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Burn Notice Season 7 *Spoilers*

  • 10-05-2013 9:50pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭


    The final season kicks off the 6th of June with Jack Coleman, Stephen Martines and Adrian Pasdar to guest star


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Really looking forward to it. A bit happysad about it ending, but I am glad they're going out on a high.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Really looking forward to it. A bit happysad about it ending, but I am glad they're going out on a high.

    Two Heroes Alum?.....ftw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1



    In the show's 100th episode flashes-back to Michael and Fiona' sfirst meeting
    in Ireland. The landmark hour will shed new light on Michael and Fiona's
    roller-coaster relationship.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Ugh. Can't stand her dodgy Irish accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,537 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    What an absolutely fantastic opener. Really great setup for the last season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,306 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Final season? Gawd damn it, I really like this show :'( Roll on August for Strike Back.

    On a side note, I wonder will they make any more movies, like the one with Sam Axe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    yay for BN!

    boo for final season but in fairness, 7 seasons was pushing the storylines a bit!

    Cracking opener. The opening scenes were pretty solid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭miralize


    Really enjoyed it too.

    I wonder how long it'll be until they meet up again. Liking the Heroes cameos, Adrian Pasdar is a bit of a weak actor though..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    This season is definitely set up to be intense and fantastic. Thought the blatant rip-off of Fight Club at the beginning was a bit :rolleyes: though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,537 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Jeffrey Donovan *cannot* do a good Irish accent. :)

    Good episode though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Mr E wrote: »
    Jeffrey Donovan *cannot* do a good Irish accent. :)

    Good episode though.

    Yeah it was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Both himself and Anwar are awful at the Irish accent.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Yeah it was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Both himself and Anwar are awful at the Irish accent.
    I was half expecting a "Top o' the mornin'". The dimlit Dublin pub and everyone in woollen jumpers and caps made it seem like a time warp from the '70s and not Dublin as it was.

    Borderline insulting flash back aside, I enjoyed this. I liked how it was Michael protecting everyone else this episode as his assignment and I thought his friend's reactions to him were spot on. Good villain turn too.

    Wondering where HRG (as he'll always be to me) will drag Michael next week.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Easily the most convincing 'Ireland' since Heroes season 2! :D

    Wow: I can forgive the accents - I've heard their ropey attempts before & the bad guy's fake French accent was equally atrocious - but the smokey timewarp pub and gingers in aran sweaters was just dreadful, borderline insulting as said already. You'd like to think in this day & age the stereotypes wouldn't be jumped on so quickly; pretty embarrassing all round. The rain was accurate at least.

    Good episode otherwise mind you; I can't help wonder if Fiona's new squeeze will turn out to be an agent. All that talk by Westen in episode 1 about a proper cover identity requiring total commitment feels like it could be prescient. And sure there's always at least one 'surprise' betrayal in this show...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,537 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Another cracker - Burn Notice is definitely going out on a high. That warehouse scene was fantastic.

    I have a horrible feeling that there might be a shark jump moment with Burke's boss, but we'll see....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Mr E wrote: »
    Another cracker - Burn Notice is definitely going out on a high. That warehouse scene was fantastic.

    I have a horrible feeling that there might be a shark jump moment with Burke's boss, but we'll see....
    Totally agree.

    Cracking good episode03.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Mr E wrote: »
    I have a horrible feeling that there might be a shark jump moment with Burke's boss, but we'll see....
    Same here. I'm thinking:
    Michael's father
    . Just a wild theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭Coutinho 10


    ixoy wrote: »
    Same here. I'm thinking:
    Michael's father
    . Just a wild theory.

    I would really hope the writers wouldn't do that! But I can see it happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    I've only seen S07E01 so haven't heard the accents yet, but I remember Anwar's accent from the pilot (they found a plot device to get rid of it pretty sharpish) and Donovan's from the ep where someone from Oirland came to Miami for help and Michael had to slip back into his cover story. To call them grim would be somewhat of an understatement. US TV and movies in general just don't do Irish accents well, as a rule.

    Cracking season opener, looking forward to the series going out on a high. I have a question though -
    I thought Michael had been vindicated at the end of season 6 - but now it looks like he was coerced into it - confused.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,537 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Another great episode with a very surprising exit. Who is Sonia?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,537 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I never really rated Jeffrey Donovan as a great actor (his range is from smug on one end of the scale to shouty shouty on the other end). He did a great job in the latest episode though. Good to see John Pyper-Ferguson too.

