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Luftwaffe and Heer Exhibitors - Dublin

  • 04-05-2013 7:28pm
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    Hi Collectors,

    I am a member of the LAHE and I was wondering if there were other members of the society / club who were also here on boards.ie

    luftwaffe-and-heer-exhibitors@hotmail.com

    At the last meeting some exhibitors brought books by B&D Publishing and I was able to read and flick through some books by Dietrich Maerz, George Stimson, Sascha Weber and Marc Garlasco that I was not familar with.

    Volume 1, 2 and 3 of the International Medal Collector magazine also by B&D Publishing which was designed to complement the books by the above author's already mentioned were also available to read.

    Is there anyone else here that subscribes to this magazine? smile.png


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    This Radio Operator / Air Gunner badge has been posted before on boards.ie in a separate thread but I will post more in this one as time goes by. I can add photographs to this thread if anyone is interested in following it.

    Here is my unmarked Radio Operator / Air Gunner Badge which can be attributed to the company of "Assmann". The badge comes with its original case of issue. The badge came along with two the photographs.

    It came from the veteran's daughter directly from Germany. The story she gave was that her father was shot down over London in 1941. He was then captured and sent to a prisoner of war camp in Canada. On the back of the group photograph you will see that it was stamped with "Prisoner of War Mail" along with "base post office Ottawa Canada" He was not released until 1948.

    The photographs were taken at different times and you can see that he held a different rank in each. The photograph taken of just himself he held the rank Feldwebel and he is waring a flieger bluse. The group photograph he is an Oberfeldwebel and he is waring a flight tunic. I also believe he is waring a cloth version to the RO/AG in the group photograph.

    A nice bit of history.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Luftwaffe flight tunic to the rank of Obergefreiter. This tunic is unit stamped to Aufklärungs Gruppen 14 and is also LBA stamped for the year 1938.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Please feel free to ask any additional questions about the items posted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Kriegs Verdienst Kreuz ( War Merit Cross )

    I built up a small collection of the Kriegs Verdienst Kreuz ( War Merit Cross ) a couple of years ago. It was awarded to both civilians and combatants. The civilian example came without swords and the combatant example with swords.


    I will show an example of a KVK II and a KVK I with swords for combatants. Approx 6.2 million examples of the KVK II with swords and .5 million examples of the KVK I with swords were awarded during WW II. Both of the examples I will show are made from tombac and come with either it's original paper packet or case of issue.

    A good text book on the subject which deals entirely with the KVK is "The War Merit Cross" by Gordon Williamson. It cost about €60 after P&P.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Fallschirm Prüfschein ( Parachute test certificate )

    This is an example of the parachute inspection booklet. Every parachute would have one of these certificates with both chute and booklet having matching serial numbers. This one indicates the parachute in question was inspected three times and has the signatures and stampings of the inspectors. This patricular example is stamped and dated 1944.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Neutral Shores : Ireland and the Battle of the Atlantic. Author Mark McShane ISBN: 978-1-85635-934-4

    Several copies of this book are available from the club library. I believe the book costs €20 new.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Eastern Front Campaign Medal

    The Eastern Front Campaign medal was issued in both tombac and zinc metals. Approx 3 million were issued to soldiers who served on the Eastern Front from 1941 until 1942. The inscription on the medal reads "Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42" ( Winter Battle in the East ).

    The award criteria was 14 days in combat for "Heer" ( Army ) and 30 operational flights for "Luftwaffe" ( Air Force ) personnel. The award could also be awarded posthumously.

    The example below is maker marked "1" on the suspension ring for Deshler & Sohn. It is accompanied with its paper packet of issue which is also stamped and reads Deschler & Sohn on the back.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    The following is a short poem written by a famous 19th Century Russian poet named Fyodor Tyutchev.

    Russia cannot be understood with the mind alone,
    No ordinary yardstick can span her greatness:
    She stands alone, unique –
    In Russia, one can only believe.


    I will in the future come back to the Eastern Front and showcase more historical items from that campaign. Please feel free to ask any questions you might have about the items already posted. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    West Wall Medal

    The West Wall medal was a service medal presented to individuals who took part in the construction of defences along Germany's Western borders. On the obverse of the medal it depicts a sword crossing a shovel over a bunker. It reads on the reverse of the medal "Fur Arbeit zum Schutze Deutschlands" ( For Work in the Defense of Germany). Approx .7 million of these medals were issued.

    The example shown below comes with its paper packet of issue. Both medal and packet are made by the firm Carl Poellath.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭ollaetta


    Luftwaffe wrote: »
    Luftwaffe flight tunic to the rank of Obergefreiter. This tunic is unit stamped to Aufklärungs Gruppen 14 and is also LBA stamped for the year 1938.

    What fantastic condition this tunic is in. A real beaut. Thanks for sharing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    ollaetta wrote: »
    What fantastic condition this tunic is in. A real beaut. Thanks for sharing.

