Cadetships 2013

Ardennes1944

thats what i thought too, would make sense. ive to do a separate one for the Air Corps for sure though

LordHaughHaugh

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

thats what i thought too, would make sense. ive to do a separate one for the Air Corps for sure though

I'm guessing again that there's a central authority overlooking all cadetships, it is the military after all. It would seem odd if it was any other way.

SplitCartridge

Anyone any idea of the numbers breakdown for applicants this year, and anyone any idea how many people they're taking through to the next stage in the competition?

LordHaughHaugh

SplitCartridge wrote: »

Anyone any idea of the numbers breakdown for applicants this year, and anyone any idea how many people they're taking through to the next stage in the competition?

Have a look back through the thread, it was mentioned somewhere.

I also done the practice psychometric test this evening. Its not what I'd consider a psychometric test by any standards. It's more like a measure of how fast you can shuffle through papers at the office type of test.

SplitCartridge

LordHaughHaugh wrote: »

Have a look back through the thread, it was mentioned somewhere.

I also done the practice psychometric test this evening. Its not what I'd consider a psychometric test by any standards. It's more like a measure of how fast you can shuffle through papers at the office type of test.

Na just the numbers breakdown for places available is mentioned. Not the amount of people that have applied or what numbers will be brought through the various stages. Just curious anyway that info might not be out yet but it gets out eventually each year via the DF facebook page or something and its always interesting to compare.

choppy1988

I did the online tests last night.

Don't think I got on the best. I didn't get the verbal reasoning one finished.

Ah well, that's what not leaving enough time to prepare does.

TwentiethCent

Which one did you find harder of the two? got numerical finished but thought it was harder

soldier boy

Just a note from someone that has been to the final stage of the army and air corp competitions(unsuccessfully unfortunately) i wouldn't worry about not finishing your psychometric test on the day. i got neither of the sections finished on the day. and i was still in the top 5% on all occasions. and answer as honestly as you think. it all comes back around. especially in the air corp one. that one was a lot of fun. really liked baldonnel. best of luck to all applying. due to family things i won't be in the running this year.

Oh and before all the really stupid questions start about the interview. yes you wear a suit. it looks AWFUL to see a young fella walk in in jeans to an interview for such a position.

soldier boy

LordHaughHaugh wrote: »

I'm guessing that anyone who has applied for two sectors will only have to do one fitness test. Possibly the reason for the confusion.

You are wrong here. you must do each section for each force. ie army air corp navy.

Fitness testing will be done separately.

air corp aptitude test is completely different to layout of army. i dont know about the navy.

choppy1988

TwentiethCent wrote: »

Which one did you find harder of the two? got numerical finished but thought it was harder

I found the verbal reasoning harder. Which is weird because I'm usually not as good with numbers.

I think it was because the questions were longer and there was more of them in the verbal reasoning section. Think I had about 12 q's or so left on that. I got the numerical one finished though. Not sure if the answers were correct for most though.

Here's hoping it's enough.

CCCP1

Anyone know how long before you find out if you have been successful with the Psychometric tests?

I also found the verbal reasoning the harder of the two which i was surprised at.

TwentiethCent

Shouldnt be too long if the system can calculate our results straight away!? Anyone know how many get called to the next stage?

banbatoyota

CCCP1 wrote: »

Anyone know how long before you find out if you have been successful with the Psychometric tests?

I also found the verbal reasoning the harder of the two which i was surprised at.

Having done some online tests by the same company for grad programme positions during the year, we should easily know within the week.

Last year there were 21 Army places, and from the psychometric test, the top 300 went through to the assessment centre, from where 105 went through to the interview and then 35 to the medical after which the top 21 were offered Cadetships.

From an officer in the Army, the number of applications last year numbered around 2500, I can't imagine it being much smaller this year.

It'll be interesting to see if they retain the same structure to the competition after bringing in the online test this year, it's certainly far more efficient.

choppy1988

TwentiethCent wrote: »

Shouldnt be too long if the system can calculate our results straight away!? Anyone know how many get called to the next stage?

I have a friend who is an officer now, so it would have been this time 2 years ago he was going in. He said in the proper live test (so to speak), there was 300 and you had to be in the top 100 (he thinks, he couldn't remember for sure, said it could have been top 150).

Ardennes1944

i also found the verbal one harder and im not great with numbers, only got 2/3s of the verbal finished!

Podge Kelly

the online test is not working for me at this time?
when i enter the code i get this message:
''The login ID is correct; however, the process is not active at the moment.'' have i missed the deadline?!!

CCCP1

Deadline was midday today i think.

Podge Kelly

Missed the poxy deadline so, my UPC was down.. Gutted.

Diamondsandrose

As someone not sporty at all, do you think I could get fit enough within a week? ie. Do the run every day, possibly twice a day? Push ups and sit ups are fine just haven't done cardio in a while.

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Diamondsandrose

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

Not a hope in hell!!

you have to be practicing it for weeks before hand, its not that difficult to do, you just have to put time into it. Like anything else

Thanks. Anyone know what exactly is involved in the group assessment?

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Sugar Free

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

The way it worked when I last went for it anyways was,

You stay in the Curragh for a night, do your fitness test and they give you a presentation on what cadet life is like, after you become an officer etc.
You get to have a chat with the current cadet class and see them doing certain exercises.

Then the group assessment comes. This is more about judging how you effectively communicate with others. You are given a situation on a piece of paper. an area/location and a mission. You are then told to discuss it amongst yourselves, come up with a suitable plan and vote 1 person to pitch it back to the officer in charge.

