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Could some Irish speakers provide me with a translation of this sentence please?

  • 06-05-2013 2:27pm
    #1
    silverdolphin
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  • #2
    An gal gréine
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    Breathnaítear (feictear) ar dlisteanú an cholscaradh mar shiombail de shaoirse.

    Wait for other answers or corrections to above.


  • #3
    Gumbi
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    An gal gréine wrote: »
    Breathnaítear (feictear) ar dlisteanú an cholscaradh mar shiombail de shaoirse.

    Wait for other answers or corrections to above.

    I would leave out the "de", it makes it unnatural to me.

    Breathnaítear (feictear) ar dlisteanú an cholscaradh mar shiombail saoirse.

    Also, ar lenites most things (some exceptions). D isn't one of them. It should be "ar dhlisteanú".


  • #4
    Insect Overlord
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    Gumbi wrote: »
    I would leave out the "de", it makes it unnatural to me.

    Breathnaítear (feictear) ar dlisteanú an cholscaradh mar shiombail saoirse.

    Also, ar lenites most things (some exceptions). D isn't one of them. It should be "ar dhlisteanú".

    I reckon colscaradh should be in the ginideach uatha as well, so:

    Breathnaítear ar dhlisteanú colscartha mar shiombail saoirse.


  • #5
    Gumbi
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    Insect Overlord wrote: »
    I reckon colscaradh should be in the ginideach uatha as well, so:

    Breathnaítear ar dhlisteanú colscartha mar shiombail saoirse.

    Agreed.


  • #6
    pog it
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    What about

    'Feictear gur siombail shaoirse dlisteanú colscartha'?

    I think saoirse here might get lenited due to genitive relation to siombail, the fact that it comes after feminine noun and because of the consan caol. Bit rusty these days on lenition rules though!


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  • #7
    deirdremf
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    pog it wrote: »
    What about

    'Feictear gur siombail shaoirse dlisteanú colscartha'?

    I think saoirse here might get lenited due to genitive relation to siombail, the fact that it comes after feminine noun and because of the consan caol. Bit rusty these days on lenition rules though!
    I think we're getting somewhere now. Of course, the original phrase is fairly stilted, so it is difficult to say it in anything like normal Irish.
    However, I'd make a couple of small changes to your good translation:
    'Feictear gur siombail den saoirse é dlisteanú an cholscartha'
    It seems to me that the article is used in this way much more in Irish than in English.
    Also I've put in "é" in the middle to break up the list of nouns - that sort of thing feels very unnatural to me.
    That said, we'll need a native speaker to actually make those calls.


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