Second Captains

RedRochey

I don't think there has been a lack of GAA coverage, it's more so that when they do cover it there seems to be one story that dominates the conversation and they don't really touch on any other matches then

Adamcp898

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Graham Hunter has to be worst person on any show out there. Insufferable

"As the knowledgeable listeners to Off the Ball will already know............"

dog_pig

Obrieski wrote: »

Is it just me or has there been a severe lack of GAA coverage so far? Hardly a peep about either of the championships, none of the big stories or previews/reviews really.

I mean, Offaly hurling is in free fall and they had Michael Duignan on regularly in the past, i’d love to hear his take on matters. Munster hurling championship has hardly been mentioned yet. Kerry struggle by Clare. Longford and Kildare was fascinating. Big games this weekend so assume Friday’s podcast will have some coverage but it has been wholly lacking in my opinion so far. Q

If Leinster were playing rugby, or Ireland in football (as it was today), you can’t breathe for all the analysis, insights and coverage from different pundits. Jut think they could do a little more with it in my opinion

The week before last year’s final round of Super 8 games and the hurling semi-final replay there was no GAA coverage whatsoever. Doesn’t look like there was any today either? I’m not sure why they bother doing coverage at any stage during the year if this is how they approach it.

OldMrBrennan83

Obrieski wrote: »

Is it just me or has there been a severe lack of GAA coverage so far? Hardly a peep about either of the championships, none of the big stories or previews/reviews really.

I mean, Offaly hurling is in free fall and they had Michael Duignan on regularly in the past, i’d love to hear his take on matters. Munster hurling championship has hardly been mentioned yet. Kerry struggle by Clare. Longford and Kildare was fascinating. Big games this weekend so assume Friday’s podcast will have some coverage but it has been wholly lacking in my opinion so far. Q

If Leinster were playing rugby, or Ireland in football (as it was today), you can’t breathe for all the analysis, insights and coverage from different pundits. Jut think they could do a little more with it in my opinion

All you'll hear from Duignan is how they're too good to be where they are and the structures have failed them.

deisedude

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

Obrieski wrote: »

Is it just me or has there been a severe lack of GAA coverage so far? Hardly a peep about either of the championships, none of the big stories or previews/reviews really.

I mean, Offaly hurling is in free fall and they had Michael Duignan on regularly in the past, i’d love to hear his take on matters. Munster hurling championship has hardly been mentioned yet. Kerry struggle by Clare. Longford and Kildare was fascinating. Big games this weekend so assume Friday’s podcast will have some coverage but it has been wholly lacking in my opinion so far. Q

If Leinster were playing rugby, or Ireland in football (as it was today), you can’t breathe for all the analysis, insights and coverage from different pundits. Jut think they could do a little more with it in my opinion

All you'll hear from Duignan is how they're too good to be where they are and the structures have failed them.

Duignan is the biggest spoofer only matched by his fellow Offaly man Daithi Regan

Say Your Number

I remember people giving out about too much GAA last August, must drag up some of the last few posts here, if people start complaining about that again!

deisedude

Say Your Number wrote: »

I remember people giving out about too much GAA last August, must drag up some of the last few posts here, if people start complaining about that again!

Well there is some people on here that just want soccer and have no time for other sports

Arghus

deisedude wrote: »

Well there is some people on here that just want soccer and have no time for other sports

Most of their audience I'd say.

corwill

Arghus wrote: »

Most of their audience I'd say.

It's a shame for them it's not a soccer-only podcast, so.

Arghus

corwill wrote: »

It's a shame for them it's not a soccer-only podcast, so.

I'm in total agreement with you there!

Hippo

Obrieski wrote: »

Powerful interview today with Hannah Tyrell, the poor girl suffered a lot...glad she has pulled through her difficulties and is flying on the sporting scene now.

I feel there can never be enough of these style of interviews to raise awareness of these various kinds of mental issues, even if it helps just the one person who is struggling then it is worth it.

All the best to Hannah in her future personal and sporting career.

This was a great interview, very strong and revealing stuff from Hannah and incredibly honest. She's doing a great public service by talking so openly.

Kudos also to Eoin, handled the interview very well and demonstrated again why he's the best around

corwill

"... in that they're both mammals."

terrydel

Ciaran_B wrote: »

The pods were very good this week. Enjoyed the cycling chat. I'd like to hear that guy on again.

Who was that do you remember?

Say Your Number

Heard the Pbeso music and couldn't skip forward fast enough.

dr.kenneth noisewater

Say Your Number wrote: »

Heard the Pbeso music and couldn't skip forward fast enough.

