Fiesta ST 1.6 Ecoboost 180bhp 6 speed.

GavRedKing

I've not checked the market for them here, dont think I've seen more than one for sale in Ireland so I'm not sure what theyre worth but there holding decent value in the UK at the moment and I've seen one imported in Cork the last few months.

That will change when the new one drops but IMO, I'm not a fan of the new Fiesta and the proposed ST isnt all that exciting.

I might be tempted to sale it at some stage but if I was I'd be looking a Focus ST or RS, more doors really.

I know theres a 5 door ST coming in the new form but a buddy in work has a 5 door Fiesta and its not exactly a big car, the GFs 5 door Polo feels considerably bigger than it.

So in short, I love my ST, I'm at 33K at the moment, bought new in January 16, have a few small mods and apart from putting tyres on it, have had no issue with it so far, cracking little car.

PCeeeee

That's great to hear. I have been watching then a long time now but it's a big outa my budget. Truth be told I was going they'd be cheaper second hand!

GavRedKing

You might have joy in England. Theres many more in that market and even witht he VRT considered you might be lucky and get a bargain.

GavRedKing

Just done a check there, its about €3,700 - €3,900 VRT for a 2016 ST2.

Theyve got the OMSP down as nearly 20k which is optimistic IMO.

fletch

Good few for sale at the moment.

PCeeeee

No chance of 20k for a 2016 I would have thought.

hooch-85

I have a 2016 one too, was following them when they first came out and took the plunge when Ford brought in the real deal savings. I love it too but i am getting married next year so will probably look into something bigger too in 2019, possibly a MK7 Golf GTI/GTD or Skoda VRS. I like the current model Focus ST but the 2.0 ecoboosts seem to be troublesome enough and the diesel one doesn't really appeal.

I think 15k euro would be a fair enough price for a 3 year old one. If I got that when I go to sell mine i'd be happy with that.

Jentle Grenade

I adore mine but as a fairly pregnant lady it's going to have to go soon Mine is a January 2016 model with 28,000km. I've changed the tyres on my winter alloys once, my only real expense apart from small mods (suspension and audio mainly). It has honestly been the most "fun" car I've ever owned. Every time I walk away from it I look back and smile. The only let down for me is the ICE, it's poor for its generation. I'd keep it in a heart beat but it makes no practical sense to. Seriously, could not reccomend it enough.

The thought of having a baby seat in the back is ludicrous given the space. I test drove the Focus and didn't like it at all. Really not a Golf person so not sure where I'm going to go. Hoping that I will be able to get a good price for the FST though.

Paudee

I've only had mine a few months, have done 5k in it and I walk to work. Forget about a quick spin to the shops if you buy one, journeys that used to take five minutes now take 25 it's an absolute hoot!

kerten

Jentle Grenade wrote: »

I adore mine but as a fairly pregnant lady it's going to have to go soon Mine is a January 2016 model with 28,000km. I've changed the tyres on my winter alloys once, my only real expense apart from small mods (suspension and audio mainly). It has honestly been the most "fun" car I've ever owned. Every time I walk away from it I look back and smile. The only let down for me is the ICE, it's poor for its generation. I'd keep it in a heart beat but it makes no practical sense to. Seriously, could not reccomend it enough.

The thought of having a baby seat in the back is ludicrous given the space. I test drove the Focus and didn't like it at all. Really not a Golf person so not sure where I'm going to go. Hoping that I will be able to get a good price for the FST though.

Mazda 3 with 2.0lt petrol engine maybe ?

Nice interior, low tax, above average performance and good underpinnings.

Paudee

Got mine serviced at a main dealer recently as needed some stuff looked at under warranty, also gives the roadside cover. Apparently there's a recall for an update on something I didn't quite catch. Anybody else hear anything?

GavRedKing

Ya, its some update to the ECU.

I'm not 100% sure what it is because I seen it on a Fiesta UK FB page during the summer.

I went to my dealer and they had no clue, put the car reg in to the computer and up it popped.

Paudee

GavRedKing wrote: »

Ya, its some update to the ECU.

I'm not 100% sure what it is because I seen it on a Fiesta UK FB page during the summer.

I went to my dealer and they had no clue, put the car reg in to the computer and up it popped.

