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Cienciano

Anyone listen to the latest Players Chair with Paul O'Connell? Very good I though, definitely one of the better ones. Only problem was, it was too short. Only about half an hour.

corwill

Cienciano wrote: »

Anyone listen to the latest Players Chair with Paul O'Connell? Very good I though, definitely one of the better ones. Only problem was, it was too short. Only about half an hour.

I enjoyed it, but it was a bit familiar, touched on a good bit of ground covered in a previous interview with the lads. Timewise, I'm sure there were limits on stage time on the EP stage in question. But yeah, I could listen to O'Connell for a lot longer, even as a non-fan of rugger. Very interesting and personable guy.

heebusjeebus

Cienciano wrote: »

Anyone listen to the latest Players Chair with Paul O'Connell? Very good I though, definitely one of the better ones. Only problem was, it was too short. Only about half an hour.

I was there for the recording and there was more preamble before PO'C came on stage.
I could hear The Riptide Movement in the background again as they were on the main stage at the time.

Arghus

Still Ill wrote: »

Anyone else devastated by Ken's lack of capitalisation in that Tweet?

I did die inside a little yes.

Eire-Dearg

Had to snigger given some of the comments in here lately that they had Miguel on to talk about the England game.

lawred2

Eoin Reddan talks some amount of pap

tomwaits48

I think Ken is being a bit precious / making a meal of the Mick / Steven Kenny dynamic.

Still Ill

tomwaits48 wrote: »

I think Ken is being a bit precious / making a meal of the Mick / Steven Kenny dynamic.

Think he talked quite a lot of rubbish today. His analogy of Robbie getting called up whilst with LA and Jack Byrne not getting in the team because he's with Rovers was absolute nonsense.

dulux99

I'm harking back to Monday now - but does Sinead O'Carroll have to mention that she plays camogie every single time she's on the podcast? We know Sinead. You've mentioned. Many times.

tomwaits48

dulux99 wrote: »

I'm harking back to Monday now - but does Sinead O'Carroll have to mention that she plays camogie every single time she's on the podcast? We know Sinead. You've mentioned. Many times.

She’s truly insufferable

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

tomwaits48 wrote: »

She’s truly insufferable

It's also camogie...

zzz

Brock Turnpike

Still Ill wrote: »

tomwaits48 wrote: »

I think Ken is being a bit precious / making a meal of the Mick / Steven Kenny dynamic.

Think he talked quite a lot of rubbish today. His analogy of Robbie getting called up whilst with LA and Jack Byrne not getting in the team because he's with Rovers was absolute nonsense.

I'm a big fan of Ken but Richie gave him a schooling today

Say Your Number

I DON'T CARE, IT'S YOU'RE JOB NOT MINE, GET OUT!!

RedRochey

I think Ken knew he made an absolutely stupid point about Robbie Keane in the MLS cause he quickly slightly changed the subject and didn't defend his point at all

yermandan

Thought Murph has done a fine job hosting for the past 2 weeks

TwistFace

I think yesterday's episode was pretty poor. I find Richie hard to listen to. I think he doesn't really have his own opinions on things. He's improved a bit on this but his long term strategy is to answer a question with a question. Ken - 'Richie, what do you think of our wingers positioning?' Richie's response to this is 'well what are we saying Ken, are they too wide or too narrow?'. And then he'll work off Ken's response. This just drives me mad!

Richie couldn't even fully commit to his logical take that LOI is poor.

I think the lads just have him on because he's on TV and its good for the brand.

Also, I don't get why Ken picks on the individual midfield players so much. According to other analysts (I think Gary Breen), Ireland's midfield is over-run because our defence sits too deep! If this is true, no matter what players go in there, they will be outplayed.

Also my opinion is that Jack Byrne is probably getting outplayed at the training camp. Handy player to have but miles off starting.

tomwaits48

I enjoyed Mike Quirke having a right cut at Joe Brolly this morning.

Dots1982

TwistFace wrote: »

I think yesterday's episode was pretty poor. I find Richie hard to listen to. I think he doesn't really have his own opinions on things. He's improved a bit on this but his long term strategy is to answer a question with a question. Ken - 'Richie, what do you think of our wingers positioning?' Richie's response to this is 'well what are we saying Ken, are they too wide or too narrow?'. And then he'll work off Ken's response. This just drives me mad!