    I thought it was a great way to introduce
    Michael's father
    but probably makes it more likely that he will be the wizard behind the curtain at the end of the series.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,063 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Only just saw episode 7, thought it was great way to give glimpses to his past and his demons and an insight into why he is how he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭mad turnip


    Brilliant Ep 7! I'd say the season finale is going to be the best one yet. I've also heard some rumours of spinoff films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    All the fun has gone out of this show. I watched all 6 seasons in the space of a couple week and almost gave up on it at the start. Glad I kept with it tho. But I'm really upset that the comedic aspect of the show has been completely eviscerated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    pajopearl wrote: »
    All the fun has gone out of this show. I watched all 6 seasons in the space of a couple week and almost gave up on it at the start. Glad I kept with it tho. But I'm really upset that the comedic aspect of the show has been completely eviscerated.

    In fairness, it's the final series... They have chosen how they intend on ending it and they're going that way. I'd be surprised if there is no 'comedy' before the end. It was never a 'funny' show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    In fairness, it's the final series... They have chosen how they intend on ending it and they're going that way. I'd be surprised if there is no 'comedy' before the end. It was never a 'funny' show.

    No it was never a comedy or intended to be as such, but there were plenty of laughs which was one of the reasons I like the show so much. Just a bit disappointed that its not there any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭mad turnip


    pajopearl wrote: »
    All the fun has gone out of this show. I watched all 6 seasons in the space of a couple week and almost gave up on it at the start. Glad I kept with it tho. But I'm really upset that the comedic aspect of the show has been completely eviscerated.

    I think this is the shows way of finishing up the series and ending on a serious note.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,537 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    The way this season is going, I can see
    one of the core group getting killed, and Michael sacrificing himself as some sort of redemption
    .

    Dark (but compelling) episode last night.... They've cranked it up a notch this season.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I dunno about the comedy being abandoned, there's still plenty of snarky humour in the banter between the main cast; I guess considering all that they've been through, it would ring false if there wasn't some fallout from events. Particularly after the death of Nate, it would be hard to see how relationships wouldn't change - I'd have thought less of the show if everyone still had a spring in their step as if nothing had happened.

    It's a very strong final season though, and I'm enjoying it immensely. My initial guess about Carlos was that he'd be a spy all along, so I was happy to be proven wrong that nope, he really is just a normal guy who fell for Fi; the show was too fond of the double-cross, glad it wasn't wheeled out again.

    If I had one complaint, it's that the whole Fi-Michael dynamic is dead on its feet at this stage, and wish it was all wrapped up one way or the other. 7 seasons is a long time to stretch a will they/won't they plotline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    I can't see how they will at this stage. After all that Fiona has been through and the very strong objections that she has, as well as the fact that she seems to think that Michael is getting too deep into the cover. There's no way they can ever get it on again. If the producers manage to pull that off in the last 3 episodes and do it convincingly, I'll doff my hat to them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    ep11
    yay Simon!

    O.o

    Some episode.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Really ramping things up and I didn't expect the return of
    Simon
    . If I have one grumble: is it me or have they kept the purpose and beliefs of James' group deliberately vague? Sure, they've committed terrorist acts all right, but I don't recall any time the audience was informed exactly what their goals were. It hit me during the scene when
    Michael admitted to James he was a CIA spy and made a big speech about beliefs
    ; it was all very dramatic but felt hollow considering we're (apparently?) still in the dark about the groups broad motives.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Started series 6 yesterday and due to being under the weather I'm now on episode 2 of series 7. The opening episode was a thing of beauty. It set the show up for one hell of a final season and keeping Michael off the radar was a great move.

    As for the whole Irish accents being atrocious, well while they don't sound very authentic the sad thing is that most people find the Irish accent hard to understand and when casting Irish roles, actors including Irish burn ones are told to Oirish it up a little. Luck had one of the few genuine Irish accents and everyone, Irish viewers included complained about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    Luck had one of the few genuine Irish accents and everyone, Irish viewers included complained about it.

    Eh, sorry. Who???


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pajopearl wrote: »
    Eh, sorry. Who???

