You're only 1 among 7 billion...

ScumLord

DaDumTish wrote: »

THIS ^^^

once your realise it is all a super conciousness imagining the whole lot
it makes alot more sense , and gets eaiser to play the game.

nothing actually exists ,except conciousness.

The universe existed long before consciousness.

Capt'n Midnight

ScumLord wrote: »

The universe existed long before consciousness.

But the anthropomorphic principle says it only exists because of consciousness

Ruudi_Mentari

What is your favourite Rowntree's Revel?

.. or least favourite, as the case may be

Fox_In_Socks

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

But the anthropomorphic principle says it only exists because of consciousness

Tsk.

YOU only exist because of my conciousness. Now, be nice or I shall go to sleep and you will disappear.

af_thefragile

looking_around wrote: »

No it doesn't matter, now you can say, so what and live? or be miserable that you are alive for nothing, your choice.

That's true.

I'ld rather go on the ride and see where I end up than get off at the next stop and call it a day. Then I'll never know where the road goes.

nocoverart

OP, If you exclude the Chinese and the Indian folk it doesn't seem that daunting. Lets face it, apart from food neither of those nations have giving the rest of the world that much.

Capt'n Midnight

Fox_In_Socks wrote: »

Tsk.

YOU only exist because of my conciousness. Now, be nice or I shall go to sleep and you will disappear.

your conciousness can't predict what the rest of us do , ergo there is more to the universe than your concious self

if it's your unconscious self you'd still want to be careful in case you wake yourself up and the dream ends.

Capt'n Midnight

nocoverart wrote: »

OP, If you exclude the Chinese and the Indian folk it doesn't seem that daunting. Lets face it, apart from food neither of those nations have giving the rest of the world that much.

Apart from the height of the Roman empire and the Industrial Revolution to today China has been the major manufacturing centre of the world for the last three thousand years or so.



Indians gave us zero.

Which in maths terms is a big thing oddly enough.

Oh yeah didn't the Celts come from India ?

Honest opinion

"We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special."

Stephen Hawking

Ruudi_Mentari

We are a pretty distinct nation, I mean I couldn't show you where most countries are because they're on these big continents and I don't know really know where to draw the line... more like pin the tail on the continental donkey tbh. Blindfolded, of course

whereas here we are, an island, yet at the centre of it all... or are our maps regionalized thus making it appear so

nocoverart

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Apart from the height of the Roman empire and the Industrial Revolution to today China has been the major manufacturing centre of the world for the last three thousand years or so.



Indians gave us zero.

Which in maths terms is a big thing oddly enough.

Oh yeah didn't the Celts come from India ?

I meant more on the lines of modern society. I'm way too ignorant to appreciate historical facts.

Fox_In_Socks

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

your conciousness can't predict what the rest of us do , ergo there is more to the universe than your concious self

Yes, it can. It predicts that you will metabolise and excrete material, pushing liquids and semi solids around your bodies till your respective deaths.

Capt'n Midnight

Fox_In_Socks wrote: »

Yes, it can. It predicts that you will metabolise and excrete material, pushing liquids and semi solids around your bodies till your respective deaths.

NOOOOOoooooo !

We'll give you a fair trial

If... you.. weigh... the same as a duck,... you're made of wood.

and we'll then burn you for witchcraft.

Albert E. Arkwright

Ruudi_Mentari wrote: »

We are a pretty distinct nation, I mean I couldn't show you where most countries are because they're on these big continents and I don't know really know where to draw the line... more like pin the tail on the continental donkey tbh. Blindfolded, of course

whereas here we are, an island, yet at the centre of it all... or are our maps regionalized thus making it appear so

You need to travel more

i57dwun4yb1pt8

ScumLord wrote: »

The universe existed long before consciousness.

wrong

the universe does not exist in anyway .

consiouness is the only thing that can be infinite.

Potentially Toxic

Of course nothing matters. We'll all be long forgotten in 160 years time.

So what, your purpose is to enjoy your life as much as possible.

Tom_Cruise

Thanks OP, in bad enough as it but thought id hang around for the summer but seeming as though in just a little speck,i think ill depart early.

