Fergie's Retirement Confirmed, Moyes confirmed as Man Utd Manager

darced

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nucker

Professional Griefer wrote: »

It would be hilarious if we appointed SAF.

Who?

Rekop dog

Jürgen Klopp

Think its safe to say whoever takes over won't get a fraction of the time to get things right similar to what Fergie got when he tookover, also whenever they concede a goal or get a bad result next season you can see the camera cutting to Fergie up in the crowd constantly reminding everyone of what they achieved under him. It's as close to a poison chalice position as you can get.

K-9

I don't know what more people expected of Moyes? They finished 4th the year Liverpool won the CL, then he had to compete with 4 of the top 7/8 teams in Europe for a few years when he did have some money, plus Villa and others spending big enough too. He has kept them competitive and managed a good attempt at 4th with barely no funds compared to Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool.

Barring a Cup win, what did people actually expect of him and Everton? As others said the likes of Sunderland had more money to spend, hell even Stoke had much more to play with the last few years.

Nuri Sahin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkw0syMoJDM

MisterAnarchy

CSF wrote: »

He hasn't actually massively overachieved in most of his seasons with Everton either. And let's not forget how close he came to getting Everton relegated early on. Alot of myths surround David Moyes.

My biggest worry about Moyes is his style of football .
Up until this season Everton have been an awful team to watch ,route one football for much of his time at Everton.

Will I Amnt

K-9 wrote: »

I don't know what more people expected of Moyes? They finished 4th the year Liverpool won the CL, then he had to compete with 4 of the top 7/8 teams in Europe for a few years when he did have some money, plus Villa and others spending big enough too. He has kept them competitive and managed a good attempt at 4th with barely no funds compared to Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool.

Barring a Cup win, what did people actually expect of him and Everton? As others said the likes of Sunderland had more money to spend, hell even Stoke had much more to play with the last few years.

Crazy stuff. He could well go and get United relegated or win the treble next season for all anybody here knows but you would think his Everton tenure wasn't really up for debate... apparently not.

Crerand, the guy is always super defensive and bitter. Most ManU fans I know think he's nuts

Kirby

Manuel Pellegrini

That guy is a bloody moron. Always has been.

Manc-Red

Alex Ferguson - a ruthless manager that brought us all amazing joy as United fans.

Never to be surpassed...

He is the Greatest Ever.

Mr.Nice Guy

Jürgen Klopp

CSF wrote: »

Yes, but not to the extent that he should be getting the United job. Man United should not be appointing a manager who has won nothing, never managed in the Premier League, and has an average Premier League position of 8th.

Doesn't compare in the slightest to what Fergie did before United.

Let's be realistic, Fergie will have his say on who the successor be. If he backs Moyes then logically it follows that he sees the qualities in Moyes that he possesses within himself.

As for winning nothing and European experience, Martin O'Neill has won plenty and has a very good European record and yet the majority around here don't rate him.

Ryu Hayabusa wrote:

The difference between 8th and 14th is minimal, both are mid table mediocrity, Moyes will be out of his depth.

Utd need someone who has inside ties with Man Utd such as Gary Neville who I think would make a fantastic manager or an individual with experience of top level management such as Heynckes or Sacchi.

That difference would not be sniffed at by Leeds fans. A big club that found itself not too big to drop. Moyes prevented Everton going south and steadied the ship since then. He transformed them from regular strugglers to a team regularly on the fringes of wealthier rival clubs. It would be akin to Tony Pulis turning Stoke into a Champions League challenging side. That is what Moyes did with Everton.

I think United need a manager who knows the club and its traditions. Moyes, if appointed, will become part of the fabric of the club the way he has at Everton and the way Fergie did at United. All of the other suggestions I've seen are managers who either go for short-term projects, or would be a total unknown quantity in England. I'd say it's unlikely Fergie would recommend such figures for the job.

Nuri Sahin

Other

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkw0syMoJDM

I really can't stand Paddy Crerand, he has to be one of the most stupid people to be ever allowed near a microphone.

Hulk Hands

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I think Moyes over-achieving has a lot of to do with teams below him under-achieving rather than Moyes being especially amazing.

Say this to a Liverpool fan in relation to the 2009 team (very true in the case of Chelsea), and watch them throw their hands in the air and start wailing

Inspector Coptoor

Jürgen Klopp

I wouldnt be up in arms over a Moyes appointment, as long as he brings Fellaini and baines with him!

It's gonna be a very interesting summer at Old Trafford, that's for sure.

Rooney, Ferdinand, Nani and Anderson could all be on the way out.

I'd like to see:
Baines
Fellaini
Lewandowski
come in this summer.


And you never know, with Mourihno leaving Real, players like Ozil and Kediera could come on the market

Gorilla Rising

Manuel Pellegrini

Rezident wrote: »

Highly successful manager but I'd have to say "the greatest manager of all time" would show more respect for referees

Ah the old 'high horse' excuse...for when you don't actually have a valid reason..