Richie couldn't even fully commit to his logical take that LOI is poor.

I think the lads just have him on because he's on TV and its good for the brand.

Also, I don't get why Ken picks on the individual midfield players so much. According to other analysts (I think Gary Breen), Ireland's midfield is over-run because our defence sits too deep! If this is true, no matter what players go in there, they will be outplayed.

Also my opinion is that Jack Byrne is probably getting outplayed at the training camp. Handy player to have but miles off starting.

Richie sadlier’s career in sports media is something I will never understand.

I think some are just happy that he seems pleasant, has a nice voice and is polished. That he seems to have nothing substantial to ever say about football matters is just overlooked.

hankless

tomwaits48 wrote: »

She’s truly insufferable

You dare not disagree with anything she says on Twitter if you're male because she'll be straight back at you with the mansplaining rebuttal.

Beersmith

yermandan wrote: »

Thought Murph has done a fine job hosting for the past 2 weeks

He is always good as a host. Usually just a voice too many when ken and eoin are there.

Cienciano

I reckon there's a lot of Stephen Ireland stories the lads have heard about but cannot mention on air.

thenightman

Yeah, I've no bother with Murph when he's hosting because he's forced to reign it in a bit. But, he's like an annoying younger brother desperate for attention from his older brother and his friends when Ken and Eoin are there. The ultimate third wheel.

Arghus

Cienciano wrote: »

I reckon there's a lot of Stephen Ireland stories the lads have heard about but cannot mention on air.

Even Richie - the ultimate in modern sensitive manhood - couldn't really disguise how much he thought Stephen Ireland was full of it.

Cienciano

Arghus wrote: »

Even Richie - the ultimate in modern sensitive manhood - couldn't really disguise how much he thought Stephen Ireland was full of it.

I remember back in the day Richard Dunne said something along the lines of Stephen Ireland was borderline special needs :pac:

If anyone ever meets Robbie Keane in a pub with a few pints on him, ask him for a few Stephen Ireland stories

Ol' Donie

I love Ritchie's chats with the lads.

That's really all I have to say about that.

elefant

tomwaits48 wrote: »

I enjoyed Mike Quirke having a right cut at Joe Brolly this morning.

Very good. And absolutely spot on.

dulux99

Is everyone buzzing for the interview with Michael Owen today? Zzzzz

lawred2

Arghus wrote: »

Even Richie - the ultimate in modern sensitive manhood - couldn't really disguise how much he thought Stephen Ireland was full of it.

:rolleyes:

god yeah - can't be talking about feelings, mental health or depression now - men must be men

lawred2

dulux99 wrote: »

Is everyone buzzing for the interview with Michael Owen today? Zzzzz

That'll be an immediate swipe left anyway

Brock Turnpike

TwistFace wrote: »

I think yesterday's episode was pretty poor. I find Richie hard to listen to. I think he doesn't really have his own opinions on things. He's improved a bit on this but his long term strategy is to answer a question with a question. Ken - 'Richie, what do you think of our wingers positioning?' Richie's response to this is 'well what are we saying Ken, are they too wide or too narrow?'. And then he'll work off Ken's response. This just drives me mad!

Richie couldn't even fully commit to his logical take that LOI is poor.

I think the lads just have him on because he's on TV and its good for the brand.

Also, I don't get why Ken picks on the individual midfield players so much. According to other analysts (I think Gary Breen), Ireland's midfield is over-run because our defence sits too deep! If this is true, no matter what players go in there, they will be outplayed.

Also my opinion is that Jack Byrne is probably getting outplayed at the training camp. Handy player to have but miles off starting.

Interesting that you criticize Richie for not having an opinion, but you then proceed to use someone else's opinion to challenge Ken's opinion. An interesting angle to say the least.

richie is something very different to most ex professionals and a huge asset to the pod. if you want someone with definite, huge, strong and immediate opinions there's always robbie savage or chris sutton, we've all got options

i also think kens value isnt in always being right, its the audacity of the effort. so when he goes big and gets it wrong you have to take that as the price

vive le difference

RedRochey

TwistFace wrote: »

I think yesterday's episode was pretty poor. I find Richie hard to listen to. I think he doesn't really have his own opinions on things. He's improved a bit on this but his long term strategy is to answer a question with a question. Ken - 'Richie, what do you think of our wingers positioning?' Richie's response to this is 'well what are we saying Ken, are they too wide or too narrow?'. And then he'll work off Ken's response. This just drives me mad!
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I noticed this so much after you mentioned it, every hard question he gets he tries to break it down into small pieces and then answers with a question, can be annoying at times.