During this process every person in the group is assigned an officer to judge your communication skills (mine was a captain) Its not really about demonstrating military knowledge, although it always helps, rather than how you speak to others, when you form a plan do you go back on it, if so why etc. (this was my downfall I believe) and they also judge time keeping and a big thing would be who nominates themselves to read out the plan in front of all the officers

It can be quite intimidating, A room full of High Ranking officers assessing your every move, but I bottled it when I went in. That was my mistake. Ive learned from it now. Wont make it again

Sound advice. I believe the exercise has changed from the old scenario. However, unless the format has changed dramatically (it sounds like it has not) then base your plan only off the information that's given.

There's always someone who dreams up some scenario with helicopters, airstrikes and all sorts of daft stuff that is never mentioned in the exercise.

Don't make assumptions, base your group decisions off the facts at hand. It's not really about how realistic your plan is but how well you work in a team, communicate and demonstrate leadership.

You can do this by listening to everyone carefully, not butting in or immediately shooting down ideas, trying to involve the quieter members of the group (e.g. 'Joe Bloggs, does this sound ok to you?') and being polite but clear when you disagree e.g. 'I appreciate your thoughts on this, how ever my concerns are x, y, z'.

SplitCartridge

The Army probably has the results already.

When we will have them is a different story. Just remember that the competition section has a lot of organizing to do for every stage. For example, next stage, booking the venue in Dublin for the confirmation tests. Stage after that, booking rations/the gym and much more for the over night job. They also have to coordinate with the cadetschool and organize it so that the candidates are there when the cadets are free for the evening to talk to the candidates etc. etc.

I could be wrong though. I'm not in the Army.. I'm just saying that candidates could be waiting a fair bit more than you'd think for info. These competitions usually span out over months and quite a lot of waiting around goes on for the candidates unfortunately.

Ardennes1944

Good luck to those doing the Air Corps fitness test in the morning. Hopefully we all pass

goldie fish

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Good luck to those doing the Air Corps fitness test in the morning. Hopefully we all pass

You can't all pass

soldier boy

goldie fish wrote: »

You can't all pass

they can ALL pass. but not all can progress. who is to say you don't get a few hundred super fit people.
the competition section has to then decide who goes through

Ardennes1944

Who here was at the fitness test today? 1 pass here anyway, think the majority did.
Had to be measured twice as they were sure I was too tall. Just scraped in!

tomato1988

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Who here was at the fitness test today? 1 pass here anyway, think the majority did.
Had to be measured twice as they were sure I was too tall. Just scraped in!

did the edge of the matt help as leverage for you feet when doing the situps?

colm911

I'm afraid I was one of the one's who failed. Next year will be my last year to apply. Gym for the next 12 month's

Ardennes1944

tomato1988 wrote: »

did the edge of the matt help as leverage for you feet when doing the situps?

Didn't actually need to in the end! I was doing the sit ups much harder than required, I was going back to rest position each time
Hard luck Colm!

colm911

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Didn't actually need to in the end! I was doing the sit ups much harder than required, I was going back to rest position each time
Hard luck Colm!

Thanks, hope to see you walking around the base next year. Best of luck with the rest of it and everybody else.

Jacques Mesrine

Yes I was at the test today and I'm glad to say I passed. However I wouldn't get my hopes up as they only recruit 4-6 candidates per year.

Local-womanizer

colm911 wrote: »

hope to see you walking around the base next year.

Walking?! :pac:

colm911

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Walking?! :pac:

From the pain

goldie fish

If you can walk, you either run or march. Otherwise you are being carried in a stretcher

Ardennes1944

As I said to the lads today, it's weird, and kind of sad, that only 1 of our lot from the morning and the evening will make it through, if even that.

Jacques Mesrine

What's sad about it?

Ardennes1944

That so, so many wont get in.
Got an email last night anyway, first interview next Tuesday, back up from Cork again!

choppy1988

Does anyone know when the army applicants will hear back from there online psychometric test results?

discus

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

That so, so many wont get in.

The only sad thing about that post is your lack of savage competitive spirit! You should be happy to crawl over the bodies of every other applicant!

Jacques Mesrine

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

That so, so many wont get in.
Got an email last night anyway, first interview next Tuesday, back up from Cork again!

Ya its sad alright but not as sad as that guy who failed the push up test.

Ardennes1944

He was from Cork too. If I'm going to get one of the places I don't need to be an asshole about it, I'll get in on my innate skills alone

Jacques Mesrine

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

He was from Cork too. If I'm going to get one of the places I don't need to be an asshole about it, I'll get in on my innate skills alone

Do you know something the rest of us don't know?

tomato1988

you have probably all seen this on the Irish Defence Forces Recruitment facebook page.

"FAQ: What is the next stage and when will I know if I was successful or not at the on-line Psychometric Stage?

We hope to inform all applicants whether or not they were successful or not at the Psychometric stage by 14 June 2013. The next stage of the competition will be the Verification Psychometric Tests in the Public Appointment Services Offices. The verification tests will take place between 24-28 June 2013."

optimus125

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

Who here was at the fitness test today? 1 pass here anyway, think the majority did.
Had to be measured twice as they were sure I was too tall. Just scraped in!

How tall are you actually? And was that for the Air Corps?

discus

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

He was from Cork too. If I'm going to get one of the places I don't need to be an asshole about it, I'll get in on my innate skills alone

That's not even admirable, man.

optimus125

What are peoples thoughts on the 12 years minimum service, after training, for the air corps?

colm911

optimus125 wrote: »

What are peoples thoughts on the 12 years minimum service, after training, for the air corps?[/quot

Personally I'd love it, good salary and doing something you love. What could be wrong with it?