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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Strumms wrote: »
    Hey folks.. just out of idol curiosity and boredom does anyone in the know know what airframe would be provisionally scheduled to operate EI528 DUB-CDG this Wednesday ? Thanks..

    For security reasons, that will not be revealed to the public. I doubt anyone here will be able to tell you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,473 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    billie1b wrote: »
    Ah you going to Paris? My second favourite city in the world


    yes a short break with the other half. She hasn't been before and is all excited to the point of starting to pack already. :rolleyes: :pac: truly is a great city though. I was fortunate enough to live there for a brief time a good few years ago and still love going back.

    As well as that there are usually some interesting heavies that use the same Satelite Lounge at CDG that you can watch with beer in hand waiting for your flight..


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭billie1b


    Strumms wrote: »
    yes a short break with the other half. She hasn't been before and is all excited to the point of starting to pack already. :rolleyes: :pac: truly is a great city though. I was fortunate enough to live there for a brief time a good few years ago and still love going back.

    As well as that there are usually some interesting heavies that use the same Satelite Lounge at CDG that you can watch with beer in hand waiting for your flight..

    Nice!! I love it, try go at least once a year with the wife, we both have a great affection for the city, the last time we were there was for the shootings, we arrived 2 days later, we were one street behind where the police raided the mad bastards house, watching helicopters, listening to gunfire and flash grenades going off, it was madness. Still didn't turn me off though.

    Anyways your aircraft for tomorrow is at the moment EI-CVB an A320-214, one of the older ones in the fleet, its still subject to change though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,189 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


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    They really aren't supposed to do this :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭The King of Dalriada


    smurfjed wrote: »

    They really aren't supposed to do this :)

    Fag in the aft galley?!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    An interesting development, Flybe appears to have gotten it's hands on some/all of the former Little Red slots at LHR for domestic services

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/Companies/article1686314.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2016_04_09


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,008 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    BE would be far more willing to make transfer agreements with airlines from every alliance than VS were, I'd think. Might actually work - especially considering there were rumours of EI taking the slots and operating a generic-branded Star Alliance service on those routes pre IAG takeover due to there being enough traffic.

    The BMI routes lived off Star transfers before, if an airline was willing to be a codeshare slag it could work quite well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,180 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    An interesting development, Flybe appears to have gotten it's hands on some/all of the former Little Red slots at LHR for domestic services

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/Companies/article1686314.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2016_04_09

    DH8D at LHR?


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,008 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    DH8D at LHR?

    Wouldn't be that out of the question, but they do have EJets which aren't that uncommon there at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    Came across this on FB. Today FM sent one of their people up flying with the Air Corps in a PC-9.

    http://www.todayfm.com/PanAm-Tries-Flying-With-The-Irish-Air-Corps

    Video here:

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153675112147568&id=36108807567

    Must have been quite an experience, not to mention sitting on a live ejection seat!

    Video could've done without the cliché top gun music though!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,189 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Had the pleasure of flying in Business Class of a B787-900 (B789) the airline has 4 seats across, but they are angled at about 45 degrees off center, so you basically end up looking across at the side of the aircraft and getting the view out of about a dozen windows, it was quite fun.

    I wish that i could tell you more about the aircraft, but i started sleeping right after takeoff until descent!


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,884 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    smurfjed wrote: »
    I wish that i could tell you more about the aircraft, but i started sleeping right after takeoff until descent!

    That's just selfish....we wanted pics!

    Very private from each other I assume?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,189 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


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    This aircraft entered service about two months ago.

    Note the 3 point harness, first time that i have seen this and I'm not too sure if its because of the seat angle.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,884 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    smurfjed wrote: »
    This aircraft entered service about two months ago.

    Note the 3 point harness, first time that i have seen this and I'm not too sure if its because of the seat angle.
    That looks very plush.
    I had read in on of the aviation magazines last year about Qantas getting the same seats as EI (Thompson Advantage) but having 3 point harness fitted to theirs. The benefit in that case was that the passenger can be completely reclined from pushback to chocks on, due to the extra restrain security of the 3 point harness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Nice article about Aer Lingus in this month's Airliner World.


  • Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭LiamaDelta


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Had the pleasure of flying in Business Class of a B787-900 (B789) the airline has 4 seats across, but they are angled at about 45 degrees off center, so you basically end up looking across at the side of the aircraft and getting the view out of about a dozen windows, it was quite fun.

    I wish that i could tell you more about the aircraft, but i started sleeping right after takeoff until descent!

    Mind if I ask what airline? They're pretty decent J seats.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,189 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Saudia, they only have a dual configuration in the aircraft, 24 Business and 280(?) Economy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Inside Shannon on RTE 1 now


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,180 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    Inside Shannon on RTE 1 now

    Got me all excited, but it's a repeat:(


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  • Moderators Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭Wise Old Elf


    Ha. I appear in a tiny corner of this at the midnight runway run. Blink and you'll miss me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Got me all excited, but it's a repeat:(

    Sorry about that :o


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,884 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Christoph Mueller on the move again?
    I think it was always going to be a short tenure.
    The Malaysian's weren't happy with a person of his origin being needed to sort out their issues. And once the ship was turned around he could be off. Apparently his family stayed in Ireland after he left EI.
    Good CV notation for him before another posting somewhere in Europe.....any other airlines else looking bloated and losing cash?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    How long was he there??


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Growler!!!


    Found this on another forum in regard to a replacement for the Air Corps Cessnas. It's long but brought a smile:D




    This article might be of interest..

    Undaunted by aerodynamic reality, the design team at Pilatus/Britten-Norman has announced plans for the BN2-XL (Extra Loud), promising more noise, reduced payload, a lower cruise speed, and increased pilot workload.

    We spoke to Mr. Fred Gribble, former British Rail boilermaker and now Chief Project Engineer. Fred was responsible for developing many original and creative design flaws in the service of his former employer, and assures he will be incorporating these in the new BN2-XL technology under a licensing agreement.

    Fred reassured BN-2 pilots however that all fundamental design flaws of the original model had been retained. Further good news is that the XL version is available as a retrofit.

    Among the new measures is that of locking the ailerons in the central position, following airborne and simulator tests which showed that whilst pilots of average strength were able to achieve up to 30° of control wheel deflection, this produced no appreciable variation in the net flight path of the aircraft.

    Thus the removal of costly and unnecessary linkages has been possible, and the rudder has been nominated as the primary directional control. In keeping with this new philosophy, but to retain commonality for crews transitioning to the XL, additional resistance to foot pressure has been built into the rudder pedals to prevent overcontrolling in gusty conditions (defined as those in which wind velocity exceeds 3 knots).

    An outstanding feature of Islander technology has always been the adaptation of the 0-540 engine, which mounted in any other aircraft in the free world (except the Trislander) is known for its low vibration levels, so as to cause it to shake and batter the airframe, gradually crystallise the main spar, desynchronise the accompanying engine, and simulate the sound of fifty skeletons fornicating in an aluminium dustbin.

    Britten-Norman will not disclose the technology they applied in enhancing this effect in the XL, but Mr. Gribble assures us it will be perpetuated in later models and sees it as a strong selling point; "After all, the Concorde makes a lot of noise," he said, "and look how fast it goes."

    However, design documents clandestinely recovered from the Britten-Norman shredder have solved a question that has puzzled aerodynamicists and pilots for many years, disclosing that it is actually noise which causes the BN-2 to fly. The vibration set up by the engines and amplified by the airframe, in turn causes the air molecules above the wing to oscillate at atomic frequency, reducing their density and causing lift. This can be demonstrated by sudden closure of the throttles, which causes the aircraft to fall from the sky. As a result, lift is proportional to noise rather than speed, explaining amongst other things the aircraft's remarkable takeoff performance. In the driver's cab (as Gribble describes it), ergonomic measures will ensure that long-term PBN pilots' deafness does not cause inflight dozing. Orthopaedic surgeons have designed a cockpit layout and seat to maximise backache, enroute insomnia, chronic irritability, and terminal (post-flight) lethargy. Redesigned 'bullworker' elastic aileron cables, now disconnected from the control surfaces, increase pilot workload and fitness.

