Fergie's Retirement Confirmed, Moyes confirmed as Man Utd Manager

Pj!

Jürgen Klopp

Bloody hell. I just came home to all of this. Can't be true can it?
Don't do it Fergie! Please God not now!

ArmaniJeanss

Aidric wrote: »

As the Telegraph article alludes to, any significant information would have to be made public:


"With United now forced to adhere to the strict rules and regulations of the New York Stock Exchange in terms of the release of significant information relating to the running of the club following last August’s partial flotation, any change of management would fall within those requirements."

Fairly sure this is bollix, which may or may not be a sign that the whole article is bollix.
Clubs listed on stock exchanges have previously changed manager overnight with zero warning, e.g., Tottenham caught us on the hop with the Harry Redknapp one last June.

I doubt the NYSE rules are any different to the LSE (London) rules.

nullzero

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Hands up if you've just realised there'll be no sleeping tonight as you wait for the story to unfold!

I'd say this story has been ready to go towards the end of this season for some time. Winning the league meant it was going to make retirement more probable. Suarez's bite filled the back pages a few weeks ago and now the season it spluttering to a close now that wigan are almost certain to go down. The race for fourth will only distract people for so long. Its funny how this story has only been upgraded from a rumour earlier tonight to a back page headline in the hour or so since its been almost decided that wigan will be relegated; 'swap that GREAT ESCAPE? headline for the back-up 'FERGIE TIME' headline'...

PhlegmyMoses

Jürgen Klopp

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I am shocked that you could make such a suggestion as a Liverpool supporter. Do you not know the history of how Bill Shankly was kept out of the club after he retired in order to prevent him from undermining Paisley?

If Moyes is to take the job, just give it to him properly and show him real confidence.

Meh, not all situations work out the same. From what I know of the Shankly story, he found it very hard to let go to the point where he was getting snippy about not being brought to away games on the club's dollar after he had retired and was turning up for training at Melwood. There is no suggestion that Ferguson is of a similar character to Shankly in that way, not least because he barely takes training sessions these days anyway!

token101

8.30 in the morning here. Jesus I'm feeling fierce fluey all of a sudden.

Moyes to take over if it's not all nonsense.

Ryu Hayabusa

cambo2008 wrote: »

I just count sheep premier league titles.

You will be waiting a long time for the next one when Ferguson retires

irish bloke

IvySlayer wrote: »

He's 71.

After City won the league with their money, Fergie took the challenge and won the title, again.

He didn't retire after the Invincibles won the league or when Mourinho won it twice in a row, he took the challenge and got the titles back...

Exactly, 71...
Normal retirement age is 65. I'll be happy to be able to take a p.iss at that age, not to mind managing one of the biggest football teams in the world.

Will I Amnt

Ryu Hayabusa wrote: »

You will be waiting a long time for the next one when Ferguson retires

If we never win another I'll still have been spoiled...

Aidric

Jürgen Klopp

efb wrote: »

When does SSN just loop, and isn't live?

I just tweeted Hayley McQueen for a pic of her tits...oh and also if she knows anything about these Fergie rumours.

NabyLadistheman

If he does retire and David Moyes is recruited it will be a grave error in judgement and a monumental f**k up IMO

Augmerson

If Fergie goes who will I have to deeply resent for winning ****ing everything?

messinkiapina

Jürgen Klopp

No matter who replaces Ferguson, it will be a downgrade. Mourinho, Klopp, Guardiola, De Boer, all downgrades. I'm no United fan, but the guy is head and shoulders above any other manager I've seen in the 25 or so years I've been watching football.

Aidric

Jürgen Klopp

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Fairly sure this is bollix, which may or may not be a sign that the whole article is bollix.
Clubs listed on stock exchanges have previously changed manager overnight with zero warning, e.g., Tottenham caught us on the hop with the Harry Redknapp one last June.

I doubt the NYSE rules are any different to the LSE (London) rules.

I'll bow to your superior knowledge AJ, but in strictly business terms the logic stacks up.

