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DM-ICE wrote: »

It would be interesting if Barrett wins it since he has really done nothing interesting for a long time.

Barrett has lost alot of his credibility though.

Has that stupid looking beard, lost about 20lb, has a terrible entrance music, replaced Wasteland with a crappy elbow for a finisher, lost to The Miz at Mania (albeit a pre-show), etc.

rovert

There's a rumour going around started by Court Baurer that Vince McMahon has gone off the Shield.

We have received reports that the situation became so tense at last weeks Raw that many in the company thought Vince was about to have a breakdown. Apparently Triple H is very high on The Shield and has been pushing hard for their involvement in a big angle this summer, Vince however it is said is not a very big Shield fan at the moment due to the disrespectful way he believes one of them conducts himself backstage, some believe it is possibly Seth Rollins who Vince feels is disrespectful due to a recent incident where Rollins didn't shake Vince'ss hand.

Vince may have ribbed them on the square in the segment below. Vince shaking their hands kind of like that skit where CM Punk smelt booze on Serena Deeb to send her a public warning about her real life drinking:

Also two weeks ago the Cranky Vince account tweeted this:

rovert

Bryan Alvarez:

There was heat on the Shield in recent weeks. It was said that Rollins and Reigns were the two the office was upset with. I don't know what happened with Rollins but CrankyVince on Twitter (not the best source, but here and there he does have extremely accurate information) claimed it had to do with Rollins not knowing how to shake hands properly. That sounds absolutely stupid, but "improper protocol" such as that has led to heat with guys in the past. Again, I cannot confirm that, but I do know that others within WWE believe it was something petty like that, and one source believed the issue was between Rollins and Big Show. Another WWE source said the issue with Reigns was that there was a house show tag match which Reigns and Randy Orton were in, and they botched up a spot and got into a shouting match about it backstage. A guy in Reigns' spot arguing with a guy in Randy Orton's spot is a great way to get massive heat on you. Regardless of what happened, we were told that there was a power struggle of sorts in that Vince McMahon wanted people punished and Triple H didn't want them punished, so he was fighting to keep them strong on TV. I don't know if things have changed, but another good source in WWE claimed that while there was heat, the pre-show match with Shield vs. Usos was so good that pretty much all the heat dissipated afterwards.

Tinie

Since cranky vince has had some correct info from time to time going by the article rovert posted, then any ideas who could be behind the twitter account?

Bounty Hunter

Tinie wrote: »

Since cranky vince has had some correct info from time to time going by the article rovert posted, then any ideas who could be behind the twitter account?

tbh id guess there would be a huge number of people that would know what angry vince posted. Wouldnt be shocked if a fan posted similar tbh although Angry Vince has obviously some sort of slight insider scoop

gnfnrhead

A guy in Reigns' spot arguing with a guy in Randy Orton's spot is a great way to get massive heat on you.

So it doesnt matter what the issue is, the main eventer is automatically right?

rovert

Tinie wrote: »

Since cranky vince has had some correct info from time to time going by the article rovert posted, then any ideas who could be behind the twitter account?

A bunch of ex-Creative people Court Bauer, Alex Greenfield, Andrew Goldstein types.

gnfnrhead wrote: »

So it doesnt matter what the issue is, the main eventer is automatically right?

More just the veteran. Just rules of Wrestling. The veteran is always right. No talking back especially publicly.

cian68

Punishing guys on screen doesn't help the WWE at all, unless Austin wins King of the Ring.

pitythefool

starviewadams wrote: »

I don't find Cena particularly boring or stale,just the lack of credable opponents for him to wrestle.

They ballsed Ryback's push up months ago,booked him like a chump at Mania,and now he's parachuted into a title feud.If he'd been properly built up to this feud there'd be nothing boring about it imo.

Kofi/Cesaro/Sheamus/Orton I'd classify as boring at the moment.

imo, they are keeping him on top as he is a money machione for kids, and the show suffers because of it,

we will see how the Bryan match goes but i already see, Bryan stealing the show and Cena with a miraculous come back

JP Liz V1

Looks like a break up is coming soon so which one do you think will be first to win a world title?

gnfnrhead

Ambrose has been the star of the group when it comes to singles action. I'll be very surprised if it isnt him.

SimonQuinlank

Reigns has the size and look WWE loves to push,with the added bonus of being a competent worker.Proper finisher established too.

Ambrose looks and acts like a lad who'd ask you for a few cent for a hostel and hasn't impressed me as a singles guy so far,bar his matches with Bryan,but everyone has a good match with him.