A little place called Navan

dulux99

Listening to Ken report on transfer gossip is bizarre. He was speaking about a story by The Sun (of all fkin papers) about De Ligt today and seemed to have no concept of how much clickbait bullsh*t transfer stories in the summer are.

Dots1982

dulux99 wrote: »

Listening to Ken report on transfer gossip is bizarre. He was speaking about a story by The Sun (of all fkin papers) about De Ligt today and seemed to have no concept of how much clickbait bullsh*t transfer stories in the summer are.

#content

tomwaits48

Say Your Number wrote: »

Heard the Pbeso music and couldn't skip forward fast enough.

they really should retire that segment, it's terrible.

On a positive note, really want to see that Maradona film after their discussion with its director, and also check out Amy. If either are as good as Senna they'll both be worth watching.

lawred2

tomwaits48 wrote: »

they really should retire that segment, it's terrible.

On a positive note, really want to see that Maradona film after their discussion with its director, and also check out Amy. If either are as good as Senna they'll both be worth watching.

especially as it's usually a letter from some smarmy git trying to be super witty

it's always a fast forward for me

Cienciano

I'm assuming Ken was playing devils advocate on the USA womens team and that Klopp shíte. I agree with Murph on this one.

Pete Moss

Tim Vickery - I get it, he's a South American sports correspondent. That said, he really hammers it home when pronouncing the names of South American footballers.

He sounded like my uncle from Limerick blind drunk after a wedding trying to pronounce Roberto Firmino or Coutinho.

Arghus

lawred2 wrote: »

especially as it's usually a letter from some smarmy git trying to be super witty

it's always a fast forward for me

Usually it's fairly unbearable alright, but it was a but more bearable this week because they kinda took the piss out of the guy who wrote in.

Brock Turnpike

Pete Moss wrote: »

Tim Vickery - I get it, he's a South American sports correspondent. That said, he really hammers it home when pronouncing the names of South American footballers.

He sounded like my uncle from Limerick blind drunk after a wedding trying to pronounce Roberto Firmino or Coutinho.

Huh? He's based in South America speaks and pronounces the names as they would be pronounced in Spanish/Portuguese

Pete Moss

Brock Turnpike wrote:

Huh? He's based in South America speaks and pronounces the names as they would be pronounced in Spanish/Portuguese

Yes, that's apparent. I acknowledged that he is a South American sports correspondent in my original post. I find the pronunciation, correct or otherwise, distracting from the point he's making when he's contributing to a podcast.

Raoul

Pete Moss wrote: »

Yes, that's apparent. I acknowledged that he is a South American sports correspondent in my original post. I find the pronunciation, correct or otherwise, distracting from the point he's making when he's contributing to a podcast.

So you want him to mispronounce the names?

dominatinMC

Pete Moss wrote: »

Yes, that's apparent. I acknowledged that he is a South American sports correspondent in my original post. I find the pronunciation, correct or otherwise, distracting from the point he's making when he's contributing to a podcast.

Christ :rolleyes: Proof that people will complain about ANYTHING these days

Cienciano

Raoul wrote: »

So you want him to mispronounce the names?

I don't mind his pronunciation I'd rather hear the real way they're said, but I draw the line at people talking about Barcelona and Valencia like they have a bad lisp.

Noddy86

Joe Brolly loves the sound of Joe Brollys voice. In fact if Joe Brolly could just listen to Joe Brolly speaking non-stop then Joe Brolly would be delighted with that.

Decent listen but barely mentioned the book as Joe spun one yarn after another totally unrelated to eachother.

elefant

Pete Moss wrote: »

Plenty of others do. Do you go around pronouncing Roberto Firmino as it should be? Do you drop the throaty "Ggghh" sound when mentioning David De Gea?
Of course you don't, because it sounds pretentious and you'd be rightly labelled a "w*nker" for doing so.

Do other BBC sports correspondents pronounce Matt Doherty's name correctly?
They throw a fictious 'C' in his name for Christ's sake.



Settle down. I don't find it that much of an issue or inconvenience to label it as a "complaint". More an observation, if that's OK.

How curious. This must be some sort of complex.

You intentionally incorrectly pronounce people's names to avoid sounding pretentious? Do you anglicise all Irish names when you're around non-Irish people?

Pete Moss

Raoul wrote:

So you want him to mispronounce the names?