El Inho

Jürgen Klopp

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I am shocked that you could make such a suggestion as a Liverpool supporter. Do you not know the history of how Bill Shankly was kept out of the club after he retired in order to prevent him from undermining Paisley?

If Moyes is to take the job, just give it to him properly and show him real confidence.

I'm personally shocked that I even see your comments. I ignored you ages ago and you've popped up again. Your talking non-sense again because there are no connections between what you are saying and what I am saying.

ArmaniJeanss

Aidric wrote: »

I'll bow to your superior knowledge AJ, but in strictly business terms the logic stacks up.

Nah, no superior knowledge really, just guesswork :pac:

PhlegmyMoses

Jürgen Klopp

irish bloke wrote: »

Exactly, 71...
Normal retirement age is 65. I'll be happy to be able to take a p.iss at that age, not to mind managing one of the biggest football teams in the world.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, nobody told him he had to be able to take a piss as well.

Lord TSC

Manuel Pellegrini

Ugh, I was up early this morning so now have a quandry. I'm wrecked and need the sleep. But I don't want to miss anything.

I know that by staying awake, nothing will happen.

I know by going asleep, he'll retire, Jose will be announced to replace and he'll then tell the world he's bringing Ronaldo with him...

ciano1

Manuel Pellegrini

If Fergie retires, I'll never listen to the Black Eyed Peas ever again! :O

Andersonisgod

messinkiapina wrote: »

No matter who replaces Ferguson, it will be a downgrade. Mourinho, Klopp, Guardiola, De Boer, all downgrades. I'm no United fan, but the guy is head and shoulders above any other manager I've seen in the 25 or so years I've been watching football.

Great manager but I am going to have to stop you there. Mourinho is a downgrade? He's coached in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain and been successful in each country. He's won two Champions League's with two different teams (neither of which had a squad that looked likely to win a Champions League before he was at the club) and has won trophies domestically in each country. Mourinho is never a downgrade.

Guardiola is no downgrade either. Fashioned a new brand of football that has influenced and changed the game. The driving force behind the greatest team of its generation. A great man manager.

There's a case to be made for Klopp too.

I am not having a go at Ferguson, not at all, but a downgrade is the wrong word to use.

efb

Bored now. night.

Will I Amnt

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Ugh, I was up early this morning so now have a quandry. I'm wrecked and need the sleep. But I don't want to miss anything.

I know that by staying awake, nothing will happen.

I know by going asleep, he'll retire, Jose will be announced to replace and he'll then tell the world he's bringing Ronaldo with him...

Go to bed, nothing's going to happen tonight.

Fart

Carlos Queiroz back to United?

He is quite old and I would like him to enjoy his retirement; he has certainly deserved it.
Would be sad to see him go. I love Man United but it will feel so different without him as I'm 25 and he's been the United manager all my life.

PhlegmyMoses

Jürgen Klopp

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Great manager but I am going to have to stop you there. Mourinho is a downgrade? He's coached in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain and been successful in each country. He's won two Champions League's with two different teams (neither of which had a squad that looked likely to win a Champions League before he was at the club) and has won trophies domestically in each country. Mourinho is never a downgrade.

Guardiola is no downgrade either. Fashioned a new brand of football that has influenced and changed the game. The driving force behind the greatest team of its generation. A great man manager.

There's a case to be made for Klopp too.

I am not having a go at Ferguson, not at all, but a downgrade is the wrong word to use.

You're talking to United fans mate. Everyone after Ferguson is a downgrade to them and rightly so. It's completely understandable.

Aidric

Jürgen Klopp

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Nah, no superior knowledge really, just guesswork :pac:

In line with the thread theme then :pac:

Francie Barrett

Jürgen Klopp

El Spearo wrote: »

I'm personally shocked that I even see your comments. I ignored you ages ago and you've popped up again. Your talking non-sense again because there are no connections between what you are saying and what I am saying.