It's probably totally in my head but the car feels less torquey, I also thought they'd done something to the sound symposer but I'm probably just being mental. I'll take it out again tomorrow for a proper spin.

hooch-85

Yep had mine done too and thought it was something to do with the Cat?

hooch-85

This thread is gone fairly quiet!

How's are the STer's getting on?

Mine is in for 60k service today, still going great. Did a few small tweaks to keep me interested.

Anyone tempted by the MK8, i must say it looks well on the Ford website. I wonder how the 5 door will look? Looking around the new Fiesta they seem a bigger car in general

https://www.ford.ie/future-vehicles/new-fiesta-st

Alanstrainor

There's 2 brand new model Fiestas near me, not ST just your standard fair. And I have to say I don't like the new styling. Especially the rear end, I much preferred the last generation as far as looks.

GavRedKing

hooch-85 wrote: »

This thread is gone fairly quiet!

How's are the STer's getting on?

Mine is in for 60k service today, still going great. Did a few small tweaks to keep me interested.

Anyone tempted by the MK8, i must say it looks well on the Ford website. I wonder how the 5 door will look? Looking around the new Fiesta they seem a bigger car in general

https://www.ford.ie/future-vehicles/new-fiesta-st

My one is going in for its 2nd service Monday, 38k on the clock.

I'll be honest, I think aopart from the interior, the new ST looks like an absolute dog. The wheels look cheap, the rear looks like a B Max and the front is very tame.

I wont be changing anytime soon. I think the new model ST will be available toward the end of the year, but im not entirely sure, I'll ask Monday.

Also looking at the price of the Fiesta Vignale at 26.5K without options, I reckon the ST will be priced very near, if not 30k.

I will say though that I like the interior, my biggest issue with the current ST is that interior is looks really dated.

If I was staying in the hot hatch market for a similar price I'd probably look at a new Polo GTi, only thing that would stop me is herself has a 151 Polo GT.

GavRedKing

Just done a quick spec up on an ST line on the Ford site, to something I'd want if I was getting one, came in at roughly 28k.

That was with pretty much every option, bar the sun roof, painted roof/mirrors as the standard ST line is I think a shade under 20k.

Donnelly117

I'm just after rolling over 28k km this week, getting 4 new tyres put on it tomorrow and sending it in for the 2 year service in February! Must decide what to do with it after that, not sure if I'll keep or change it!

Agree with Gav on the mk8, I think the back looks like a shrunken bmax and wouldn't be mad on the wheels. The interior is a nice upgrade though!

hooch-85

Some juicy details coming out the last few days about the mk8, passive dampers, optional quaife LSD, Pilot SuperSport tyres, it's shaping up to be a serious car. Hopefully they get the pricing right here. I can see it being over 30k maybe even mid 30s for a top spec car.

GavRedKing

I still dont like it TBH, its going ot be a seriously capable machine but us Paddys will get roasted on the price (nothing new).

The Polo GTi plus, the top spec, in basic form is £22,650 in the UK or roughly €25.5K, add you VRT and the likes you're going to be north of 30K, if they bring that model here.

I think the Fiesta ST will be a fantastic car but I dont think I could live with the looks, even if it does look like itsa going to be a serious machine.

I am thinking about selling mine at the moment for a mortgage.

If I do go after a Mk8 at some stage, it would probably be in 2020.

Henry Ford III

New model looks promising ok. Significantly wider front track is a major difference.

GavRedKing

Any idea when we'll see them in Irish showrooms, I'm assuming 3rd quarter of this year?

Henry Ford III

GavRedKing wrote: »

Any idea when we'll see them in Irish showrooms, I'm assuming 3rd quarter of this year?

Possibly.

I reckon it'll be a good while before they discount them much. For the 181 campaign all new model Fiestas were €1000 off. Other models were considerably more.

dar83

GavRedKing wrote: »

I still dont like it TBH, its going ot be a seriously capable machine but us Paddys will get roasted on the price (nothing new).

The Polo GTi plus, the top spec, in basic form is £22,650 in the UK or roughly €25.5K, add you VRT and the likes you're going to be north of 30K, if they bring that model here.

I think the Fiesta ST will be a fantastic car but I dont think I could live with the looks, even if it does look like itsa going to be a serious machine.

I am thinking about selling mine at the moment for a mortgage.

If I do go after a Mk8 at some stage, it would probably be in 2020.

