Your Team's Worst Premiership XI

gnfnrhead

Pretty hard to do for Arsenal. Loads of defenders, a couple of strikers but not many stand outs in midfield.

Wright

Silvestre
Squillaci
Stepanovs
Santos (a lot of S names.....)

Denilson
Arshavin
Reyes

Jeffers
Chamakh
Bendtner

Not the most balanced and some are questionable but it'll do me. Lupoli, Aliadiere and Park were all options up front but two didnt play enough and Ali wasnt as bad as the three I included. Not sure if Wright even managed the 15.

token101

Xavi6 wrote: »

Could probably make five City teams to be fair but here goes -

David Seaman

Laurent Charvet
Michael Frontzeck
David Sommeil

Nigel Clough
Martin Phillips
Steve McManaman
Jim Whitley

Carl Griffiths
Gerry Creaney
Lee Bradbury

Thankfully Phillips played exactly 15 games, the new Ryan Giggs my hole :rolleyes:

Bob Taylor only played 12 times sadly, while George Weah, Stefan Savic and Christian Negouai who also failed to reach the banchmark number of games unfortunately.

Honorable mentions to Kiki Musampa, Bernardo Corradi and Rolando Bianchi amongst others who are simply lucky that we've had so much shit over the years.

All overseen by Phil Neal.

GavRedKing

Chelsea :


GK: Hilario
DF: Ben Haim
DF: Duberry
DF: Boulahooruz (sp)
DF: Del Horno
MF: Morris
MF: Ambrosetti
MF: Dalla Bonna
MF: Veron
FW: Sutton
FW: Kezman

homerjay2005

GavRedKing wrote: »

Chelsea :


GK: Hilario
DF: Ben Haim
DF: Duberry
DF: Boulahooruz (sp)
DF: Del Horno
MF: Morris
MF: Ambrosetti
MF: Dalla Bonna
MF: Veron
FW: Sutton
FW: Kezman

considering the fee paid, would torres not be first on yere list?

kryogen

He hasn't been worse then Sutton (remember the fee paid for him at the time!)

GavRedKing

homerjay2005 wrote: »

considering the fee paid, would torres not be first on yere list?

Not with Kezman and Sutton, neither were good enough and barely done anything of note for the club.

I had to Wiki Kezmans stats, 25 League games, 4 goals.

Sutton 20 league games, 1 goal.

While Torres fee was huge he's at least got a better goal scoring record and offered more as a player to the team then either of the above.

I'd have Shevchenko over Torres too as at least in Torres case he's stuck around and tried to turn it around while the others high tailed it.

Worse strikers for me, Sutton, Kezman, Sheva.

Mutu was a good player but the cocaine use cost him big time and still is.
Crespo has family/personal issues otherwise I was hoping we'd keep him.

GavRedKing

kryogen wrote: »

He hasn't been worse then Sutton (remember the fee paid for him at the time!)

Dont remind us.

Xavi6

Considering he cost a club record fee, big bucks at the time, Paul Furlong is worth an honorable mention.

GavRedKing

Xavi6 wrote: »

Considering he cost a club record fee, big bucks at the time, Paul Furlong is worth an honorable mention.

Theres a blast from the past.

Think he cost us in and around 2 million when we signed him.

ThunbergsAreGo

kryogen wrote: »

May is a legend.

Really???

kryogen

naughtb4 wrote: »

Really???

I fail to see the funny in that?

May is a legend! It may be more for his post career, off the field stuff, but David May is a legend!

Roddy23

Arsenal

Surprised nobody has mentioned for me the worst Arsenal player of the last 25years, and he was Irish too:

Almunia,

Silvestre, Squillachi, Stepanovs, Santos,

Eddie McGoldrick, David Hillier, Glenn Helder,

Chris Kimomya, Francis Jeffers, Christoper Wreh

There were a few others from the early Wenger era like Remi Garde and some from the Stewart Houston, Bruce Rioch and George Graham who could probably make the grade.

keano_afc

Roddy23 wrote: »

Arsenal

Surprised nobody has mentioned for me the worst Arsenal player of the last 25years, and he was Irish too:

Almunia,

Silvestre, Squillachi, Stepanovs, Santos,

Eddie McGoldrick, David Hillier, Glenn Helder,

Chris Kimomya, Francis Jeffers, Christoper Wreh

There were a few others from the early Wenger era like Remi Garde and some from the Stewart Houston, Bruce Rioch and George Graham who could probably make the grade.

Vital player in the run-in in the 97/98 season. I wouldnt have him in there, Chamakh has to get the nod.

DazMarz

Don't agree with Hilario being the worst goalkeeper Chelsea have had in the Premier League era, Gav. He's been good when called upon (howler of a game against City in 09/10 notwithstanding). I remember several huge performances from him when Cech (and sometimes Cudicini) were out. The most memorable for me being a MOTM performance against Liverpool, again in 09/10.