Rollins will be another bland Dolph Ziggler sort once The Shield run's it course.

JP Liz V1

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Ambrose has been the star of the group when it comes to singles action. I'll be very surprised if it isnt him.

At the start I would have said Ambrose but Rollins has impressed me more now, would love a feud between these two

Reigns could be the new Batista :P

Charisteas

I could see them get a run as faces before they do split, maybe they turn against the Authority and face The Wyatt Family down the road sometime, maybe at Mania. Can see the three of them as a unit dominating a large portion of the Royal Rumble too. I don't see the need to break them up any time soon.

CSF

SimonQuinlank wrote: »

Reigns has the size and look WWE loves to push,with the added bonus of being a competent worker.Proper finisher established too.

Ambrose looks and acts like a lad who'd ask you for a few cent for a hostel and hasn't impressed me as a singles guy so far,bar his matches with Bryan,but everyone has a good match with him.

Rollins will be another bland Dolph Ziggler sort once The Shield run's it course.

Nothing bland about Rollins or Ziggler. Both put together excellent in-ring work, and both have characters that WWE could do a lot with if they so wished. The big problem with Reigns I would think is that I could never really see him as a believable face and that might lead to him getting boring as a singles competitor after a while.

Moneymaker

All of them are capable of winning a world title imo. They all have their own strengths and weaknesses. Reigns has the look and a truly brutal looking spear. Rollins is a tremendous worker and Ambrose is just a great all arounder.

I think the time to split the group is coming alright.

CSF

Moneymaker wrote: »

All of them are capable of winning a world title imo. They all have their own strengths and weaknesses. Reigns has the look and a truly brutal looking spear. Rollins is a tremendous worker and Ambrose is just a great all arounder.

I think the time to split the group is coming alright.

Why though? They haven't even begun to get boring in the unit that made them so popular. Plenty of mileage in The Shield yet. We haven't even seen them as a face yet which I always expected we would.

DM_7

CSF wrote: »

Nothing bland about Rollins or Ziggler. Both put together excellent in-ring work, and both have characters that WWE could do a lot with if they so wished. The big problem with Reigns I would think is that I could never really see him as a believable face and that might lead to him getting boring as a singles competitor after a while.

Reigns is working as the muscle and the muscle only so has not attempted to or been asked to show much in the way of personality. He could very well surprise you down the road.

It so long a since a faction was out together that was worthwhile it would be a shame if they split the Shield up anytime soon. I hope the Shield end up with a WWE champ or WHChamp in their ranks before they split. A face run as well. Also having than back has brought Japan style, epic 6 man tag matches into WWE that have made multiple shows really good.

DM_7

CSF wrote: »

Nothing bland about Rollins or Ziggler. Both put together excellent in-ring work, and both have characters that WWE could do a lot with if they so wished. The big problem with Reigns I would think is that I could never really see him as a believable face and that might lead to him getting boring as a singles competitor after a while.

Reigns is working as the muscle and the muscle only so has not attempted to or been asked to show much in the way of personality. He could very well surprise you down the road.

It so long a since a faction was out together that was worthwhile it would be a shame if they split the Shield up anytime soon. I hope the Shield end up with a WWE champ or WHChamp in their ranks before they split. A face run as well. Also having than back has brought Japan style, epic 6 man tag matches into WWE that have made multiple shows really good.

CSF

DM-ICE wrote: »

Reigns is working as the muscle and the muscle only so has not attempted to or been asked to show much in the way of personality. He could very well surprise you down the road.

It so long a since a faction was out together that was worthwhile it would be a shame if they split the Shield up anytime soon. I hope the Shield end up with a WWE champ or WHChamp in their ranks before they split. A face run as well. Also having than back has brought Japan style, epic 6 man tag matches into WWE that have made multiple shows really good.

You might be right but I haven't even seen hints of it yet.

SimonQuinlank

CSF wrote: »

Nothing bland about Rollins or Ziggler. Both put together excellent in-ring work, and both have characters that WWE could do a lot with if they so wished. The big problem with Reigns I would think is that I could never really see him as a believable face and that might lead to him getting boring as a singles competitor after a while.

I'll give Rollins the benefit of the doubt,but Ziggler is the definition of bland.Wearing colourful t-shirts,saying ''whatevs'' in promos and flopping about like a dying fish in the ring does not a character make.

Reigns has presence and charisma,could easily see him making it as heel or face as a singles competitor.