The new Polo GTI will start at €32k here, so you can bet that the top spec one will be into low end GTI money on these shores. :rolleyes:

GavRedKing

The colour of Mk8 ST videos doing the rounds, looks similar to the colour that they had the Focus RS down for pre-launch that never came out.

I think in the right colour and in 3 door, the new ST could be a nice car.

JohnBoy26

I think it's nicer looking than it's predecessor which is starting to look a bit dated now and very dated on the inside.

GavRedKing

I prefer the Mk7 ST on the outside to this but it is growing on me, I dont like the wheels omn the Mk8 either, I hope theres a different option our style as I think they look a bit off.

I'll 100% agree on the interior though, its shockingly dated across the Focus ST/RS range too IMO.

But the Mk7 ST interior is a pretty bland place to be, driving position is good but thats about it. The interior changes were very much needed compared to its rivals.

Although I'm not 100% sold on the new screen, it looks brilliant when in use, but if it was hidden when not in use it would be a much better look for the car, again, IMO.

JoeA3

I was driving behind a basic 181 Fiesta in early Jan and tbh I thought Ford had made a balls of it... there was a very strong hint of Nissan Pulsar (?) from the rear end design - not good. But a couple of weeks ago I saw another one, a black ST Line and I thought it looked really smart. So the "ST" body kit and decent wheels and colour make a huge difference. I'm sure the new ST will look A1 in the metal. And yeah, the interior of the old one was getting on a fair bit.

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hooch-85

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The press cars are only being made available in May. It'll be at least q4 this year before any dealers have them. First ones registered in Ireland will be late 182, possibly even 191.

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hooch-85

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Exactly as passenger runs but not being made fully available until May. It'll be a good few months after that before they hit the showrooms. UK may have them available before us but the op referred to Irish showrooms

GavRedKing

I'd say it'll be universally loved the car, the old model was the darling of the motor journos back in 2013/14 and theyve still got a soft spot for it now if you look for info on the Mk8 they talk fondly of the Mk7.

Theres a lot of features on the Mk8 that I'd love but the looks are very subjective, its something I cant really get over but in the right colour I think it will be a good car.

If there is no other wheel options, the first thing I'd do is get another set of alloys for the car.

Just on the delivery time, I wonder will the factory shut downs over the summer effect delivery time, dont they usually close for 2 or 3 weeks in July or August and the production line grinds to a halt?

hooch-85

GavRedKing wrote: »

If there is no other wheel options, the first thing I'd do is get another set of alloys for the car.

The 18" wheels are optional, 17" standard, possibly something similar to the ST Line wheels. I'm not a huge fan of the 18s yet but maybe they will look better in person. I think the wheels on the MK7 were pretty spot on, they are tough too mine have hit an inevitable few potholes and no leaks/buckles thank god.

There's a whole new model Focus due soon too, i wonder what kind of ST they will come up with for that.

JohnBoy26

GavRedKing wrote: »

I prefer the Mk7 ST on the outside to this but it is growing on me, I dont like the wheels omn the Mk8 either, I hope theres a different option our style as I think they look a bit off.

I'll 100% agree on the interior though, its shockingly dated across the Focus ST/RS range too IMO.

But the Mk7 ST interior is a pretty bland place to be, driving position is good but thats about it. The interior changes were very much needed compared to its rivals.

Although I'm not 100% sold on the new screen, it looks brilliant when in use, but if it was hidden when not in use it would be a much better look for the car, again, IMO.

I actually like the wheels tbh

GavRedKing

hooch-85 wrote: »

The 18" wheels are optional, 17" standard, possibly something similar to the ST Line wheels. I'm not a huge fan of the 18s yet but maybe they will look better in person. I think the wheels on the MK7 were pretty spot on, they are tough too mine have hit an inevitable few potholes and no leaks/buckles thank god.

There's a whole new model Focus due soon too, i wonder what kind of ST they will come up with for that.

We'll probably be waiting a good 2 years for a new Focus ST, I'd expect the power of that to stay in and around the same, 250bhp but I wouldnt mind seeing more power in it.

The last model didnt sell in huge numbers either I think people went with or should I say, still choose the GTi over it, which is a fantastic car and if it was my money, I'd take a GTi over a Focus ST, but if they get the interior right and up to date like they have with the Fiesta, it might get people thinking about shiffting to the Focus ST, I've always found GTis pretty bland on the outside but the interior on the Mk7/7.5 compared to the Focus is considerably better.

