forced into retirement

Technoprisoner

gumgum1 wrote: »

mammy would like to keep working she lives on her own and it gives her a reason to get up in the morning I would think that if they stop giving her fifteen hour a week she Will go down another route thanks again for your reply

there is no reason why she couldnt keep her job indefinitely. if the solicitor advised 2 years id be asking him why

gumgum1

Technoprisoner wrote: »

there is no reason why she couldnt keep her job indefinitely. if the solicitor advised 2 years id be asking him why

I never taught of it like that Will pass it on to mammy thanks again

delthedriver

gumgum1 wrote: »

I never taught of it like that Will pass it on to mammy thanks again

Don't wish to rain on the parade. As advised before you need an Employment Law Specialist. There are lots of solicitors out there who have spent a lot of time conveyancing during the boom times, they may suggest having experience in Employment Litigation, however they are not specialists.
I have concerns about the advice she is getting so far.
To put it in medical terms, if one needs surgery on a broken foot, an orthopaedic surgeon is the relevant specialist, if one needs brain surgery,a brain surgeon is the relevant specialist.
I see no reason why your Mammys solicitor is willing to accept less than she may be entitled to , as his warning shot to her Employers.
I know you want the best for her, please consider getting the opinion of an Employment Law specialist even as a worthwhile second opinion.:)

delthedriver

any updates?

gumgum1

delthedriver wrote: »

any updates?

hi I have on news the company have not got back to her since she has handed in her letter

delthedriver

gumgum1 wrote: »

hi I have on news the company have not got back to her since she has handed in her letter

Your Mammy handed in the letter from her Solicitor?

Does her Solicitor realise what he is doing?

Sorry, but I don't think the Legal Dept. in her Employers HQ are going to shake in their boots with trepidation.

Have you considered a second opinion yet?:)

delthedriver

How is your Mammy getting on at work now?

How is she doing in herself, apprehensive, stressed, worried?

Has there been any feedback following her Solicitors letter?

At the end of the day, her health is her wealth. Perhaps she should liaise with her GP and make him aware of her situation at work?

The last thing she needs is to become anxious or depressed about the work situation.

It cannot be much fun facing into work at the moment, particularly when she enjoyed her job so much.

Best advice is to take one day at a time!

gumgum1

delthedriver wrote: »

How is your Mammy getting on at work now?

How is she doing in herself, apprehensive, stressed, worried?

Has there been any feedback following her Solicitors letter?

At the end of the day, her health is her wealth. Perhaps she should liaise with her GP and make him aware of her situation at work?

The last thing she needs is to become anxious or depressed about the work situation.she

It cannot be much fun facing into work at the moment, particularly when she enjoyed her job so much.

Best advice is to take one day at a time!

hi mammy is getting on grand the one plus thing is that her own manager is trying to fight for her to stay and if it was up to him he would keep her he is still giving her extra hours when ever there available. there has been nothingsaid to her regarding the letter and the reason she handed it to them rather than wait for it be posted is that head office had asked her for her decision by Tuesday and it was Wednesday before she got to speak to him so they taught it was best for her to bring it to work with her

wmpdd3

I would have a copy of the letter posted to the hr depot by registered post.....buy that's just me!

delthedriver

wmpdd3 wrote: »

I would have a copy of the letter posted to the hr depot by registered post.....buy that's just me!

Agree totally,
My guess is your Mammy is a very honourable lady with good old fashioned personal standards. Sadly, today in the Corporate world in Ireland they count for very little .
Too often Senior people in Organisations have risen to the level of their own incompetence, which makes them dangerous psychopaths as they struggle to defend their decisions for fear of showing weakness. They are extremely irrational and dangerous.
She must not trust anyone, she may find very soon that the Manager who is trying hard for her will very soon be singing from the Corporate hymn sheet. If he does not sing from the Corporate Hymn Sheet, he too could be looking for advice in relation to employment law.
Be very certain it will be your Mammy versus Goliath!
Please ensure she is getting the very best employment law advice available, she will need it. Do not underestimate the enemy.
So far I am not convinced she has picked a prize fighter in her corner!
Best wishes,

wmpdd3

I agree with above, there is no such thing as a nice middle manager in a sea of dogs, when push comes to shove, either that manager tows the company line or gets P45'ed and replaced with someone who will.

also she should be aware that the pension contributions situation has changed and the more she works the more her contributory pension could be so don't let her think, its OK I could go on JSB for a year and then the pension, leaving work early could be the difference between the lowest and highest pension rate for her totally retirement. Assuming she has not got a private / company retirement plan.

delthedriver

wmpdd3 wrote: »

I agree with above, there is no such thing as a nice middle manager in a sea of dogs, when push comes to shove, either that manager tows the company line or gets P45'ed and replaced with someone who will.

also she should be aware that the pension contributions situation has changed and the more she works the more her contributory pension could be so don't let her think, its OK I could go on JSB for a year and then the pension, leaving work early could be the difference between the lowest and highest pension rate for her totally retirement. Assuming she has not got a private / company retirement plan.

Good post.
I am withdrawing from this thread. Having given my very best advice for free, I fear the advice is falling on deaf ears. However I wish the OPs Mammy every success in her dealings with her employers. Hopefully things will work out, though it could be a very long road.

gumgum1

delthedriver wrote: »

Good post.
I am withdrawing from this thread. Having given my very best advice for free, I fear the advice is falling on deaf ears. However I wish the OPs Mammy every success in her dealings with her employers. Hopefully things will work out, though it could be a very long road.

I can assure you that I have passed on all your information but my mother insists on doing it her way she is happy just to wait on a reply and not follow it up thanks for all your help I always post when I have new information

wmpdd3

I know where you are coming from OP, I've intervened in a few things with my parents and it really you can only offer advice.

Also its all very fine for everyone bar the person who has to work in a place that they have had a disagreement with! Only your mum knows how this usually plays out in her place of work.

I brought this up in passing with a union rep and the answer I got was 'sure there's about 10 different kinds of contracts currently in the business, I dread to think what half of them say'.

Best of luck OP whatever happens, keep us posted.

gumgum1

hi just a quick update mammy has finally had a meeting with the hr manager for the company. They have come to a arrangement between them and mammy has agreed to it. she Will finish upearly next year. The company are organising some course for my mother to attend after this. Mammy Is happy enough with this agreement I think personally she should have at least got two more year but mammy didn't want to fight it any more she was afraid of the legal cost if she didn't win. thanks everyone for your reply they were all very helpful

irishgirl19

Well at least she is happy.good for her