He was reliable and solid, if unspectacular, whenever he was called upon. I always had a bit of a soft spot for him, so maybe that tints my opinion of him a bit, but I think Hitchcock was a far worse goalkeeper than Hilario.

Lawrence1895

Amazing, 8 pages in and no mention of Jens Lehmann yet :eek:

keano_afc

Lars1916 wrote: »

Amazing, 8 pages in and no mention of Jens Lehmann yet :eek:

Because he was a great keeper.

kevohmsford

For Liverpool I would pick Sean Dundee, Bjorne Tore Kvarme, Erik Meijer, Frode Kippe and Djimi Traore

Lawrence1895

keano_afc wrote: »

Because he was a great keeper.

But didn't he loose his place in the starting XI to Alumnia? Sorry, am not an Arsenal supporter, only kind of followed Lehmann's trail after he left Dortmund

SlickRic

Liverpool:

i'm aware the goalie doesn't fit the criteria, but I couldn't pick one. if I had to, Friedel, as he never made an impression. but i'd rather just have a pass for Charlie....anyway....

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Itandje

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Xavier

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Tanner

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Piechnik

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Konchesky
Nunez

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Cheyrou

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Diao

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El Zhar

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Diouf

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Voronin

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frightening.

it even looks ugly and shít.

premierstone

Lars1916 wrote: »

Amazing, 8 pages in and no mention of Jens Lehmann yet :eek:

Lehman was a quality keeper, mad as a box of frogs but an excellent keeper.

He played the entrire season in 2004 as part of the Invincibles, was MOTM in the 2005 FA Cup Fihal against Man Utd and in 2006 was voted on to the UEFA European teanm of the year. Id include him on our best Premier League team tbh.

GavRedKing

Gotta agree, Lehmann was mental but a good keeper IMO.

Lawrence1895

premierstone wrote: »

Lehman was a quality keeper, mad as a box of frogs but an excellent keeper.

He played the entrire season in 2004 as part of the Invincibles, was MOTM in the 2005 FA Cup Fihal against Man Utd and in 2006 was voted on to the UEFA European teanm of the year. Id include him on our best Premier League team tbh.

Aren't goalkeepers always a bit crazy?

He had his awful moments, when he played for Borussia Dortmund though, some hillarious blunders, which costed us some points.

jordainius

Lars1916 wrote: »

Amazing, 8 pages in and no mention of Jens Lehmann yet :eek:

Absolutely crazy suggestion!:)

You don't go unbeaten for a season with a dodgy keeper, he had a wobble in 04/05 which led to him being dropped for 10 games after which he came back better than ever to the extent that he dislodged Oliver Kahn from the Germany team ahead of the 2006 World Cup and was named 05/06 UEFA keeper of the year. Had an excellent 06/07. Made an error or two at the start of the next season and was harshly dropped.

I'd imagine I speak for a lot of Arsenal fans when I voice my displeasure at permanently dropping him in 2007, he should have been restored after a few games on the sidelines and we would have been better off for it in the long run- instead Wenger took a gamble on Almunia, a move which would eventually prove to be a mistake.

I like many Arsenal fans was sad to see him depart in 2008 and it was great to see him come back for a little while in 2011 as cover, he even started one last game for us and did quite well.

An Arsenal legend in my opinion!:D

Lawrence1895

jordainius wrote: »

Absolutely crazy suggestion!:)

You don't go unbeaten for a season with a dodgy keeper, he had a wobble in 04/05 which led to him being dropped for 10 games after which he came back better than ever to the extent that he dislodged Oliver Kahn from the Germany team ahead of the 2006 World Cup and was named 05/06 UEFA keeper of the year. Had an excellent 06/07. Made an error or two at the start of the next season and was harshly dropped.

I'd imagine I speak for a lot of Arsenal fans when I voice my displeasure at permanently dropping him in 2007, he should have been restored after a few games on the sidelines and we would have been better off for it in the long run- instead Wenger took a gamble on Almunia, a move which would eventually prove to be a mistake.

I like many Arsenal fans was sad to see him depart in 2008 and it was great to see him come back for a little while in 2011 as cover, he even started one last game for us and did quite well.

An Arsenal legend in my opinion!:D

It seems, he was a legend everywhere, except while playing for Borussia Dortmund

jordainius

Lars1916 wrote: »

It seems, he was a legend everywhere, except while playing for Borussia Dortmund

I don't know much about his time with Dortmund although I gather from a Dortmund fan I knew once that he let his inner nutter get the better of him a few too many times. Is that true on wikipedia; that he holds the record for most red cards by a Dortmund player??

Hank Scorpio

Lehmann comes across really well in interviews, the opposite of how he is on the pitch!

Lawrence1895

jordainius wrote: »

I don't know much about his time with Dortmund although I gather from a Dortmund fan I knew once that he let his inner nutter get the better of him a few too many times. Is that true on wikipedia; that he holds the record for most red cards by a Dortmund player??