I suppose players like Suarez aren't really that good because of their behaviour? :rolleyes:

Anyone

Surely Utd would be better waiting until the season is over before appointing a manager? I mean there could be a number of managers available then Pulis,Pardew,Martinez to name a few

Reminds me of people saying Hodgson would be a decent manager at Liverpool

Will I Amnt

Anyone wrote: »

Surely Utd would be better waiting until the season is over before appointing a manager? I mean there could be a number of managers available then Pulis,Pardew,Martinez to name a few

You should put that in the humour thread, all the thanks you could ever desire will be yours. I almost choked on my own face from laughing at that.
Lolz. You should be a comedian, hilarious.

djPSB

I think Fergie was right to bow out now while he's at the top.

Always thought it would have been a good idea for Moyes to join him for a year before he took the job on his own. It would have been a good opportunity for him to learn the system that Fergie has in place.

Moyes taking the job on his own straight away could be difficult. He'll be under unbelievable pressure to deliver immediately. I think it could take him a while to adapt.

Chucky the tree

Jürgen Klopp

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Say this to a Liverpool fan in relation to the 2009 team (very true in the case of Chelsea), and watch them throw their hands in the air and start wailing

They'd probably just think that person is stupid rather than wailing about it, and they'd be right.

06/07 - Chelase(2nd) 83 points, United (winners) 89 points.
07-08 - Chelsea 85 points, league winners 87 points
08/09 - Chelsea 83 points, Liverpool 86 points, United 90 points.
09/10 - Chelsea(league winners) 86 points, United 2nd on 85 points.
10/11 - Chelsea (2nd) 71 poins, United (winners) 80 points.


As I said to claim the year Liverpool finished 2nd on 86 points was some freak year in which Chelsea(or any other team struggled) has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this forum.

joe123

Jürgen Klopp

W123-80's wrote: »

No, I am.
I wouldn't be much of a football fan though if I tried to argue that Alex Ferguson is not a living legend of the game.!

Obviously I would have prefered if I was witnessing 20 years of Liverpool domination, but such is football and life.

You said you were delighted to witness his tenure!? Crazy crazy statement from a liverpool fan. It was absolute torture.

Anyone

cambo2008 wrote: »

You should put that in the humour thread, all the thanks you could ever desire will be yours. I almost choked on my own face from laughing at that.
Lolz. You should be a comedian, hilarious.

No thanks, reactions like yours are better

Red Crow

rarnes1 wrote: »

Reminds me of people saying Hodgson would be a decent manager at Liverpool

Practice what you preach brother.

rarnes1 wrote:

why is it disrespectful? he's there not to rock the boat for the owners and just get on with managing the team, what else would you call that?
How about giving him a chance eh?

How do you know what his plans are? Were you chatting to him?

Look, I'm as píssed off as anyone in the way Rafa was treated but that's life, he's gone now. We have what we have.

Our club is pretty fúcked while G&H are there.That's not gonna change anytime soon.

At least we have a manager now in time for the new season.

Why not give Moyes a chance eh?

opr

Jürgen Klopp

How the hell a world brand like United still allow Crerand to commentate on the official channel is beyond belief.

Opr

I am pie

Jürgen Klopp

Yes, please give Martin O´Neill the job. (Say all Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Everton fans!) Look away now Sunderland fans..

Won plenty of titles in Scotland. Being a better manager than Walter Murray or Alec Mcleish is now the qualification required for the biggest job in English football and one of the biggest clubs in the world!

Appoint O'Neill....Euro dominance beckons ! Pretty pretty please appoint O´Neill.

Will I Amnt

Anyone wrote: »

No thanks, reactions like yours are better

Just pointing out how unoriginal and unfunny your post was.
It's content didn't bother me one bit. I just find it cringey to be regurgitating other people's "jokes" over and over all day.

Jamie Starr

Rekop dog wrote: »

Think its safe to say whoever takes over won't get a fraction of the time to get things right similar to what Fergie got when he tookover, also whenever they concede a goal or get a bad result next season you can see the camera cutting to Fergie up in the crowd constantly reminding everyone of what they achieved under him. It's as close to a poison chalice position as you can get.

Half the reason that I think Ferguson is leaving now is to make sure this situation doesn't arise. He's certainly involved in the selection of his successor, so he'll naturally back whoever it may be - especially considering the time he was given when he took charge. More importantly, Ferguson has left the club with an age-balanced, league-winning side of players he recruited. The incoming manager will be inherit many of Ferguson's players and the structure that Ferguson has established.

Certainly, whoever takes over will be under pressure - but I think Ferguson's decision to retire now, making a measured and planned transition as the top team in the league, goes at least a small way to relieving that pressure. It's for that exact reason I think that appointing David Moyes wouldn't be suicide from the club's perspective - Moyes is someone whose ego can handle being part of a tradition, a hierarchy, a system. Having Bobby Charlton and Ferguson as directors would suggest to me that whoever is appointed as manager, they will have more time and understanding given to them at Manchester United than at any other club of the same status.