    Hi ollaetta,

    Thank you very much for the complement. :) I will post another tunic for you very soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    DRL Sports Badge

    Another badge produced in the millions and in my opinion under appreciated. This particular example is in the bronze grade.

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    Iron Cross 2nd Class

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    Radio Operator / Air Gunner Badge

    An example of the cloth version of the radio operator / air gunner badge.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Hi Team,

    Next up is another ( Aufklärer ) reconnaissance theme. A Luftwaffe cloth Observer badge along with a Luftwaffe reconnaissance clasp in gold. The gold clasp was awarded to a member of flight crew after completing 110 operational combat missions. This particular example is unmarked.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Luftwaffe flight tunic to the rank of Oberst.

    It is unnamed but to a DKiG / SK recipient.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Pilot badge.

    This example is made by the company C E Juncker of Berlin.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Here is a tunic that I got last week for the museum. It was to a member of Jagdgeschwader Richthofen or JG 2. Jagdgeshwader Richtofen was a fighter squadren during WW II, named after a famous WW I fighter pilot Manfred von Richtofen also known as The Red Baron.

    JG2 flew Messerschmitt ME 109's aswell as the Focke Wulf FW 190. JG 2 saw action during the Battle of Britain, North West Europe, North Africa, The Mediterranean and finally back to Western Europe again towards the end of the war.

    This particlar tunic is to a Feldwebel ( sergeant ). You can see the cufftitle on the right cuff for JG 2. You can also see that a cloth pilot badge has been sewn just below the left breast pocket. Their are also award loops for a Eiserne Kreuze 1 ( Iron Cross 1st class ) which would be worn above the pilot badge and again another set of award loops above the left breast pocket for a fighter clasp.

    Just below the right breast pocket another set of award loops for where a Spanien Kreuz ( Spanish Cross ) or Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold ( German Cross in Gold ) would be worn. The DKiG was the 2nd highest award that could be bestowed an a recipient during WW II. Approximately 26,000 were issued to members of the Wehrmacht ( Armed Forces ) during WW II. Considering that Germany had millions of men under arms during the war this was a very serious award to receive.

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    The Dragon wrote: »
    The DKiG was the 2nd highest award that could be bestowed an a recipient during WW II. Approximately 26,000 were issued to members of the Wehrmacht ( Armed Forces ) during WW II. Considering that Germany had millions of men under arms during the war this was a very serious award to receive.

    Deutschen Kreuze in Gold ( German Cross in Gold ) has already been mentioned in the previous post and here is an example of the said award. This example is made by a company called "Zimmermann" and is make marked on the pin "20". This cross shows some nice patina.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭danpatjoe


    The Dragon wrote: »
    .....The DKiG was the 2nd highest award that could be bestowed an a recipient during WW II. ....

    Being an iron cross fan, I can't help asking if the order was not...?? :D

    1. Grand Cross of the Iron Cross.
    2. Knights Cross of the Iron Cross with Golden Oakleaves, Swords and Diamonds.
    3. Knights Cross of the Iron Cross with Oakleaves, Swords and Diamonds.
    4. Knights Cross of the Iron Cross with Oakleaves and Swords.
    5. Knights Cross of the Iron Cross with Oakleaves.
    6. Knights Cross of the Iron Cross.
    7. German Cross in Gold.


    Now, where did I put my anorak?! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Hi Dan,

    Yes, you are quite right with your list. :)

    I could not find my anorak earlier when I looked for it but I will try to give a brief explanation on the subject. :D

    The German Cross in Gold was in instituted in 1941 and awarded to individuals for repeated acts of bravery or achievement. It was considered to be a higher award then the Iron Cross 1st class but less than the Knight's Cross.

    I think the date is important. World War Two was well underway in 1941 when the German Cross in Gold was instituted which tells us that there was a need to recognise individuals for repeated acts of bravery, leadership and various other achievements. The individuals who received the German Cross in Gold did not warrant the Knights Cross but already had been awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class.

    As for the Knights Cross I believe that this was first awarded in 1939. As the war progressed and individuals who had already been awarded the Knights Cross but had also distinguished them selves further were then awarded the oakleaves, oakleaves and swords, oakleaves swords and diamonds and the golden oakleaves swords and diamonds.

    So from my understanding the German Cross in Gold was the 2nd highest award after the Knights Cross but as the war progressed the Knights Cross did receive additions.

    I hope my understanding and explanation makes sense. :confused:

    I think it would be great if you added a photograph of your Knights Cross to this thread. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    For anyone interested in Luftwaffe flight clasps. Here is a good book on the subject.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Jagdtiger


    I really need to get myself a copy of that book. Was it pricey?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Jagdtiger wrote: »
    I really need to get myself a copy of that book. Was it pricey?

    Hi Jagdtiger,

    Yes, it was. By the time I paid for it and had it shipped to Dublin it stood me €150. You can also buy a companion poster that comes to compliment the book.