As well as the record for most red cards of a goalkeeper in Germany.

redzerdrog

sean dundee, diouf, joe cole, poulsen and koncesky are a must for the worst liverpool 11

Anyone

Dont see any mention of Julian Dicks for Liverpool either. Surely he is worthy of a nomination. A skill-less hatchet man signed by Souness.

eagle eye

redzerdrog wrote: »

sean dundee, diouf, joe cole, poulsen and koncesky are a must for the worst liverpool 11

I don't think Diouf played bad enough to make it to a Liverpool worst 11. With the likes of Sinama-Pongole as a wide forward and Pennant as a winger there is no place to put him imo.

kfallon

Lars1916 wrote: »

It seems, he was a legend everywhere, except while playing for Borussia Dortmund

Wasn't he shíte for AC Milan too? I'm sure he played for them for a brief spell. Or have I got that totally wrong?

Corholio

COYVB wrote: »

With the caveats of a minimum of 15 league appearances in Premiership era to qualify, players played in their proper position and using a proper formation, what's your teams absolute worst XI? Might be nice to argue about whose team is worse for a change. Feel free to preemptively defend any controversial inclusions. I'll start with mine...

Aston Villa

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Petr Enkleman

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Alan Hutton---Liam Ridgewell

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Riccardo Scimeca---JLloyd Samuel
Hassan Kachlouol----Sasa Curcic

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Mark Kinsella--Oyvind Leonhardsen

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Marcus Allback---Emile Heskey

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There's a team to strike fear into the hearts of Villa fans everywhere... with Alex McLeish as manager, too

Stefan Moore instead of Allback and it's touch and go between Mark Kinsella and Alan Thompson.

SlickRic

how the fúck did I forget Pennant?

Moneymaker

You'd wonder if some people even watch football judging by the picks on here.

David May? Lehmann?

Jesus wept.

gnfnrhead

jordainius wrote: »

Absolutely crazy suggestion!:)

You don't go unbeaten for a season with a dodgy keeper, he had a wobble in 04/05 which led to him being dropped for 10 games after which he came back better than ever to the extent that he dislodged Oliver Kahn from the Germany team ahead of the 2006 World Cup and was named 05/06 UEFA keeper of the year. Had an excellent 06/07. Made an error or two at the start of the next season and was harshly dropped.

I'd imagine I speak for a lot of Arsenal fans when I voice my displeasure at permanently dropping him in 2007, he should have been restored after a few games on the sidelines and we would have been better off for it in the long run- instead Wenger took a gamble on Almunia, a move which would eventually prove to be a mistake.

I like many Arsenal fans was sad to see him depart in 2008 and it was great to see him come back for a little while in 2011 as cover, he even started one last game for us and did quite well.

An Arsenal legend in my opinion!:D

Thats a bit harsh on Almunia. As I recall Lehmann's form was dipping big time when he got dropped and when Almunia came in, he played very well with very few mistakes. He didnt do anything to warrent losing his place again that season. Lehmann then left before Almunia would lose his form again. If Lehmann had stuck around, he'd have gotten his place back. He left when Almunia was in good form for a change.

jordainius

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Thats a bit harsh on Almunia. As I recall Lehmann's form was dipping big time when he got dropped and when Almunia came in, he played very well with very few mistakes. He didnt do anything to warrent losing his place again that season. Lehmann then left before Almunia would lose his form again. If Lehmann had stuck around, he'd have gotten his place back. He left when Almunia was in good form for a change.

In the long run it was a mistake, he had an okay 12 months, so much so that there was talk of him taking English citizenship and declaring for England, but that was an indicator of the lack of goalkeeping talent in England at the time (and still now) compared to what they were used to up to ten years ago.

Almunia was never good enough in the long run, he had a good run of form for a year, but as the old saying goes; form is temporary, class is permanent. Normally that phrase is used the other way around but in Almunia's case I reckon his good run of form masked over his lack of class/all round ability.

brianblaze

Lifelong Arsenal fan...

Richard Wright

Andre Santos

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Igor Stepanovs ---- Sebastian Squillaci ---- Nelson Vivas

Remi Garde

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Glenn Helder

Francis Jeffers

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Marouane Chamakh ---- Kaba Diawara ---- Davor Suker

premierstone

brianblaze wrote: »

Lifelong Arsenal fan...

Richard Wright

Andre Santos

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Igor Stepanovs ---- Sebastian Squillaci ---- Nelson Vivas

Remi Garde

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Glenn Helder

Francis Jeffers

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Marouane Chamakh ---- Kaba Diawara ---- Davor Suker

Agree with all this apart from maybe Suker, he only made 22 league appearances, and 15 starts and scored 8 league goals. Absolutely nothing wrong with that strike rate, I think people judge him harshly because of that penalty and the fact he only played one season and then went to the hammers.

brianblaze

Maybe I'm soured on Suker because of how much we expected of him... I remember that summer being so excited after the World Cup in France that we were getting him!

The same season we were linked with the Rebrov/ Shevchecnko connection (After Dinamo suddenly were awesome in the Champions League the previous season with their double act) and I was convinced that Suker was a better bet.