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Brock Turnpike · 12-04-2019 3:59pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

The "political" podcast on climate change, what a load of ****. Nothing new, dull and plain rubbish. I like the idea of the odd podcast on a different subject but these political podcasts are awful.

They need to stop releasing the political pods on a Friday. Nobody wants to be depressed going into the weekend.

Brock Turnpike · 12-04-2019 4:03pm

styron wrote: »

JOE.ie not balls - a better class of click harvester than Gilroy's grubby side-line.

The word "class" should never be used in the same sentence as either of those two ****e box websites.

Cienciano · 12-04-2019 7:15pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

The "political" podcast on climate change, what a load of ****. Nothing new, dull and plain rubbish. I like the idea of the odd podcast on a different subject but these political podcasts are awful.

Climate change? Think I might be deleting that right away

Utopia Parkway · 12-04-2019 7:18pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

The "political" podcast on climate change, what a load of ****. Nothing new, dull and plain rubbish. I like the idea of the odd podcast on a different subject but these political podcasts are awful.

The political pod guests have been very hit and miss. More miss than hit in fact.

Say Your Number · 12-04-2019 7:23pm

I heard your man from today's pod talking to Sean Moncrieff a few weeks ago, it's not a particulary uplifting topic, but it's hard to ignore the reality of it, the weather has been getting stranger over the last few years.

Tommy Smith who played for Liverpool has died, I remember they had him on OTB 10 years ago, he talked about how he lost disability payments because someone 'grasssssed' on him for taking a penalty at a charity event, seemed like a very angry man in general.

Arghus · 12-04-2019 8:14pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Climate change? Think I might be deleting that right away

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OldMrBrennan83 · 12-04-2019 8:27pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Climate change? Think I might be deleting that right away

Definitely an instant swipe away.

Hotblack Desiato · 12-04-2019 9:44pm

Say Your Number wrote: »

Tommy Smith who played for Liverpool has died, I remember they had him on OTB 10 years ago, he talked about how he lost disability payments because someone 'grasssssed' on him for taking a penalty at a charity event, seemed like a very angry man in general.

Sounds like a lovely bloke :rolleyes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Smith_(footballer,_born_1945)

In 1988, Smith caused controversy after stating in an interview with the author Dave Hill that Howard Gayle "suffered from a black man's attitude towards the white man. See, everybody thinks whites have an attitude towards blacks. In reality it's blacks who have a problem with the whites... I used to call Howard the 'White N****r'. Now that is a compliment. It was the only way I could find to describe that I thought he was OK." Smith then went on to comment to Hill that "I'm not prejudiced but if a coon moved in next door, I'd move, like most white people would. If my daughter came home with a n****r, I'd go mad. But I'm only being truthful and normal." Smith intended to sue Hill, but found he had no grounds to take legal action as Hill had recorded all of Smith's comments on tape during the interview.

So if it hadn't been for the tape recording, Smith would have stood up in court and denied he'd said these things, in order to get money.

Scummy.

Cienciano · 12-04-2019 10:27pm

Arghus wrote: »

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Shít we already know, a few new facts and figures. That's it.

Arghus · 12-04-2019 10:49pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Shít we already know, a few new facts and figures. That's it.

Fair enough, though I will say this guy's book has been getting a lot of press. IMO it's a bit of a coup to have him on talking about. It's pretty apocalyptic stuff.

Cienciano · 12-04-2019 11:38pm

Arghus wrote: »

Fair enough, though I will say this guy's book has been getting a lot of press. IMO it's a bit of a coup to have him on talking about. It's pretty apocalyptic stuff.

We had An Inconvenience Truth with similar stuff over 10 years ago. I agree stuff needs to be done, but I'm just not interested in listening to a podcast about it. I gave it a go, got 40 minutes in.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 13-04-2019 12:54am

Cienciano wrote: »

We had An Inconvenience Truth with similar stuff over 10 years ago. I agree stuff needs to be done, but I'm just not interested in listening to a podcast about it. I gave it a go, got 40 minutes in.

I’m sick of hearing about it. Joe rogan had a climate change lad on a few weeks ago and I barely lasted an hour and I lost the will to live. It’s been done to death as a topic. There’s only so much we as individuals can do, I mostly drive electric, when I can’t I skate electric, I recycle what I can but it’s a complete waste of time when you have whole continents that don’t give a flying fück. Therefore it’s irrelevant.

Hippo · 14-04-2019 3:41pm

I thought the climate change pod was excellent

bren2001 · 14-04-2019 9:11pm

Hippo wrote: »

I thought the climate change pod was excellent

I thought it was very good as well. Was there anything "new" in it? No but he outlines the importance of the topic very clearly. It's an incredibly important conversation to have and is not one we are really having in this country. The effects of climate change are real, they are happening now and the world is doing very little about it.