CSF

SimonQuinlank wrote: »

I'll give Rollins the benefit of the doubt,but Ziggler is the definition of bland.Wearing colourful t-shirts,saying ''whatevs'' in promos and flopping about like a dying fish in the ring does not a character make.

Reigns has presence and charisma,could easily see him making it as heel or face as a singles competitor.

Ziggler has great in-ring ability and has always carried his character well in the limited opportunities he has been given

DM_7

Reigns does have a really good presence about him even in his restricted role. Once they don't stick him in a suit and trynto make him into the thoroughbred persona he was starting on NXT he will have a chance.

Thoroughbred could work as a nickname and play up his background alright but not the rest of that persona

Mr.Nice Guy

I think Reigns has been the one who has impressed me most. When I first saw him on NXT I thought the name they gave him was beyond goofy. I saw this guy with an awful suit calling himself Roman and thought this guy is not leaving developmental any time soon. The transformation into Roman Reigns: the intense, ass-kicking heavy of The Shield has been brilliant. I think he was the one they were most concerned about too due to inexperience worries but he has delivered big time.

I think there's something special about him and I could see him reaching Batista levels if they were to push him well.

rovert

Reign's face is tremendous:

gerrybbadd

He is very good, especially as of late. The subtle facial expressions he made when Ambrose was talking about being the only champ left in the Shield were class.

I can see him breaking out as a face, especially after the way he was gonna stand up against 3 others, before the rest pulled him out of the ring during the week.

JP Liz V1

The feeling this week is that when Roman Reigns does his babyface turn and split from the Shield, likely in February, that he'll be replaced with a new guy in the group. The name Mason Ryan has been thrown around as a possibility

Someone from Nxt would be better maybe Leo Kruger

gnfnrhead

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Someone from Nxt would be better maybe Leo Kruger

Callihan would be a good fit. Solomon Crowe or whatever his new name is.

beakerjoe

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Callihan would be a good fit. Solomon Crowe or whatever his new name is.

I think so too. Though I do think his new Hacker gimmick could be great too if done correctly.

Moneymaker

Well, it looks like it's the end for the Shield.

How have you enjoyed their run?
How would rate them against other stables?
Highlights?
Where do you think the three guys can go with their career and how would you book them?

Insideandout

I loved the Shield during their run as a stable, sure the constant 6 man tags week in week out became a bit lackluster after a while but the character development each member received was quite exciting to watch unfold.

I could see both Ambrose and Reigns going right into the main event given the right feud but I'd like to see Rollins built up somewhat, maybe with a US title run.

GTR63

At least with what happened on Raw it brought peoples attention onto Rollins for a change.
As far as a legacy goes. I'd put my own money down already now for a DVD compilation of their best matches.

TripleAce

Breaking up the Shield is a long term suicide.

SureYWouldntYa

I'd love to see them as a face group for a while

A Primal Nut

TripleAce wrote: »

Breaking up the Shield is a long term suicide.

They sort of have been in their feud with the Wyatt's. They haven't been doing anything particularly heelish of late.

The only negative thing is that at the beginning there was still storyline "who is behind the shield" "why are they helping Punk" etc including that segment with Paul Heyman which we never found out if it was real or not. But no real explanation, just randomly attacking the faces.

Apart from that, an excellent group, great way to introduce guys from NXT and all three have different styles and could be future main eventers. They have had some excellent matches. My favourite was probably their first match against Ryback, Bryan and Kane at TLC 2012 I believe.

D-FENS

A Primal Nut wrote: »

The only negative thing is that at the beginning there was still storyline "who is behind the shield" "why are they helping Punk" etc including that segment with Paul Heyman which we never found out if it was real or not. But no real explanation, just randomly attacking the faces.

Where they not just hired by Heyman & Punk to help defend the title run, same way they were hired guns for the Authority? And the random attacks were to get noticed, like the Nexus only better.

A reunion, as faces, à la DX is already a certainty, could be a few years away but they are young enough
No way WWE weren’t going to cash in on Reigns’ obvious appeal and I’m dying to see Ambrose as a main event heel.
Looks like they want to ensure Rollins is up there with them, he definitely has a Jeff Hardy like appeal that could work, and with added actual mic skills

One thing that will take some getting used to is not seeing them in the swat gear…

beakerjoe

D-FENS wrote: »

Where they not just hired by Heyman & Punk to help defend the title run, same way they were hired guns for the Authority? And the random attacks were to get noticed, like the Nexus only better.