I don't want him to mispronounce them, but let's call a spade a spade. The man's English, he reports for the English press and his audience are English speakers, so it's nothing more than a pretense. Do you pronounce such names correctly in general conversation with English speakers? Do you go around pronouncing Roberto Firmino as it should be? Do you drop the throaty "Ggghh" sound when mentioning David De Gea?
Of course you don't, because it sounds pretentious and you'd be rightly labelled a "w*nker" for doing so.

Do other BBC sports correspondents pronounce Matt Doherty's name correctly?
They throw a fictitious 'C' in his name for Christ's sake.

dominatinMC wrote:

Christ Proof that people will complain about ANYTHING these days

Settle down. I don't find it that much of an issue or inconvenience to label it as a "complaint". More an observation, if that's OK.

Pete Moss

Phonology of the Irish language varies greatly from dialect to dialect. So, for example if a GAA commentator from the West is referring to a hurler with a typical Connemara-esque name, then, as I have a Dublin accent and dialect, I will, most likely, pronounce it completely different when around anyone, non-Irish or otherwise. This doesn't mean, in anyway, that I would be mispronouncing it intentionally.

Brock Turnpike

Pete Moss wrote: »

Raoul wrote:

So you want him to mispronounce the names?

I don't want him to mispronounce them, but let's call a spade a spade. The man's English, he reports for the English press and his audience are English speakers, so it's nothing more than a pretense. Do you pronounce such names correctly in general conversation with English speakers? Do you go around pronouncing Roberto Firmino as it should be? Do you drop the throaty "Ggghh" sound when mentioning David De Gea?
Of course you don't, because it sounds pretentious and you'd be rightly labelled a "w*nker" for doing so.

Do other BBC sports correspondents pronounce Matt Doherty's name correctly?
They throw a fictitious 'C' in his name for Christ's sake.

dominatinMC wrote:

Christ Proof that people will complain about ANYTHING these days

Settle down. I don't find it that much of an issue or inconvenience to label it as a "complaint". More an observation, if that's OK.

Bit weird, Pete. If you met a Brazilian woman with a name tag which said Rafa, who introduced herself as Hafa, how would you pronounce it when addressing her after that?

Brock Turnpike

Noddy86 wrote: »

Joe Brolly loves the sound of Joe Brollys voice. In fact if Joe Brolly could just listen to Joe Brolly speaking non-stop then Joe Brolly would be delighted with that.

Decent listen but barely mentioned the book as Joe spun one yarn after another totally unrelated to eachother.

Wouldn't let the lads finish a question without interrupting them halfway through.

Pete Moss

Brock Turnpike wrote:

Bit weird, Pete. If you met a Brazilian woman with a name tag which said Rafa, who introduced herself as Hafa, how would you pronounce it when addressing her after that?

Well, in that instance, I would most definitely try make some sort of a quip along the lines of "Hafa? You must be Hafa'ing me on."

Which would obviously be followed by rapturous applause and hearty laughing. After that, meh, I'd probably call her Rafa.

Dots1982

I heard Tim Vickery on the world football phone in recently. A Scottish caller took to Tim about free kicks and how you should be able to run with the ball from them and not have to pass. Tim was stumped for a second and then recovered to tell the caller how when football was invented the English would just run and run with the ball until they lost it. Again and again this happened. That was until the scots invented modern day football where the football was meant to be passed not dribbled out of possession or play.

Probably the best answer to a phone in question I’ve ever heard. The man is different class to the normal voices you hear on football pods.

Pete Moss

Brock Turnpike wrote:

Bit weird, Pete. If you met a Brazilian woman with a name tag which said Rafa, who introduced herself as Hafa, how would you pronounce it when addressing her after that?

I'm joking of course with my previous response to your question. If someone mentioned their name was pronounced a certain way, then yes, of course I would make effort to pronounce it as they would like.

For the record, I do think Tim Vickery is a good correspondent and makes excellent points. However, as per one of my earlier posts, when I pronounces a South American player's name, as it should sound, with such vigour and gusto, then I find it a little, for the want of better word, distracting.

OldMrBrennan83

Noddy86 wrote: »

Joe Brolly loves the sound of Joe Brollys voice. In fact if Joe Brolly could just listen to Joe Brolly speaking non-stop then Joe Brolly would be delighted with that.

Decent listen but barely mentioned the book as Joe spun one yarn after another totally unrelated to eachother.

I was glad of all the tangents. I thought Joe Demaggio was a boxer so I'd little interest.

dulux99

I listened to only the first quarter of the Joe Brolly pod today but are they going to to through the whole thing without ever acknowledging how badly they've spoken about him over the years?