    Eh, that would be Rosie, the only main chararacter who spoke with an Irish accent. In the US they complained that it was hard to understand, though that may have been because of the manner in which Mann shoots and over here people complained that it wasn't authentic. I sat through many a script class where people flatout refused to believe that the actress was even Irish. Had to resort yo the Internet to convince them.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So unable to sleep and with the worst kind of summer cold I've found myself binging on series 6 and 7. Just midway through episode 6 of series 6 and the show has really kicked it up a notch. There's a real sense that no one is safe and I can see things getting quite dark before the curtains fall. I'm assuming that the people behind Sonya are people from Michael's past and as such I'm expecting Simon to pop up at some point. It's clear that the group is more than just a terrorist organisation and I'm thinking that they may in fact be the good guys, after all in 6 and a half series we haven't seen many CIA agents who weren't corrupt or working their own angles.

    Of all the shows on, from Game of Thrones to Breaking Bad to Mad Men yo any number of other critically lauded and commercially successful shows, few are as damn entertaining as Burn Notice. It's a shame that this series is to be the last as summers won't be as much fun. Hopefully the proposed spin off comes to fruition as thus time next year, I'd love to be enjoying the adventures of Chuck Finley and Virgil Tibbs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    Eh, that would be Rosie

    You sure you got the right show mate. I don't remember any character called Rosie, Luck or anything. I've even had an ould sconce at the full cast listing on IMDb for all 7 seasons and there's no listing of any Rosie character. Either my memory just escapes me or you def got the wrong show.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pajopearl wrote: »
    You sure you got the right show mate. I don't remember any character called Rosie, Luck or anything. I've even had an ould sconce at the full cast listing on IMDb for all 7 seasons and there's no listing of any Rosie character. Either my memory just escapes me or you def got the wrong show.

    I was refering to the show Luck, not an episode of Burn Notice.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    WOW, just after watching episode 7 and it is easily the best episode of the show to date and easily up there with the greatest episodes of television ever. Granted the rest of the gang stuff was a little by the numbers but Michael's scenes were superb. Really showed just how well written and adult the show can be. Personally I'd go so far as to say it's the best episode of television this year and shows up stuff like The Newsroom and Dexter for the fluff that they are. Really hoping that the rest of the season can keep up the standard and while I'm hoping that
    Micheal's Dad
    isn't the Wizard it's looking somewhat likely he is but that said, if it is true I have every faith in the writers to pull it off.

    I'm thinking that before the series is over we'll see Simon pop up again. I have a feeling that he's going to be integral in some way to the overall story. Really nice to see John Pyper-Ferguson pop up, he's one of those great talents that never seems to get enough work and was absolutely brilliant in an episode of Longmire last year. Hoping that we get a bit of a Brisco County Jr. reunion between him and Campbell before the show is over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,063 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Just watched episode 11 and I'm absolutely loving everything about this season. I realise that a lot of people are catching up so won't discuss the episode itself though look forward to it when people do get around to watching it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    No episode last week. Is it a double episode tomorrow night, does anybody know? Doesn't seem to be any conclusive answer anywhere I've looked.


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pajopearl wrote: »
    No episode last week. Is it a double episode tomorrow night, does anybody know? Doesn't seem to be any conclusive answer anywhere I've looked.

    Last weekend was Labor day weekend in the US and as such all the big shows take a week long break. There is one episode Thursday night and the final episode will air next week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Last weekend was Labor day weekend in the US and as such all the big shows take a week long break. There is one episode Thursday night and the final episode will air next week

    There is
    a big death
    in the finale


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    There is
    a big death
    in the finale

    I can never understand why people post comments such as the above. All it does is rob the show of any surprise as anyone watching is going to spend the entire show waiting for that moment to occur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    I can never understand why people post comments such as the above. All it does is rob the show of any surprise as anyone watching is going to spend the entire show waiting for that moment to occur.

    That's what spoiler tags are there for. If you uncover the spoiler, that was your decision and consequently, your fault for being the only part of the show that YOU are waiting for. Personally, I'm not sure I buy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,605 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I can never understand why people post comments such as the above. All it does is rob the show of any surprise as anyone watching is going to spend the entire show waiting for that moment to occur.

    Don't read the spoiler


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pajopearl wrote: »
    That's what spoiler tags are there for. If you uncover the spoiler, that was your decision and consequently, your fault for being the only part of the show that YOU are waiting for. Personally, I'm not sure I buy it.