GavRedKing

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

I actually like the wheels tbh

They do fill the wheel arch better then the Mk7, 17" wheels.

To me, the Mk7 looks very high standard. I fitted 30mm H&R springs and it makes the car look much better, I was toying with the idea of the 50mm H&R springs but with the splitter fitted, it would have caused serious issues with speed bumps.

ShadowHearth

dar83 wrote: »

The new Polo GTI will start at €32k here, so you can bet that the top spec one will be into low end GTI money on these shores. :rolleyes:

Is it even coming here? I really love the new platform and polo gti was an option in two and a half years to replace mine Seat ibiza cupra. Though if price starts at 32k for basic model, then theu can **** off.

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ShadowHearth

testicles wrote: »

It is, arrives in the next few weeks.

And price is 32k for bare bones? Thats mad considering my cupra was 24k and came with a ton of standard equipment.

So looks like I might go for 1-3 year old Leon cupra and it will actually turn out cheaper.

I sow new fiesta st is going to be available in 4 doors, but I really dont like how it looks. 2 door is a bit better, but not by much. From exterior I prefer old one a lot more.

JohnBoy26

ShadowHearth wrote: »

And price is 32k for bare bones? Thats mad considering my cupra was 24k and came with a ton of standard equipment.

So looks like I might go for 1-3 year old Leon cupra and it will actually turn out cheaper.

I sow new fiesta st is going to be available in 4 doors, but I really dont like how it looks. 2 door is a bit better, but not by much. From exterior I prefer old one a lot more.

The 2 door fiesta is much better looking than the 5 door imo.

grogi

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The 2 door fiesta is much better looking than the 5 door imo.

Fiesta is 3 and 5 door. In some markets 4 door (everything looks better than it).




Unless you were you talking about such beauty, there isn't 2 door Fiesta...

JohnBoy26

grogi wrote: »

Fiesta is 3 and 5 door. In some markets 4 door (everything looks better than it).




Unless you were you talking about such beauty, there isn't 2 door Fiesta...

I was talking about the 3 door but I guess that isn't obvious to the pedantic folk.

grogi

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

I was talking about the 3 door but I guess that isn't obvious to the pedantic folk.

No, it is not. Especially if you're wrong - about the looks too

Every car looks better if you pump it up with huge alloys and put a tone of CGI reflections on it...

JohnBoy26

grogi wrote: »

No, it is not. Especially if you're wrong - about the looks too

Every car looks better if you pump it up with huge alloys and put a tone of CGI reflections on it...

ShadowHearth

Is the pricing for fiesta st announced in Ireland?

1.5 3 cylinder engine is a bit weird. Looks like ford still chasing small turbo charged engine concept.
The others going for bigger displacement again. Ibiza cupra scrapped 1.4 tsi for 1.8 tsi. Polo gti did same thing and new one will have 2.0.

That 3 cylinder engine supposed to sound really good though?

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GavRedKing

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Is the pricing for fiesta st announced in Ireland?

1.5 3 cylinder engine is a bit weird. Looks like ford still chasing small turbo charged engine concept.
The others going for bigger displacement again. Ibiza cupra scrapped 1.4 tsi for 1.8 tsi. Polo gti did same thing and new one will have 2.0.

That 3 cylinder engine supposed to sound really good though?

If the Polo GTi is in and around 32k, I wouldnt be shocked to see the ST, once speced up, in and around 30k, Ford gave serious discounts on the ST2 when I got mine 2016 and between trade in and money off, it around 20k despite having a list price of closer to 27/28k (iirc).

I think the new one will be a bit more expensive, once you add a diff and springs and the likes, it will sky rocket but I'm not sure I'd justify buying the diff, while it would transform the car on a B road or track, I wouldnt ever really get use of either, other than maybe a handful of times a year, it will appeal to others though.

JohnBoy26

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Is the pricing for fiesta st announced in Ireland?

1.5 3 cylinder engine is a bit weird. Looks like ford still chasing small turbo charged engine concept.
The others going for bigger displacement again. Ibiza cupra scrapped 1.4 tsi for 1.8 tsi. Polo gti did same thing and new one will have 2.0.

That 3 cylinder engine supposed to sound really good though?

Some people like 3 cylinder units. Not that there is anything wrong with them but I wouldn't be a major fan I prefer 4 cylinder units. I think the 1.5 would be a nicer unit if it was a 4 cylinder but each to their own.