Say Your Number · 16-04-2019 2:03am

I like how Ken identifed with young Kevin De Bruyne because he stayed in his room and didn't talk to anyone.

I have no recollection of that interview they did with Delaney in 2010.

lawred2 · 16-04-2019 8:59am

Say Your Number wrote: »

I like how Ken identifed with young Kevin De Bruyne because he stayed in his room and didn't talk to anyone.

I have no recollection of that interview they did with Delaney in 2010.

that was a live show with Newstalk

Say Your Number · 16-04-2019 10:49am

Yeah I know, just saying I've no memory of it at all for some reason.

EltonJohn69 · 17-04-2019 10:32pm

should be a good one tomorrow

Cienciano · 18-04-2019 2:58pm

I'm a day behind, the bloodgate bit was good. Have to agree with Shane, the cover up and trying to hang Tom Williams was actually worse than the fake blood.

OldMrBrennan83 · 25-04-2019 10:58pm

I think I'll definitely give the domestic soccer 'coverage' a miss from now on. I should have known after the last time.

Smell the glove · 26-04-2019 5:50am

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

I think I'll definitely give the domestic soccer 'coverage' a miss from now on. I should have known after the last time.

What didn't you like? I'm a LOI fan and thought it was fine? The journalist they had on is my favourite to listen to on second captains.

OldMrBrennan83 · 26-04-2019 5:57am

Smell the glove wrote: »

What didn't you like? I'm a LOI fan and thought it was fine? The journalist they had on is my favourite to listen to on second captains.

I didn't get as far as him after their opening.

elefant · 26-04-2019 8:28am

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

I didn't get as far as him after their opening.

Thanks for wasting our time with your posts so.

26-04-2019 8:31am

Smell the glove wrote: »

What didn't you like? I'm a LOI fan and thought it was fine? The journalist they had on is my favourite to listen to on second captains.

And I'm not an LOI fan and I also thought it was fine, in fact I quite enjoyed it. Some people just have to be different.

Their excoriation of Man Utd was also quite good, going to be an interesting summer for them.

OldMrBrennan83 · 26-04-2019 8:46am

elefant wrote: »

Thanks for wasting our time with your posts so.

What are you going on about?

RedRochey · 26-04-2019 8:54am

How can you say its not worth listening to if you didn't even listen to it?

I thought it was a good chat about the league in general and how its changed recently

Cienciano · 26-04-2019 10:26am

"He dominated the midfield the same way a crèche attendant dominates a group of toddlers"

lawred2 · 26-04-2019 5:34pm

Not sure that soccer is the biggest participation sport in Ireland.

Is David Sneyd right with that?

deisedude · 26-04-2019 5:40pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Not sure that soccer is the biggest participation sport in Ireland.

Is David Sneyd right with that?

It probaby is the biggest team participation if you count unorganised games like 5 a side.

Swimming, cycling and running probably have more people doing them but are individual sports

If its organised sport then surely GAA is the biggest as its in every parish in the country!

Arghus · 26-04-2019 6:04pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Not sure that soccer is the biggest participation sport in Ireland.

Is David Sneyd right with that?

Participation sport. As people participate in it, that does include 5 a sides and kids kicking the ball around at lunch.

It is the biggest. It's not even close.

bren2001 · 26-04-2019 6:13pm

Arghus wrote: »

Participation sport. As people participate in it, that does include 5 a sides and kids kicking the ball around at lunch.

It is the biggest. It's not even close.

It's the biggest team participation sport but by no means the biggest participation sport. Swimming and golf have a higher participation rate.

From the ESRI study Sports Participation and Health Among Adults in Ireland.

Arghus · 26-04-2019 6:28pm

bren2001 wrote: »

It's the biggest team participation sport but by no means the biggest participation sport. Swimming and golf have a higher participation rate.

From the ESRI study Sports Participation and Health Among Adults in Ireland.

Golf?

I'm sorry there is literally no way Golf is the biggest participation sport in the country. Can you show me the link to that survey?

OldMrBrennan83 · 26-04-2019 6:40pm

StockTwat29 wrote: »

How can you say its not worth listening to if you didn't even listen to it?

I thought it was a good chat about the league in general and how its changed recently

I meant the "league of Ireland lol" bit at the start before they went to the proper business of Man Utd. Didn't know they were going back to Snyed later at all but I went back and listened today. He's decent.

bren2001 · 26-04-2019 6:50pm

Arghus wrote: »

Golf?

I'm sorry there is literally no way Golf is the biggest participation sport in the country. Can you show me the link to that survey?