You've ignored me, so you're now speaking to me

Andersonisgod

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

You're talking to United fans mate. Everyone after Ferguson is a downgrade to them and rightly so. It's completely understandable.

Fair enough, and perhaps I didn't consider the context. I am just saying that on a general stage, and were it not simply a case of "who can do a better job at Man Utd than Ferguson" then I think both Mourinho and Guardiola are on par with Ferguson.

irishfeen

Manuel Pellegrini

10am press conference seems to be doing the rounds on twitter.

Aidric

Jürgen Klopp

Have all betting markets been suspended on this? Can't find anything open, if indeed there was anything open. My head hurts.

Pj!

Jürgen Klopp

So what do we actually know? Is there definitely a statement going to be made as has been suggested? Club officials are refusing to confirm or deny the rumours.

Why would Utd be announcing a new assistant manager at this time of the season? If Moyes was to become assistant manager as has been suggested, wouldn't they wait until the season is over?!
If Fergie was going to retire, he really would do it this week wouldn't he? His last Premiership home game being crowned as Champions. It also gives the club plenty of time to suss out replacements.



Worried now.

El Inho

Jürgen Klopp

Francie Barrett wrote: »

You've ignored me, so you're now speaking to me

maybe it wasn't you i placed in my ignore list.

Lord TSC

Manuel Pellegrini

irishfeen wrote: »

10am press conference seems to be doing the rounds on twitter.

Saw that, but it looks like one guy said it and everyone retweeted.

I fear that this whole thing is just one guy sitting in a basement laughing away at how a rumour has taken off....

PhlegmyMoses

Jürgen Klopp

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Fair enough, and perhaps I didn't consider the context. I am just saying that on a general stage, and were it not simply a case of "who can do a better job at Man Utd than Ferguson" then I think both Mourinho and Guardiola are on par with Ferguson.

Nah, Mourinho maybe if he can settle down and build a dynasty. That's his last goal really. Since his Porto job he has been bankrolled an unholy amount at every club he has been at. Guardiola has years to go yet before he proves himself on that level. Did great stuff with Barca but needs to do more to be considered as one of the greats. People forget that Ferguson did the small club to European and league success thing at Aberdeen. He then rejuvenated an ailing club before consolidating this success over the next 20 years on an unprecedented level. There are very few comparisons, really. Shankly in England, anyway. After that, not sure.

Paully D

NiallSparky wrote: »

Alan Curbishley only 100/1. Coincidence? I think not...

@TopTopPundit

Today, Alan 'Curbs' Curbishley will spend 14 hours staring at his Nokia 3210.

It will not ring.

:pac:

irishfeen

Manuel Pellegrini

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Saw that, but it looks like one guy said it and everyone retweeted.

I fear that this whole thing is just one guy sitting in a basement laughing away at how a rumour has taken off....

I'd actually prefer this to be a sick rumour then to see the boss bow out.

MD1990

Jürgen Klopp

1. Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 1m
   Fairly sure that these aren´t rumours
   
   Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 2m
   
   
   
2. Very close to the anniversary of Gothenburg and I think it´s end of an era for Sir Alex
   
   

irish bloke

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Fair enough, and perhaps I didn't consider the context. I am just saying that on a general stage, and were it not simply a case of "who can do a better job at Man Utd than Ferguson" then I think both Mourinho and Guardiola are on par with Ferguson.

Guardiola has no legacy plus had Messi in his team, not to mention Xavi and Iniesta.

Steve Staunton would have won what Pep won with those players.

Lord TSC

Manuel Pellegrini

Can people not post random twitter posts without explaining why I should find them more credible than "littlemisssexxxxxy615124"?

Hulk Hands

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Fair enough, and perhaps I didn't consider the context. I am just saying that on a general stage, and were it not simply a case of "who can do a better job at Man Utd than Ferguson" then I think both Mourinho and Guardiola are on par with Ferguson.