    Special noise retention cabin lining is an innovation on the XL, and it is hoped in later models to develop cabin noise to a level which will enable pilots to relate ear pain directly to engine power, eliminating the need for engine instruments altogether.

    We were offered an opportunity to fly the XL at Britten-Normans' developmental facility, adjacent to the Britrail tea rooms at Little Chortling. (The flight was originally to have been conducted at the Pilatus plant, but aircraft of Britten-Norman design are now prohibited from operating in Swiss airspace during the avalanche season).
    For our mission profile, the XL was loaded with fossil fuel for a standard 100 nm with Britrail reserves, carrying one pilot and nine passengers to maximise discomfort.

    Passenger loading is unchanged, the normal under-wing protrusions inflicting serious lacerations on 71% of boarding passengers, and there was the usual entertaining confusion in selecting a door appropriate to the allocated seat.

    The facility for the clothing of embarking passengers to remove oil slicks from engine cowls during loading has also been thoughtfully retained.
    Startup is standard, and taxying, as in the BN-2, is accomplished by brute force. Takeoff calculations called for a 250 decibel power setting, and the rotation force for the (neutral) C of G was calculated as 180ft/lbs of back pressure.

    Initial warning of an engine failure during takeoff is provided by a reduction in flight instrument panel vibration. Complete seizure of one engine is indicated by the momentary illusion that the engines have suddenly and inexplicably become synchronised. Otherwise, identification of the failed engine is achieved by comparing the vibration levels of the windows on either side of the cabin. (Relative passenger pallor has been found to be an unreliable guide on many BN-2 routes because of ethnic considerations).

    Shortly after takeoff the XL's chief test pilot, Capt. "Muscles" Mulligan, demonstrated the extent to which modem aeronautical design has left the BN-2 untouched; he simulated pilot incapacitation by slumping forward onto the control column, simultaneously applying full right rudder and bleeding from the ears. The XL, like its predecessor, demonstrated total control rigidity and continued undisturbed.

    Power was then reduced to 249 decibels for cruise, and we carried out some comparisons of actual flight performance with graph predictions.
    At 5000' and ISA, we achieved a vibration amplitude of 500 CPS and 240 decibels, for a fuel flow of 210 lb/hr, making the BN-2 XL the most efficient converter of fuel to noise since the Titan rocket.

    Exploring the constant noise-variable speed and constant speed-variable noise concepts, we found that in a VNE dive, vibration reached its design maximum at 1000 CPS, at which point the limiting factor is the emulsification of human tissue. The catatonic condition of long term BN-2 pilots is attributed to this syndrome, which commences in the cerebral cortex and spreads outwards.

    We asked Capt. Mulligan what he considered the outstanding features of the XL. He cupped his hand behind his car and shouted. "Whazzat?"
    We returned to Britten-Norman field convinced that the XL model retains the marque's most memorable features, while showing some significant and worthwhile regressions.

    Pilatus/Britten-Norman are however not resting on their laurels. Plans are already advanced for the three-engined Trislander XL, and noise tunnel testing has commenced. The basis of preliminary design and performance specifications is that lift increases as the square of noise, and as the principle of acoustic lift is further developed, a later five-engined vertical takeoff model is another possibility.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    Growler!!! wrote: »
    Found this on another forum in regard to a replacement for the Air Corps Cessnas. It's long but brought a smile:D

    Probably the best contribution I've seen on that forum which is generally a cesspit of sour grapes and armchair generals.

    Very good all the same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭Bsal




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,189 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    From what i heard over the last few days, quite a number of these contractors are not staying around.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,774 ✭✭✭Bsal


    smurfjed wrote: »
    From what i heard over the last few days, quite a number of these contractors are not staying around.

    Oh it's that bad?


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