Page 22, it's really not that surprising, you can play golf a lot longer than football. Nowhere near as rough on the body.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150904125738/http://www.esri.ie/UserFiles/publications/20070223162340/BKMNINT178_Main%20Text%20Chapters%201-4.pdf

lawred2 · 26-04-2019 6:51pm

Participation includes kick abouts?

OldMrBrennan83 · 26-04-2019 6:54pm

bren2001 wrote: »

Page 22, it's really not that surprising, you can play golf a lot longer than football. Nowhere near as rough on the body.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150904125738/http://www.esri.ie/UserFiles/publications/20070223162340/BKMNINT178_Main%20Text%20Chapters%201-4.pdf

You also need to be making 5 figures to be accepted past the gate and the tiger is long dead.

Arghus · 26-04-2019 6:54pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Participation includes kick abouts?

Why wouldn't it? It's sport and by taking part you are participating.

bren2001 · 26-04-2019 6:58pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

You also need to be making 5 figures to be accepted past the gate and the tiger is long dead.

You need to be making 10k a year? Yeah you need to have a job, Its an expensive sport but not that expensive. There are cheap courses available.

Arghus · 26-04-2019 6:59pm

bren2001 wrote: »

Page 22, it's really not that surprising, you can play golf a lot longer than football. Nowhere near as rough on the body.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150904125738/http://www.esri.ie/UserFiles/publications/20070223162340/BKMNINT178_Main%20Text%20Chapters%201-4.pdf

That's a survey of adult participation rates. So the huge numbers of kids and young teenagers who play don't feature anywhere in the data.

OldMrBrennan83 · 26-04-2019 7:02pm

bren2001 wrote: »

You need to be making 10k a year? Yeah you need to have a job, Its an expensive sport but not that expensive. There are cheap courses available.

**** yeah, six

The Talking Bread · 26-04-2019 7:06pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

**** yeah, six

How much do you think golf membership is?

bren2001 · 26-04-2019 7:11pm

Arghus wrote: »

That's a survey of adult participation rates. So the huge numbers of kids and young teenagers who play don't feature anywhere in the data.

Well if you wanna go off and find the relevant study be my guest. I don't think it's as clear cut as you were suggesting. Swimming has huge numbers.

OldMrBrennan83 · 26-04-2019 7:14pm

The Talking Bread wrote: »

How much do you think golf membership is?

I know it's not the 20k-plus that it was in the wanker years but still the long standers don't want people around courses that don't convey a certain image (equipment, transport, clothing, etc).

Arghus · 26-04-2019 7:15pm

bren2001 wrote: »

Well if you wanna go off and find the relevant study be my guest. I don't think it's as clear cut as you were suggesting. Swimming has huge numbers.

I'm afraid I don't have that survey, but, anecdotally, I was once a schoolkid myself and I didn't spend too many lunch breaks playing golf - or swimming for that matter either.

The Talking Bread · 26-04-2019 7:16pm

bren2001 wrote: »

Well if you wanna go off and find the relevant study be my guest. I don't think it's as clear cut as you were suggesting. Swimming has huge numbers.

No it doesn't really.

Mean Laqueefa · 26-04-2019 7:19pm

bren2001 wrote: »

Well if you wanna go off and find the relevant study be my guest. I don't think it's as clear cut as you were suggesting. Swimming has huge numbers.

Are you counting having baths ?

Ol' Donie · 26-04-2019 7:36pm

Lads, c'mon. It's football by about a million miles.

styron · 26-04-2019 7:44pm

Reported participation (2015 & 2017) in the previous seven days (three sport limit):

https://www.sportireland.ie/Research/Irish%20Sports%20Monitor%202017%20-%20Half%20Year%20Report/Irish%20Sports%20Monitor%202017.pdf

Say Your Number · 26-04-2019 7:47pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

I meant the "league of Ireland lol" bit at the start before they went to the proper business of Man Utd.

They always talk about things they attend in that way, I never got the sense they were taking the piss out of the LOI.

Speaking anecdotally, I went to a gym with a glass window separating it from swimming pool, and the pool was always fairly busy.

lawred2 · 26-04-2019 7:56pm

Arghus wrote: »

Why wouldn't it? It's sport and by taking part you are participating.

not arguing bud - just clarifying what participation is taken to mean..

Just when I heard him state it first - I presumed it to mean participation in organised competitive sport. Which I presume the GAA would be front runner of.. Maybe it isn't - just another presumption.

Could easily see soccer lead the way with participation defined like that. Although almost every 5 a side game I've played - I've usually been the only one who actually played Sunday or District league footie - the rest could be competitively playing a whole range of other sports.

But I suppose that just goes to show that it is football that most people will play in some shape or form.

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