Mourinho you can make a (small) case for. Guardiola on a par with Ferguson? GTFO

IrishIrish

Jürgen Klopp

irishfeen wrote: »

I'd actually prefer this to be a sick rumour then to see the boss bow out.

I think most people would....

MD1990

Jürgen Klopp

its makes no sense though since Ferguson was talkin about funds for new players a few days ago

Copper_pipe

I'm off to bed,

Francie Barrett

Jürgen Klopp

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Meh, not all situations work out the same. From what I know of the Shankly story, he found it very hard to let go to the point where he was getting snippy about not being brought to away games on the club's dollar after he had retired and was turning up for training at Melwood. There is no suggestion that Ferguson is of a similar character to Shankly in that way, not least because he barely takes training sessions these days anyway!

I guarantee you it will affect the players. If you bring in a manager and you subject him to this unusual structure then you're basically saying to the players we don't have full confidence in our manager. With even a slight doubt in the minds of the players, all you'll need is a few bad results then confidence and morale will collapse.

nullzero

MD1990 wrote: »

1. Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 1m
   Fairly sure that these aren´t rumours
   
   Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 2m
   
   
   
2. Very close to the anniversary of Gothenburg and I think it´s end of an era for Sir Alex
   
   

We can relax now. Graham Hunter is a spoofer extrordinaire. He had Ronaldo getting into a taxi to the Bernebeau from the airport in Madrid in July 2008, he gave his personal guarantee of an exclusive on that one. Graham Hunter = pinch of salt.

messinkiapina

Jürgen Klopp

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Great manager but I am going to have to stop you there. Mourinho is a downgrade? He's coached in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain and been successful in each country. He's won two Champions League's with two different teams (neither of which had a squad that looked likely to win a Champions League before he was at the club) and has won trophies domestically in each country. Mourinho is never a downgrade.

Guardiola is no downgrade either. Fashioned a new brand of football that has influenced and changed the game. The driving force behind the greatest team of its generation. A great man manager.

There's a case to be made for Klopp too.

I am not having a go at Ferguson, not at all, but a downgrade is the wrong word to use.

It's more of a compliment to Ferguson than a slight at those other managers.

You maybe have an argument for Mourinho, he is a great manager for sure, but I still disagree that he is nearly as good as Ferguson.

Guardiola did a great job at Barcelona but he also had some of the best players in the history of the game at his disposal. Sure, they've fallen away this season under Vilanova, but the rot started last year while Guardiola was still in charge.

Klopp has done a fine job at Dortmund too, but he has a very long way to go to be considered in the same class as Ferguson.

irish bloke

MD1990 wrote: »

its makes no sense though since Ferguson was talkin about funds for new players a few days ago

That's coz Moyes will be number 2 and AF will stay on for another bit

irishfeen

Manuel Pellegrini

IrishIrish wrote: »

I think most people would....

.. a lot of Liverpool fans may see it as a blessing... maybe they might think of buying a few supply's for their old tattered, worn out perch

alchemist33

Jürgen Klopp

From The Telegraphs's Top 10 candidates to replace SAF...

Mike Phelan
Age: 50
Current club: Manchester United
Pros: Will seamlessly carry on Ferguson's style. Has good relationship with the players. Has plenty of practice in front of the media.
Cons: Unlikely to be a long-term solution. Has never been anything more than an assistant. Frequently wears shorts on touchline.

Blatter

MD1990 wrote: »

1. Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 1m
   Fairly sure that these aren´t rumours
   
   Graham Hunter ‏@BumperGraham 2m
   
   
   
2. Very close to the anniversary of Gothenburg and I think it´s end of an era for Sir Alex
   
   

Graham Hunter wouldn't have a breeze about anything going on at Man Utd.

Lumbo

Jürgen Klopp

irish bloke wrote: »

That's coz Moyes will be number 2 and AF will stay on for another bit

People believe that's actually going to happen :rolleyes:

irish bloke

Blatter wrote: »

Graham Hunter wouldn't have a breeze about anything going on at Man Utd.

Wasn't he a Gladiator?