    Here is a link below to the website. The website also has other good books too. www.winidorepress.com

    Hope this helps you. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Luftwaffe bomber clasp in gold with its case of issue. This particular grade was issued for completing 110 combat missions.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Air Gunner Qualification Badge

    An example of the cloth version of the air gunner badge.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Luftwaffe Bomber Clasp

    Luftwaffe bomber clasp in bronze with its case of issue. This particular grade was issued for completing 20 combat missions.

    If one compare's the lettering on this bronze case to the lettering on the gold case already posted you will see a difference. For example the stylised "g" in "Kampfflieger". These cases are discussed in Previtera's book on pages 96 and 97. It may not mean alot to most but to a clasp nut it does. :P

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    Unknown Soldier

    Unknown soldier along with his comrades receiving training. Pictures are dated 1943.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    For what it is worth there is talk of a small private World War Two museum opening soon in Dublin. It may be of interest to some. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭boomchicawawa


    Hi K, if you hear any more will you let me know ! C


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Hi K, if you hear any more will you let me know ! C

    Hi,

    I sure will. A lot of progress has been and quite a few people have pledged to loan items from their collections to the museum. A monthly news letter will be sent to all those on the mailing list. Each news letter will contain photographs and a brief account of a particular exhibit. The first news letter was sent out on the 1st October.

    The next news letter contains a group of historical items belonging to the same man. It is very interesting. So check your inbox on the 1st November. :)

    If anyone else is iterested you can contact : world-war-two-museum@hotmail.com

    All the best.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Luftwaffe flight trousers

    My last post of historical items for October

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    The Dragon wrote: »
    Hi,

    I sure will. A lot of progress has been and quite a few people have pledged to loan items from their collections to the museum. A monthly news letter will be sent to all those on the mailing list. Each news letter will contain photographs and a brief account of a particular exhibit. The first news letter was sent out on the 1st October.

    The next news letter contains a group of historical items belonging to the same man. It is very interesting. So check your inbox on the 1st November. :)

    If anyone else is iterested you can contact : world-war-two-museum@hotmail.com

    All the best.

    I also should have mentioned that Allied forces collectors have teamed up with Axis forces collectors. For a more rounded and better historical display.

    I will contact the social media people involved over the next few days and try and get more information.

    All the best


  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Jagdtiger


    The Dragon wrote: »
    For what it is worth there is talk of a small private World War Two museum opening soon in Dublin. It may be of interest to some. :)


    Any idea on where in Dublin it will be?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Jagdtiger wrote: »
    Any idea on where in Dublin it will be?

    Hi,

    Yep, it is going to be in Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin, approx 250 metres from the Dart station.

    I rang some of the people involved to find out more information for everyone and I was told that display cases to house the exhibits in have been looked at. Basically the are trying to get the best deal price wise on the display cases. It is proving expensive.

    As I mentioned in a previous post the Axis collectors have teamed up with Allied collectors which I think is great news.

    I told them about this thread and asked them if anyone from boards.ie had contacted them through the e-mail address given in post 1 and they said "yes". Unfortunately the number of interested parties who contacted them from boards.ie in the last six months was two. I was also told that the e-mail account in post 1 has been closed due to the fact that Allied collectors are now involved and the old e-mail address is no longer relevant.

    Plus I think the new e-mail address is more work friendly etc. world-war-two-museum@hotmail.com At least when I receive e-mails from that address it reads "WW II Museum" in my inbox. Anyway the newsletter is sent out on the 1st of every month. I have supplied photographs to the social media people and I believe my photographs will be used on the 1st November. In the mean time an Allied exhibit is being put together for next month or so I am told.

    Basically all one has to do is send one e-mail to the address already given for the WW II Museum and ask to be put on the mailing list. After that all the hard work will be done for you and it is free.

    I guess the more people that express an interest in such a project the better but it is still a work in progress. :)

    All the best


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    Luftwaffe tunic to an Oberleutnant. This tunic belonged to August Högl.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    U.S Army.

    This group belonged to Sergeant Alois J Fischer who served in the 91st Infantry Division during WW II. He was born on the 21st June 1922 in the state of Wisconsin. Before enlisting in the army he worked as a skilled machine shop operator. He enlisted in the army on the 6th October 1942 as a private.

    The 91st Infantry Division saw action in Italy. You can see on the right side of the tunic just underneath the ruptured duck insignia that Sergeant Fischer wore the Presidential Unit Citation. The Presidential Unit Citation was awarded to the 91st and other units for the involment in the Rome-Arno, North Apennines, Po Valley campaign.

    Sergeant Fischer was also awarded the Combat Infantry Badge, Purple Heart Medal, Good Conduct Medal and the European-African-Middel Eastern Campaign Medal. The combat badge and ribbon bar can be seen above the left breast pocket.

    Sergeant Alois J Fischer survived the war.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 142 ✭✭The Dragon


    I would also like to point out that Sergeant Alois J Fischer who served in the 91st Infantry Division during WW II died on the 19th February 1988.

    Yesterday would have been his anniversary. RIP


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