clubs know the fans aren't happy.

Knex*

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Fair enough. The banner probably hasn't been fully thought through but the protest is definitely a good idea.

Fans are getting screwed left,right and centre these days.

I don't imagine anything will come of it but it's a good idea to let the clubs know the fans aren't happy.

I'd be more in favour of a simple white banner consisting of "Stop raising the ticket prices ye cunts" in black writing.

Clear message, nothing left to your own deciphering and, rather ironically, it would cost less too.

Pedalstool

Turtyturd wrote: »

I don't mean second choice as in not starting. If one of our players have the ball and have Suarez and Sturridge ahead of them, the majority of the time it would go to Suarez as he is our main player...Sturridge would be a second choice.

If he becomes the main option he will become more selfish and we will spend more time frustrated with him than praising him.

I think if Sturridge is nurtured properly, he will turn out to be one of the best strikers in Europe. In terms of ability I think he has more than Torres. I think he could prove to be even better than Torres in time. If he is handled properly. The big question remains over his attitude and determination but he has started life at Liverpool really well.

Kerrigooney

Knex. wrote: »

I'd be more in favour of a simple white banner consisting of "Stop rising the ticket prices ye cunts" in black writing.

Clear message, nothing left to your own deciphering and, rather ironically, it would cost less too.

Haha. I think you might be on to something there.

There should be more people like you in advertising

The Rooster

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Fair enough. The banner probably hasn't been fully thought through but the protest is definitely a good idea.

Fans are getting screwed left,right and centre these days.

I don't imagine anything will come of it but it's a good idea to let the clubs know the fans aren't happy.

But would you not be scratching your head as an owner to have fans on the one hand screaming at you to spend more and on the other hand screaming at you to reduce revenues!?

kfallon

Are all live EPL games on Sky next season, no more evening games on ESPN?

Do Setanta still have the 3pm games?

billy2012

kfallon wrote: »

Are all live EPL games on Sky next season, no more evening games on ESPN?

Do Setanta still have the 3pm games?

BT will have a good few games. Think ESPN are on the way out unfortunately!!

Grayditch

Knex. wrote: »

I'd be more in favour of a simple white banner consisting of "Stop raising the ticket prices ye cunts" in black writing.

Clear message, nothing left to your own deciphering and, rather ironically, it would cost less too.

Don Draper aproves.

Pedalstool

billy2012 wrote: »

BT will have a good few games. Think ESPN are on the way out unfortunately!!

BT have bought ESPN UK and Ireland from Disney.

Kerrigooney

The Rooster wrote: »

But would you not be scratching your head as an owner to have fans on the one hand screaming at you to spend more and on the other hand screaming at you to reduce revenues!?

There's more money than ever in the game. The team that finishes bottom next season will earn more than Man City did when they won it last year but still the prices go up? It's bull****.

G.K.

Srijandeep Das ‏@LFC_360 31s

Liverpool have agreed personal terms for Tiago Ilori.

YouTookMyName

G.K. wrote: »

Srijandeep Das ‏@LFC_360 31s

Liverpool have agreed personal terms for Tiago Ilori.

Means damn all if the 2 clubs can't agree a fee no? Nothings been said about the fee yet.

Dub13

Super-Rush wrote: »

Yet more cringe from SOS.

Its a Liverpool fans banner, not an SOS one.

Kerrigooney

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Means damn all if the 2 clubs can't agree a fee no? Nothings been said about the fee yet.

Seems we've made a €4m bid but Sporting want €5m. Shouldn't be too hard to sort out.

opr

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Means damn all if the 2 clubs can't agree a fee no? Nothings been said about the fee yet.

I know Sporting look to be playing a bit of hard ball but the reality is that they are financially ****ed so I'm sure it will get done. I would rather though that we don't piss them off to any great degree over the price as they've quite a few other youth players we might come looking for over the next few years.

Opr

Kerrigooney

Manchester City FC believes that Scout7, its online performance analysis system, has been hacked, and has brought in ‘computer espionage experts’ to discover what has happened.

A report in today’s Sunday Mirror suggests that a rival Premier League club is to blame for the infiltration of the system which holds detailed scouting reports on every player who has been targeted both home and abroad.

An investigation into the hacking, which could compromise deals and reveal information, is currently underway.

A Premier League chief scout told Sunday People Sport: “The scouting industry as a whole is a fairly small one.

“That means of course that clubs do sometimes know which players are being checked out and by which clubs.

“Having someone else – especially a rival – access that information and see which players you are looking at, which players you may buy and which ones are being monitored over a defined period would be seen as catastrophic.”

It has been suggested that both professional and personal details of candidates were accessed.

I hope our ex-City scouts haven't had anything to do with this :eek:

Grayditch

Definitely Spurs :pac: :pac: :pac:

5starpool

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I hope our ex-City scouts haven't had anything to do with this :eek:

We are hardly tracking the same players as City unfortunately.

On the banner I agree with the general grievance of course (LFC prices going up an average of 9% next season ffs), but that particular banner is hardly that clear. I get that it is showing a father taking his son to the pub to watch rather than the stadium which it would have been in the past perhaps, but it's hardly a clear message really.

Kirby

Kerrigooney wrote: »

Seems we've made a €4m bid but Sporting want €5m. Shouldn't be too hard to sort out.

Knowing Liverpool, you will probably end up paying 6. Proper negotiating that! :P

By all accounts, he is a good player. Could be a very good buy for that short money.