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If not for us the archaeology would be lost anyway...

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  • #182
    Mountainsandh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    slowburner wrote: »
    The laws most certainly are not there to serve all citizens.
    No law is enacted to accommodate the offender. The law is enacted to punish the offender.


    There is no 'half way house'. The state either protects the archaeology of this island or it does not.

    Slowburner that is assuming straightaway that anyone with a metal detector is an offender. This is my point : not everyone with a MD is an offender.

    The state can protect archaeology while allowing MD to be used in instances where no archeological matter is involved. That's what it does, and it's fitting.

    If I wish to open up an attraction for youngsters in my garden, consisting of a giant sandbox where I would hide play metal treasures, and provide said youngsters with MDs to find them, I can legally do so, as far as I understand.


  • #183
    jfk1977
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭jfk1977


    In fairness this subject should be discussed in the legal section of this site as for obvious reasons opinions can be biased on this thread.


  • #184
    robp
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭robp


    jfk1977 wrote: »
    Following this thread with interest as I currently work for a legal firm where this topic was recently discussed.

    Our companies point of view at the time on this legislation is that if someone is using a MD away from a national monument and not searching for archaeology items they are not breaking the law and do not require a license. To presume they are and to try prosecute based on a presumption would be very unwise.
    No one questions this. There are two problem though. How does one know what is archaeological before its dug up and ruined? The second problem (and the legal one) is the disagreement on what is an archaeological object. Many mental detectorists search for coins. I have no problem with them searching for recent coins but what about a 300 year old coin or medieval coins. I know for a fact that Irish detectorists are digging up medieval coins. That is not acceptable.
    jfk1977 wrote: »
    In fairness this subject should be discussed in the legal section of this site as for obvious reasons opinions can be biased on this thread.
    Archaeologist have a far better grasp of the National monuments act then your average legal buff.


  • #185
    slowburner
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    This thread has become circular and is no longer worthwhile.

    The laws are clear and stickied at the top of the forum.
    In the event that amendments to the laws on metal detecting are made the thread may be reopened.

    Let's all get back to archaeology and let's leave metal detecting out of the forum for the time being.


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