A reunion, as faces, à la DX is already a certainty, could be a few years away but they are young enough
No way WWE weren’t going to cash in on Reigns’ obvious appeal and I’m dying to see Ambrose as a main event heel.
Looks like they want to ensure Rollins is up there with them, he definitely has a Jeff Hardy like appeal that could work, and with added actual mic skills

One thing that will take some getting used to is not seeing them in the swat gear…

I cant imagine them without it now. Id say Rollins will be ok but the other two could look a tad/ a lot generic based on what they wear.

Personally they have been booked great and Afte rover a year of being a faction (most than most factions in the WWE recently), they being broken up in the right way. A slow build that could erupt any time soon. personally the WWE have 3 ready made upper mid card wrestlers waiting to fill gaps left after WM by Trips, Taker and Brock.

With Cesaro on the verge of a push, Daniel Bryan being over the moon and these 3 guys becoming big time players, the future post Wrestlemania can be very bright if handled right.

Qs

I'll miss how quickly they worked together, its not something you see much on WWE and I don't think they'll be allowed to work at such a high tempo in singles matches. Obviously Reigns is set for big things, I just hope they don't pull back on him like they usually do with their up and coming guys. Ambrose looks like he can be a great heel, I'm really looking forward to his promos on his own future. Rollins is lacking a bit in the promo and personality department though, he's great in ring and he can fill a void on the roster for an exciting high flyer that hasn't really been there since Jeff decided drugs were better than WWE. I just wonder would be better off in a tag team for another year or two.

JP Liz V1

I see them all as future world champs


Seth Rollins reminds me of Jeff Hardy and if pushed correctly as a face might achieve what Jeff did in WWE

Qs

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I see them all as future world champs


Seth Rollins reminds me of Jeff Hardy and if pushed correctly as a face might achieve what Jeff did in WWE

I think he has that vibe too but I wonder with the lack of high spots nowadays if anyone will be able to get over to the extent Jeff Hardy did using that style.

grames_bond

I think Rollins is better than Jeff on the mic too, he is no great shakes but has potential!

Diabhal Beag

Always thought Rollins would be a letdown on the mic but he really improved a lot from what I saw of his ROH run. What he does when he's out of focus is top notch too. Kinda glad he's getting a bit of focus too because when Shield started out we all just figured Ambrose and Reigns would standout. Not to mention how great he's been in-ring.

DM_7

Rollins has improved more than the others for his talking skills. I don't think they will hold him back at all. As said its great to see him getting more focus these days.

jaykhunter

Merged the two recent Shield threads.

Yeah Monday's the most prominent Rollins has looked in the WWE. I'm really happy to see it as he's a great wrestler and the focus has generally been on leader Ambrose and then breakout star Reigns. Also got to meet Shield when they were here last year and Rollins was by the nicest/talkative of the three, seems like a lovely dude.

Moneymaker

Yeah I really liked him too, sound chap. It will be hard for him to be WWE Champion but if he keeps performing like he is and develops on the mic it's possible.

It's almost like WWE have said to him, everyone talks about Ambrose and Reigns. Make them talk about you. And he has.

gnfnrhead

I'd still rather they kept them together for another while yet. They have tonnes of mileage left and are vastly superior to any of the other trios in WWE right now. Keep them together (as babyfaces) until later this year, then split them up. Could end up having the feud going to Wrestlemania if they time it right. A Wrestlemania match this year would feel very last minute.

DM_7

What do you do with a babyface trio over 12 months that makes them interesting?

They could take on the authority I suppose but that would overlap with Bryan etc.

gnfnrhead

DM-ICE wrote: »

What do you do with a babyface trio over 12 months that makes them interesting?

They could take on the authority I suppose but that would overlap with Bryan etc.

After Wrestlemania, Bryan should be involved with Batista. Simply dont have Batista join the Authority and both feuds can remain separate. Authority would need to start getting members who are actually active wrestlers though.

DM_7

Rollins did a really good job on Smackdown and proved that talking isn't a problem for him.

I am not sure what is next for them now, I find myself thinking it would be a shame if they don't get a run as a face team. Crowd are really reacting to them as a group. I just don't see who they can take on.

gnfnrhead

DM-ICE wrote: »

Rollins did a really good job on Smackdown and proved that talking isn't a problem for him.

I am not sure what is next for them now, I find myself thinking it would be a shame if they don't get a run as a face team. Crowd are really reacting to them as a group. I just don't see who they can take on.

3 Man Band, bay-bah!