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Local flooding issue, DLRCoCo not interested.

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  • 30-04-2013 10:14am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 4


    Hi,
    About 6 houses in our road have a recent problem with severe flooding of our gardens, DLRCoCo are trying to just pass the buck so I'm looking for a bit of advise as to where we should go to get some action.

    Over the past few years, there have been increasing drainage issues in our road. Whenever there is heavy rain, poor drainage is causing flooding in the rear gardens of several houses, we can have about 18" to 24" of standing water, staying for about 24 hours.
    The flooding is becoming more frequent and more serious and is extending to houses which were previously unaffected.
    One neighbour has lived in the road for more than fifty years and says that the problem is recent, she had no problems for about 45 years. Either something has changed which is causing far more water to accumulate in our area, or drains are blocked preventing the water dispersing.

    During the last serious downfall of rain about 6 weeks ago members of the Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council drainage team visited the area twice and viewed the flooding. They were surprised at the seriousness and widespread nature of the issue but basically said since the flooding was on our property, not theirs, it is our problem. This is obviously not the case, there is no way we can dig up the council's drains and reroute the water flow.

    Does anyone have any idea as to who we should contact to get some level of interest or traction? We'd obviously prefer not to go the legal route unless we have to.
    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,524 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    wheres the water coming from?

    have you looked at putting in French Drains.

    I'm failing to see how this is a council problem. has there being any new buildings built, car parks, astro turfs, etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭homer911


    Are you anywhere near Pottery Road?

    My Dad lives around there and he dug trenches in his garden, filled them with stones and topped them over with soil. It didnt eradicate the problem, but its much less frequent now..


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SimonG


    ted1 wrote: »
    wheres the water coming from?

    have you looked at putting in French Drains.

    I'm failing to see how this is a council problem. has there being any new buildings built, car parks, astro turfs, etc

    The water is rainwater.
    It's the council's problem because there has been a shift in the way they water flows underground and they have not adequate drainage to take the rainwater away.
    We are fairly close to Dun Laoghaire Golf Course so it could have something to do with that but we have no way of proving this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SimonG


    homer911 wrote: »
    Are you anywhere near Pottery Road?

    My Dad lives around there and he dug trenches in his garden, filled them with stones and topped them over with soil. It didnt eradicate the problem, but its much less frequent now..
    Not near Pottery road, no.

    One of the neighbours has tried this, but it hasn't helped as it seems that the water table is so high when it rains heavily that the water has nowhere to drain away to.
    It needs the council to provide more drainage so the water has somewhere to flow to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,524 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Well that's the reason the problem. Dun laoighre golf course would have taken the water, but now that its being built over the water no longer gets soaked up by the ground as its being concreted over.
    See if you can find the EIS for the development at the golf course and see what it says about flooding.

    heres the original planning application

    http://planning.dlrcoco.ie/swiftlg/apas/run/WPHAPPDETAIL.DisplayUrl?theApnID=D09A/0908&theTabNo=2&backURL=<a href=wphappcriteria.display?paSearchKey=1095935>Search Criteria</a> > <a href='wphappsearchres.displayResultsURL?ResultID=1203640%26StartIndex=1%26SortOrder=rgndat:desc%26DispResultsAs=WPHAPPSEARCHRES%26BackURL=<a href=wphappcriteria.display?paSearchKey=1095935>Search Criteria</a>'>Search Results</a>#

    if you contact the planning department they shoudl have the EIS, in it they shoudl identity floodign as a risk adn what thye plan to do to prevent it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,080 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    There was a large drainage pipe installed down Lower Mounttown in advance of the Golf Course house building works to deal with predicted run-off as well as waste water, there is a natural basin in the vicinity of McCormacks which could be experiencing a problem.

    There is a way of proving your problem, ie by having a hydrodynamic survey carried out by an engineer/surveyor. Given the fact that development will continue on both sides of the golf course lands for the next 10 years, the problem could only get worse so you might be advised to pursue it now before further building takes place. Get the engineers report, have him compare it to the planning application drainage element, and push it with the Council Planning if its not sufficient.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    Get onto your favourite local Councillor, who should be able to help in lighting a fire under the relevant officials.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    And nobody seems to bothered when age old front gardens are being paved over (MANY WITHOUT planning permission and NO enforcement from sleeping DLRDCOCO.)

    This irresponsible practice has not helped.

    Coupled with the fact that, regularly where I live in Dun Laoghaire the drains are covered over with every-day grime and of course the cursed plastic bottles and tossed away JP blue cig packets. Most residents ignore it, never bother to ring the council to alert them to the fact that the drains outside or near their homes are blocked, and gawd forbid they might actually lift the odd piece of litter themselves and put in the recycling bin etc.

    Pro action people.


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