Mr.Micro

djPSB wrote: »

I think Fergie was right to bow out now while he's at the top.

Always thought it would have been a good idea for Moyes to join him for a year before he took the job on his own. It would have been a good opportunity for him to learn the system that Fergie has in place.

Moyes taking the job on his own straight away could be difficult. He'll be under unbelievable pressure to deliver immediately. I think it could take him a while to adapt.

After a season and if Man Utd not where it wants to be, cue Ferguson doing a Scholesy and coming out of retirement?

Eli Manning

Eli Manning wrote: »

Practice what you preach brother.



Why not give Moyes a chance eh?

How's that me saying Hodgson was a good manager?

Liam O

Haha "Hans Christian Anderson told me, Walt Disney Told me".

Crerand is gas.

wandatowell

CSF wrote: »

No not really.

CSF

Manuel Pellegrini

Eli Manning wrote: »

He's overachieved at Everton. To suggest otherwise is complete rubbish. Klopp got relegated with Mainz. There are certain clubs that you can bring no further and it becomes hard to win. Moyes hasn't got that break at a big side and now it looks like he will.

Mainz and Everton are not comparable. Just how low do you think Evertons budget is?

Red Crow

CSF wrote: »

Mainz and Everton are not comparable. Just how low do you think Evertons budget is?

Akin to Everton and United.

CSF

Manuel Pellegrini

Eli Manning wrote: »

Akin to Everton and United.

Agreed and I think United need to go for someone with a proven record of success operating at a similar level to United, rather than going for a manager in Fergusons mould, but ultimately nowhere near his level.

bhamsteve

Jürgen Klopp

CSF wrote: »

Mainz and Everton are not comparable. Just how low do you think Evertons budget is?

Total net spend for his time at Everton is £10m. That makes them somewhere around the 24th highest spending team in England during his tenure.
Total wages would put them around 10th highest spending in the premier league.

CSF

Manuel Pellegrini

bhamsteve wrote: »

Total net spend for his time at Everton is £10m. That makes them somewhere around the 24th highest spending team in England during his tenure.
Total wages would put them around 10th highest spending in the premier league.

Wage budget.

pavb2

Might have been said before but a role in Scotland's national team would be a good idea

nucker

rarnes1 wrote: »

Reminds me of people saying Hodgson would be a decent manager at Liverpool

You get Man Utd fans saying that he was good enough for Liverpool, so if that is the case, why not United? :pac:

Paully D

Poor appointment for a club of that stature IMO but Fergie knows a lot more than me about who is the right man for that club. Still, I don't think it will work out.

Will I Amnt

nucker wrote: »

You get Man Utd fans saying that he was good enough for Liverpool, so if that is the case, why not United? :pac:

Think about it... Not even that hard, just think a little and it should come to you straight away.

nucker

cambo2008 wrote: »

Think about it... Not even that hard, just think a little and it should come to you straight away.

I did think about it :eek:

IvySlayer

Manuel Pellegrini

nucker wrote: »

You get Man Utd fans saying that he was good enough for Liverpool, so if that is the case, why not United? :pac:

Manchester United are on a different planet when comparing the jobs.

Will I Amnt

nucker wrote: »

I did think about it :eek:

Cool. Keep it to yourself, don't tell anybody... And I mean ANYBODY!!!

yabadabado

nucker wrote: »

You get Man Utd fans saying that he was good enough for Liverpool, so if that is the case, why not United? :pac:

bassy

The weirdest thing is there's not even a mention of mourhino in any of this or anyone else for that matter,it's all about David moyes even the bookies see it that way.

disappointed we didn't get Jose as I think the success would have continued and we would of also been serious contenders for the champions lge etc

But with moyes I'm not sure it's gonna be dodgey as to which way it will work,but I bet you the will give moyes forever to win a trophy.

Beefy78

Jose Mourinho

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Why is Jupp Heynckes in the poll? He has confirmed he is retiring.

Link?

Grid.

Moyes it is then!;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/

loyatemu

I like Moyes - I hope he is successful. However, it looks like Chelsea will have Mourinho back and there is no doubt that he is a better manager than Moyes (or Mancini or Wenger).

Ferguson has been the difference for United this year (and indeed last year when they should've won it) - he could have managed any of the top 4 squads to the title. They need to intelligently freshen up the squad over the summer to give Moyes a fighting chance (bringing Fellaini with him would be a start).

NabyLadistheman

You'd have to wonder about Moyes been the man to be given the job. My viewpoint has always been United will always be there or there abouts as far as challenging for the title goes. This obviously with Fergie in charge.

Moyes will never have seen this sort of pressure. Qhat happens after a poor start to the season? As for a 2 legged champions league tie Id have massive reservations about experience and tactical nous on how to approach a tie. How long did it take Fergie?

Courtesy Flush

Jürgen Klopp

If Moyes doesnt win the league will he be a failure ?