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Breech flag for Hcap.

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  • 07-05-2013 8:59pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭


    Well lads just wondering are these a must for the Hcap. It's in the rules on the blog but I never heard anyone ever talking about them.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    The HCAP is done on the MNSCI range. The RO's there will insist on either a breach flag or the bolt & mag removed between movement from one firing point to the next. Even with the breach flag in or bolt & mag out the rifle must be pointed upward when moving forward to the next firing points.

    The RO's will be there and they will visually inspect each rifle before allowing anyone to move forward. For anyone attending this here are a few simple tips to help you for range etiquette.
    • First and foremost listen to the RO (Range Officer) at all times. Instructions for every step will be given so DO NOT assume anything. If unsure or if you did not hear the instruction stick the paw up and ask. There are numerous RO's on the the day.
    • When not being used the rifle should always be cased, and stored in a locked vehicle.
    • No firearms, uncased, behind the firing point will be permitted.
    • Anyone caught handling or moving an uncased/uncleared firearm behind the firing point will be approached by an RO.
    • DO NOT travel with the bolt and mag in the rifle to the range. When you arrive, and are called to the firing point you will be given the instruction from the RO to prepare yourself. It is at this point you may put in the bolt, and the mag.
    • DO NOT load the rifle until instructed by the RO.
    • Do not close the bolt on an emptry or loaded rifle until told to do so.
    • DO NOT load more than the instructed amount of rounds. This prevent someone having a "spare" round in the rifle.
    • As said above a breach flag is needed. However for those that do not have one you must remove the bolt, and mag when bringing the rifle to the firing point, and between movements to the next firing point. If you have a floor plate or blind mag take the bolt out/insert the breach flag, and you'll get the OK from an RO before moving.
    • NEVER, EVER approach/touch/adjust/handle any firearm on the firing point if there is someone down range. This sounds blatantly obvious, but when they are marking the scores you don't want a lad setting up of his own accord on the firing point. There is always a couple of RO's on the firing when scores are being marked, and they will be watching.
    • When finished your HCAP an RO will clear your rifle. The bolt, and mag stays in your pocket until you return to the firing point. You case your rifle, and then return it to your car. DO NOT load up your mag or insert the bolt. You can do this later at home.
    • DO NOT travel from the range to the range office without prior permission from an RO. There are multiple live ranges, and the RO will clear the other ranges before anyone can travel.


    I have seen experienced lads get flustered because they are not used to range protocols. It's not rocket science lads, and no one is out to get you. Just listen for instructions, and when in doubt ask. RO's will be clearly marked with Red jumpers, and/or blue jackets with Range Officer written across the back. They will be happy to help out where they can.


    In terms of gear. A lot of lads forget something on the morning. Most times they can be accommodated, but here is a quick checklist;
    1. Ammo - Bring more than enough. I've seen lads that only brought 20, and failed the exam, and then ran short of ammo on the re-try.
    2. Hearing protection - Ear plugs are not great, but accepted. Ear protectors are much preferred. Bring a set.
    3. Shooting sticks - They are needed for the standing shot.
    4. Bipod/Sandbag - Needed for the prone. Whichever you use when out in the field bring it.
    5. Cleaing gear - The range can get dusty so make sure you have some sort of bore snake or cleaning rod in case the rifle needs a quick pull through. Also some oil, and a few basic tols for adjusting the rifle, stock, scope, etc.


    Lastly your zero. Everyone believes their gun is "spot on" and then they are puzzled why they cannot hit the disc at 100 yards. The range will offer the opportunity to check your zero before going out to the HCAP range. Make use of it if you are at all in doubt.


    The only bit of personal advice i can give is to relax, and just shoot as you normally would. I realise for some/most it's a big thing, but if you've gotten this far it'd be silly to blow it due to nerves or anything else.
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    If you see a problem post use the report post function. Click on the three dots on the post, select "FLAG" & let a Moderator deal with it.

    Moderators - Cass otmmyboy2 , CatMod - Shamboc , Admins - Beasty , mickeroo



  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭marcp


    Thanks for that cass. Very helpfull indeed. I may try pick up a breech flag before the 18th or do you know can you get them up there.

    I'm in a bit of a pickle about removing my bolt, it's not as simple as pulling the trigger and pulling it out, when the gun was custom built the bolt that was used didnt suit the bolt release on the action, i have to carry a small flat screwdriver and push down a little flap on the top left side of the bolt, bit awkward but I may live with it.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    You can buy breech flags there, but if you want to make one that'll work too.

    Take a cable tie. Tie it into itself leaving a loop about 2-3" round. Get an orange or brightly coloured sticker and cover the "loop" with them.

    The loop prevents the tie falling through the ejection port/mag well, and the brightly coloured stickers make it clear at a glance that there is something in the action which prevents the bolt from being cycled/pushed forward.
    Forum Charter - Useful Information - Photo thread: Hardware - Ranges by County - Hunting Laws/Important threads - Upcoming Events - RFDs by County

    If you see a problem post use the report post function. Click on the three dots on the post, select "FLAG" & let a Moderator deal with it.

    Moderators - Cass otmmyboy2 , CatMod - Shamboc , Admins - Beasty , mickeroo



  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭marcp


    Cheers for that cass. I'll have a go at making one tonight


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