Overall I still like him, you can see that the lads get on with him well.

tomwaits48

Ken letting his Liverpool fan mask slip in this Owen interview

TwistFace

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Interesting that you criticize Richie for not having an opinion, but you then proceed to use someone else's opinion to challenge Ken's opinion. An interesting angle to say the least.

Bit harsh on me but whatever! I did actually give me own opinion on Byrne at the end! Which is in fact the piece I was referring to when criticizing Richie. But hey everyone's entitled to give their own opinion! :pac:

dulux99

tomwaits48 wrote: »

Ken letting his Liverpool fan mask slip in this Owen interview

I don't know why he bothers with the mask in the first place. Granted he is supposed to be impartial but his fiery hatred of MUFC shines through any time he speaks about them anyway

dulux99

dulux99 wrote: »

I don't know why he bothers with the mask in the first place. Granted he is supposed to be impartial but his fiery hatred of MUFC shines through any time he speaks about them anyway

to be fair, theres an awful lot of non-lfc fans that havent a lot good to say about the superentity that is MUFC- and a lot of them would even be MUFC fans themselves

dulux99

[Deleted User] wrote: »

to be fair, theres an awful lot of non-lfc fans that havent a lot good to say about the superentity that is MUFC- and a lot of them would even be MUFC fans themselves

Of course. He's on the extreme end of the spectrum though.

Arghus

dulux99 wrote: »

Of course. He's on the extreme end of the spectrum though.

No he's not. He's nowhere near the extreme end of the spectrum.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

the michael owen podcast was a lot better than i thought it'd be

Cienciano

Cienciano wrote: »

Anyone listen to the latest Players Chair with Paul O'Connell? Very good I though, definitely one of the better ones. Only problem was, it was too short. Only about half an hour.

I would have preferred a bit more talk about his playing career, a bit less about psychology. Or even a bit of balance between the two. I for instance was wondering when he thought his best ever performance was etc

yohan the great

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup wrote: »

the michael owen podcast was a lot better than i thought it'd be

Agree. Ken asked him questions about other interesting parts of it rather than just the explosive stuff that has been in the media

EltonJohn69

Owens voice lacks drama.... hard to pay attention to the podcast

Beersmith

The best bit was when Ken recalled a moment in the match that Owen claimed was his best ever performance. The moment was Stevie G with an amazing pass. Would have been great to see Owens face when Ken said that.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

My sub finally expired and along comes an interview I actually want to hear.

Damn.

Still Ill

Hunky Monster wrote: »

My sub finally expired and along comes an interview I actually want to hear.

Damn.

You know how to remedy that? Support independent journalism!

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Still Ill wrote: »

You know how to remedy that? Support independent journalism!

As much as I want to I’ve lost my job so things like SC, Netflix, Spotify had to go. I do miss the lads.

deisedude

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Still Ill wrote: »

You know how to remedy that? Support independent journalism!

As much as I want to I’ve lost my job so things like SC, Netflix, Spotify had to go. I do miss the lads.

Best of luck Hunky Monster. Hope you get sorted soon

thenightman

Mickey Owen interview was quite good. Ken & Owen both seemed to be enjoying it too. I located Owen's book on the high seas and it's a interesting enough read. He goes into specifics about money and behind the scenes goings on which most football autobiogs generally avoid.

Still Ill

Enjoyed the Owen interview too.. He's a lot more interesting than the image portrayed of him. He got a lot of stick for his commentary on BT, but he was pretty brutal tbf. I find he's decent enough at studio analysis though.

On the topic of contributors' pay, I saw Ewan MacKenna tweeting that he invoiced the BBC for €40 for 20 mins airtime and they wouldn't pay him, so that might be an insight as to what's the going rate.

A P

Hunky Monster - if you want I can email you an MP3 of the Owen interview. Fire me a PM if so