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Suspension experience & pics (Not for the squeamish!)
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RhoDoDenDron wrote: »Let's take population size out of the equation and just talk about ratio
The UK has a more diverse population than Ireland, which leads to a more positive attitude towards body mods from "regular folk" due to higher exposure to them. Bit like how I get less stares in Dublin than in, say, Monaghan.
However, if you say that 5% of people in the UK are into suspension, we're looking at a lower percentage over here in Ireland. Quite simply, less of our population has been exposed to such things, so it would be a lot more shocking to a random person off the street.
It's not that it's not still niche, it's just that it's a more well-know niche in other countries. Ireland is very slow-moving in changing its stance on piercings in general, leaving suspension aside.
But why does the UK have a more diversive population due to its size and population in the first place
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Im sure it be the same reactions to piercings to say from London to I don't know rural areas in England. I don't think Ireland is alone in this and to label this is Ireland syndrome is wrong. People the world over are accepting and judgmental of tattoo's piercings and body mod's regardless of were you go people will be people, If your in any way different form the crowd people will judge rightly or wrongly, and the more niche you go the more you offend some peoples sensibilities.
Anyway let keep it on topic before we drag this to far of coarse
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Keep us up to date paulboothfan
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I would say it'd be nowhere near 5% in the UK either to be perfectly honest, the ratio would possibly be a little higher than here, but not by much. As Marty said, if you have a bigger population pool to draw from, then you are more likely to have success when running more niche events than when you're trying to do something similar with a vastly lower population! The population of London alone is around 8.17 million people, vs the 1.27 million for Dublin.
I really do think that while there will be lulls in the conversation here, if you keep it updated, people will keep checking it and posting here.
You said yourself that you were struggling to find other threads on the topic. That would continue to be the case unless this thread was created!
I know I'm interested in seeing more and hearing how you get on with it, though I'd also never go for it myself!0 -
DamoElDiablo wrote: »I would say it'd be nowhere near 5% in the UK either to be perfectly honest, the ratio would possibly be a little higher than here, but not by much. As Marty said, if you have a bigger population pool to draw from, then you are more likely to have success when running more niche events than when you're trying to do something similar with a vastly lower population! The population of London alone is around 8.17 million people, vs the 1.27 million for Dublin.
No, I don't think it'd be 5% either, I just created that for argument's sake. Should've been clearer
I don't want to drag this off topic, but the UK is more tolerant of piercings. Even my friend who recently lived over in the UK for a few years, has nose, eyebrow and lip pierced, said she immediately noticed that she got a lot more stares and dirty looks once she came back to Ireland. You've only to watch tv and look at the likes of the US to see that over there body modification isn't an "alternative" sub-culture, it's just another large, recognised group of people. Yes, the higher population is what causes diversity, but that still means that Ireland is less accepting. Maybe there's exponential growth, but Ireland is still is the low end of the range.0 -
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Grainne Seoige does ring a bell alright, that it may have been.
Like I said, memory is a bit foggy on it so I may have remembered details incorrectly. I do remember it being a sh!te depiction on body mods to a certain extent mind you
Edit, that's the one Must remind myself on it. 0 -
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Yes and no. A lot of people will have their first suspension behind closed doors so to speak. Mine will be private as well. I'm going to be nervous enough as it is without strangers gathering around to look at the freak:D Maybe 1 or 2 friends(my dad has shown a morbid curiosity as well) will come in. From what I've read your emotions can be all over the place, I read about a giant of a man breaking down in tears of euphoria simply because of what he achieved. So the first one will be personal.Would I be right in saying that you'd have to be invited to a suspension event?
Would love to read more as you go through with this PBF. What's the next step? Do you try 4 hooks the next time, or just 2 hooks in the lower back on their own? How much preparation do you have to do before getting attached to the rig? Is the rig just a pulley and lever system? Do the piercings damage the tattoo on your back, would it need to be touched up?
However, I know that the Twisted Pepper bar on Abbey Street do suspension nights every few months where anyone can watch. I definitely want to attend one as well just to get a better sense of the occasion and theater they create. Your best bet is to look for "pmpsuspension" on Facebook. They'll advertise it all there and they have some great photos etc
I'm still not sure about the next step. I might get 2 in the same place again but try push myself further or I might get all 4 across the shoulder blades to see how different that feels.
Yeah the rig is basically just a pulley system. Pulleys help lessen the effort needed to lift you and provide a great deal of control in raising the weight smoothly. There's a lot of preperation involved with the rig. They guys need to check all the attachment points, all the ropes, all the carabiners etc. They need to get your hook location sorted to minimise stress. They really have to do an amazing amount of work. I simply turn up in good health and that's it.
The marks left behind from the hooks are tiny dots, I'll try get a pic while they're still fresh to show ya. Unless you look for them, you wouldn't even notice so a touch up(keep those thoughts clean) is a personal choice.
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There are many different reasons to do it. Have you heard of a film A Man Called Horse? It's one of the most well-know suspensions. It was used as a Native-American initial ritual. Once the hooks go in and you're up off the ground, your body releases crazy endorphins, and that's basically why people do it. These endorphins can have any numbers of effect, they can cause you to laugh or cry with elation.
The hooks go different depths depending on where on the body, but I couldn't tell you exactly where. Depending on the type of suspension and the weight of the person, different amounts of hooks and different thicknesses will be used. There's a chance they can rip, but this only happens when the suspension practitioner doesn't know what they're doing. As PBF has said ,the rig is quite complex and every part is double-checked and completely sterile.
As for how people figured it out? Well, I don't think anyone alive can answer that with anything other than speculation 0 -
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Just want to offer an apology for my initial hostility at moving this thread. With almost 900 views as of this post, my fears the thread wouldn't get noticed were premature.DamoElDiablo wrote: »Split this out into it's own thread to protect those that don't like this kind of thing, and so that you guys can engage in as much chat about it as you want instead of it being confined to the "Show you mine" thread!
Looks great! It's not something I would ever do, but I still find it fascinating!
Hopefully the thread can kick on and thrive. With a show hopefully coming up soon and my own progression towards a full suspension, I hope we can keep the thread updated. I would also like to encourage anyone else with photos or stories to contribute and keep this going0 -
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Update time! I bumped into Séan today (PMP) and was chatting about suspension a bit. A few people I know have enquired about weight limits, and he says there really are none. He's seen 20st (280lb/127kg) guys go up on one hook, so it's really a matter of how they're placed, etc. He says if someone is really heavy then they can just use more hooks and distribute the weight.
Second thing we were chatting about it price. Now, he's been chatting to me since January pretty much about trying to lower prices for suspensions. The more people they can do in one session, the cheaper it'll be. For really private sessions you're looking at 250, but the next session will most likely to between 150 and 200, although if he can get a lot it may be cheaper. He was initially looking to do them even cheaper but that hasn't worked out.
Now, he doesn't know the exact date yet but he's meeting people today about it and he says he'll drop me a message when he has anything solid. And of course, when I get info, I'll pass it on to you guys here! 0 -
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