    I understand why the spoiler tags are there and they serve a purpose but a lot of people will simply highlight it assuming it's news about the finale being a possible double parter or set up for something more.

    pixelburp wrote: »
    Really ramping things up and I didn't expect the return of
    Simon
    . If I have one grumble: is it me or have they kept the purpose and beliefs of James' group deliberately vague? Sure, they've committed terrorist acts all right, but I don't recall any time the audience was informed exactly what their goals were. It hit me during the scene when
    Michael admitted to James he was a CIA spy and made a big speech about beliefs
    ; it was all very dramatic but felt hollow considering we're (apparently?) still in the dark about the groups broad motives.

    I think that you have to look at that moment from Michael's mindset. He has given up his life for what he believes in and that is protecting his country, something that the CIA should exist simply to do. Over the course of the six series we've seen that the CIA are completely valueless and most of the operatives are working their own agenda. For the first time Michael is working for a group that cares more for it's members than it does forwarding the agenda of a single member. Burke gave his life for Michael and Sonya and all James has preached has been the importance of looking after one another. He could easily have escaped but he chose to walk into the middle of a trap in order to help his comrades. For someone like Michael that shows an integrity that the CIA lack, the fact that they are working with Simon kinda shows just how willing the CIA are to sell out their values. I think that the only part of Michael's change of heart I found hard to take is how it will affect his friends and family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    I don't think it's gonna play out like that at all. Maybe it's just the romanticist in me, but I think that Michael has other ideas than simply just walking away from friends and family. He will be a wanted man for the rest of his life and all the rest will be thrown back in Gitmo or wherever they were. Poor little Charlie will end up in foster care if it goes down the way the last episode left us to believe. It may very well be true that Michael has gone so deep into the cover that he is the cover but as other poster have speculated
    that Michael's father is the one pulling the strings
    , might be the kick that pulls him out of it and back on mission. I just don't think that Matt Nix and the producers have spent 7 yrs developing a character that is universally loved, only for them to turn viewers worlds upside down by making him a hated man in the last 5 seconds of the story.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pajopearl wrote: »
    I don't think it's gonna play out like that at all. Maybe it's just the romanticist in me, but I think that Michael has other ideas than simply just walking away from friends and family. He will be a wanted man for the rest of his life and all the rest will be thrown back in Gitmo or wherever they were. Poor little Charlie will end up in foster care if it goes down the way the last episode left us to believe. It may very well be true that Michael has gone so deep into the cover that he is the cover but as other poster have speculated
    that Michael's father is the one pulling the strings
    , might be the kick that pulls him out of it and back on mission. I just don't think that Matt Nix and the producers have spent 7 yrs developing a character that is universally loved, only for them to turn viewers worlds upside down by making him a hated man in the last 5 seconds of the story.

    The point is that it's clear that the finale is going to end with Michael saving the day and the
    death
    that's being talked about will involve Michael
    sacrificing
    himself for his friends.

    I don't see how Michael working for James would make him hated. After all if James's groups motives are shown to be something other than them being terrorists then it's quite possible that the CIA are the bad guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    The point is that it's clear that the finale is going to end with Michael saving the day and the
    death
    that's being talked about will involve Michael
    sacrificing
    himself for his friends.

    I don't see how Michael working for James would make him hated. After all if James's groups motives are shown to be something other than them being terrorists then it's quite possible that the CIA are the bad guys.

    All quite plausible, but the crux of the matter is that Michael has to bring James in or they all face going back to jail. If he does bring James in, then what motivation does he have for
    sacrificing himself
    ???

    EDIT: Unless it's to do with Fiona???


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pajopearl wrote: »
    All quite plausible, but the crux of the matter is that Michael has to bring James in or they all face going back to jail. If he does bring James in, then what motivation does he have for
    sacrificing himself
    ???

    EDIT: Unless it's to do with Fiona???

    There are a few ways the rest can stay out ofprison. After all they know of numerous off the book black op missions that the CIA undertook. There's also James who has unparalled resources and was willing to demolish a 10 million dollar mansion to cover his tracks so it's not too hard to believe that he can resettle Maddie and the kid. Sam, Fi and Jesse are more then capeable of looking after themselves.


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