General General

Our Universe is a fragment spun off from one of the panels of the protective shield of a booster rocket that helped launch one of the prototypes of the real Universe.

It's our Universe that's insignificant, not us.

Duggy747

DaDumTish wrote: »

wrong

the universe does not exist in anyway .

The universe is very real, it's contents which are inside you and I that gives us, on this little planet, life.

consiouness is the only thing that can be infinite.

Says who, Deepak Chopra?

Peter The Pedo

You are only 1 among 7 bazillion on a macro scale, but on a micro scale you are yourself an independent entity that allows the larger system to function, exist and expand which gives yourself and itself meaning... Whatever system it may be, family, social, environmental etc. etc.

The universe and everything in it relies on it's micro features as a self regulating body = Fractal universe.

demakinz

The odds that we are born at all is pretty astonishing.

Probability of boy meeting girl: one in 20,000

Probability of same boy knocking up same girl: one in 2000

Probability of right sperm meeting right egg: one in 400 quadrillion

Probability of every one of your ancestors reproducing successfully: one in 10 ^45,000

Probability of your being born: one in 10^2,685,000

So the chances of you being born in the first place is zero.

myhorse

And when you think of the 7 billion in context of the Universe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot
Carl Sagan
From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of any particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us.
On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives.
The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity – in all this vastness – there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

Dempsey

af_thefragile wrote: »

Why do you think your life matters?

If it weren't for the small 2-3 people who care about you and depend on you, those who make up your family, how would your being make any difference to humanity at large? Your words, opinions, actions and intentions are all ultimately worthless on the grand scheme of things. The ant colony wouldn't even notice the disappearance of one worker...

This is the attitude from people that are happy coasting along, statistics will save me from making an honest effort.

If you are motivated and single minded enough, you'll matter. Then again, define what really matters? words, opinions, actions and intentions are easily forgot. We all do things that last alot longer than that.

kippy

af_thefragile wrote: »

Why do you think your life matters?

If it weren't for the small 2-3 people who care about you and depend on you, those who make up your family, how would your being make any difference to humanity at large? Your words, opinions, actions and intentions are all ultimately worthless on the grand scheme of things. The ant colony wouldn't even notice the disappearance of one worker...

A bit deep for AH, no?

Systemic Risk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70-y0AwwCOk

I'll just leave this here. Great film (Naked (1993)), this thread reminds me of it.

Napper Hawkins

myhorse wrote: »

And when you think of the 7 billion in context of the Universe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot
Carl Sagan
From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of any particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us.
On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives.
The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity – in all this vastness – there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

Well, that's no sleep for me now.

Shreddy Krueger

Have a good time , all the time.

Senna

demakinz wrote: »

The odds that we are born at all is pretty astonishing.

Probability of boy meeting girl: one in 20,000

Probability of same boy knocking up same girl: one in 2000

Probability of right sperm meeting right egg: one in 400 quadrillion

Probability of every one of your ancestors reproducing successfully: one in 10 ^45,000

Probability of your being born: one in 10^2,685,000

So the chances of you being born in the first place is zero.

That must be one ugly boy

Kichote

Albert E. Arkwright wrote: »

Exactly, hence we should be moving with the times with regard to allowing abortion as a birth control, gay marriage, euthanasia, and lowering the voting age / age of consent. Darwin taught us that it should be survival of the fittest. Winners take all.

What has that to do with anything? Gay marriage and abortion make feck all difference in the scheme of things. Legalising them is only seen as moving forward because that has been the trend in a few other blotches of land we call countries. In 1000s of years things will be so different nobody will give a damn whether or not these things were legal for us or not

mayobumblebee

we are the stuff that stars are made of

http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=52

Jesus Wept

af_thefragile wrote: »

Why do you think your life matters?

If it weren't for the small 2-3 people who care about you and depend on you, those who make up your family, how would your being make any difference to humanity at large? Your words, opinions, actions and intentions are all ultimately worthless on the grand scheme of things. The ant colony wouldn't even notice the disappearance of one worker...

/brohug