Ol' Donie

dulux99 wrote: »

I listened to only the first quarter of the Joe Brolly pod today but are they going to to through the whole thing without ever acknowledging how badly they've spoken about him over the years?

He thrives on people getting wound up about his schtick.

I can't wait to listen to this episode. I like Brolly, anyway, and I love when they cover stuff outside of the latest news.

North of 32

Joe Brolly is odd.

He takes himself seriously, wants other people to take him seriously, but is terrified that people might think that he takes himself too seriously.

EltonJohn69

I think it’s time for a few UFO dedicated podcasts from the second captains... with football off the TV I think a lot people’s thoughts are drifting towards extraterrestrial beings and inter dimensional travelers

Aidric

Noddy86 wrote: »

Decent listen but barely mentioned the book as Joe spun one yarn after another totally unrelated to eachother.

That was also my take from the interview. I learned next to nothing about the book which was supposed to be the whole reason for the interview.

A rare slip from the lads but they indulged Brolly too much. If they wanted to interview him about GAA then plough ahead but to present it as a book review was to do the listener an injustice.

dulux99

Aidric wrote: »

That was also my take from the interview. I learned next to nothing about the book which was supposed to be the whole reason for the interview.

A rare slip from the lads but they indulged Brolly too much. If they wanted to interview him about GAA then plough ahead but to present it as a book review was to do the listener an injustice.

I thought it was an excellent listen. Can't please em all!

Raoul

Aidric wrote: »

That was also my take from the interview. I learned next to nothing about the book which was supposed to be the whole reason for the interview.

A rare slip from the lads but they indulged Brolly too much. If they wanted to interview him about GAA then plough ahead but to present it as a book review was to do the listener an injustice.

I agree to a certain extent but tbh, it sounded like Joe just didn't think the book was all that great.

Was there any reason they picked Joe Brolly to review that book? Other than to say Joe DeBrollio.

I also agree that Joe likes the sound of his own voice and he didn't let the lads finish questions. But also, I thoroughly enjoyed it, Joe seems like a very nice down to earth person and very interesting and knowledgeable.

Brock Turnpike

Raoul wrote: »

Aidric wrote: »

That was also my take from the interview. I learned next to nothing about the book which was supposed to be the whole reason for the interview.

A rare slip from the lads but they indulged Brolly too much. If they wanted to interview him about GAA then plough ahead but to present it as a book review was to do the listener an injustice.

I agree to a certain extent but tbh, it sounded like Joe just didn't think the book was all that great.

Was there any reason they picked Joe Brolly to review that book? Other than to say Joe DeBrollio.

I also agree that Joe likes the sound of his own voice and he didn't let the lads finish questions. But also, I thoroughly enjoyed it, Joe seems like a very nice down to earth person and very interesting and knowledgeable.

You like Joe, and you like his style?

bamayang

Raoul wrote: »

Aidric wrote: »

That was also my take from the interview. I learned next to nothing about the book which was supposed to be the whole reason for the interview.

A rare slip from the lads but they indulged Brolly too much. If they wanted to interview him about GAA then plough ahead but to present it as a book review was to do the listener an injustice.

I agree to a certain extent but tbh, it sounded like Joe just didn't think the book was all that great.

Was there any reason they picked Joe Brolly to review that book? Other than to say Joe DeBrollio.

I also agree that Joe likes the sound of his own voice and he didn't let the lads finish questions. But also, I thoroughly enjoyed it, Joe seems like a very nice down to earth person and very interesting and knowledgeable.

I thought it was interesting that he seemed to cut off Murph at every chance but not so much McDevitt. Little bit of ranking going on there imo

corwill

As likeable as Duignan is, there's surely a better hurling pundit to be had.

RedRochey

corwill wrote: »

As likeable as Duignan is, there's surely a better hurling pundit to be had.

He's always bringing up points he made before just to show that he was right about them, like yesterday going on about how "I said it last year that Galway need to blood more players"

Raoul

bamayang wrote: »

I thought it was interesting that he seemed to cut off Murph at every chance but not so much McDevitt. Little bit of ranking going on there imo

Ken needs to get onto Joe to learn how to deal with Murph and his cutting across. Just ignore it and keep talking :cool:

corwill

StockTwat29 wrote: »

He's always bringing up points he made before just to show that he was right about them, like yesterday going on about how "I said it last year that Galway need to blood more players"

Such a wondrous insight! He's right on the same basis that a broken clock tells the right time twice a day. If the Offaly board do call on him, then you know they're in serious trouble.