Giro d'Italia Stage 8 – May 11th, Gabicce Mare - Saltara (ITT), **Unmasked Spoilers**

IM0

would be good if someone could post the time splits and finish times for all the propper GC contenders, especially the split at the bottom of the climb and the final times

buffalo

Well, isn't it exactly as everyone predicted - Nibali time trialling his way into the maglia rosa, while Wiggins saves himself for the mountains... wait, something's not right!

MPFG

Inquitus wrote: »

Nibbles 8/13
Wiggo 4/1
Cuddles 10/1
Hesjedal 10/1
Kiserlovski 10/1

Thats the betting after todays stage, almost 40/1 or more bar those 5.

I don't understand how Kiserlovski who is curently lying 25th and lost loads of time today is 10/1 , the same as Ryder aand Cadel...must be a mistake


Sammy is a better bet than him !!

TheBlaaMan

IM0 wrote: »

would be good if someone could post the time splits and finish times for all the propper GC contenders, especially the split at the bottom of the climb and the final times

Best I can find....

At the first checkpoint, in Pesaro:

1 Vincenzo Nibali AST 36:12
2 Alex Dowsett MOV +8"
3 Cadel Evans BMC +30"
4 Sergio Luis Henao SKY +35"
5 Michele Scarponi LAM +38"
6 Luke Durbridge OGE +45"
7 Robert Gesink BLA +49"
8 Tanel Kangert AST +50"
9 Rigoberto Uran SKY +50"
10 Ryder Hesjedal GRS +51"
13 Bradley Wiggins Sky +1:00
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At the second checkpoint:

Evans was 8th fastest through the second checkpoint, 1min 33sec slower than Dowsett.
Hesjedal was 16th to the second checkpoint, 2min 44sec behind Dowsett
Nibali was 6th, 1min 7sec slower than Dowsett.
Wiggins went thru the second C/P 59s down on Dowsett

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Stage eight final results

1 Alex Dowsett MOV 1h16:27
2 Bradley Wiggins SKY +10"
3 Tanel Kangert AST +14"
4 Vincenzo Nibali AST +21"
5 Stef Clement BLA +32"
6 Luke Durbridge OGE +35"
7 Cadel Evans BMC +39"
8 Manuele Boaro TST +45"
9 Sergio Luis Henao SKY +53"
10 Michele Scarponi +53"

IM0

Inquitus wrote: »

Nibbles 8/13
Wiggo 4/1
Cuddles 10/1
Hesjedal 10/1
Kiserlovski 10/1

Thats the betting after todays stage, almost 40/1 or more bar those 5.

what was wiggens odds b4 this?

even so if you can afford to lose, Id put it on wiggens. he has been concentrating on his climbing more than his TT'ing in build up to giro, look at how he went in the t o catalyuna climbs!

I think 4/1 are pretty good odds for a favourite, especially a sure bet like wiggens

sy

I thought Evans looked stronger in the last 4kms than Nibali. I wouldn't write him off yet and 10/1 looks good odds. Might wager a few euro :pac: Looks like this one might just go down to the wire. Giro has consistently been the most exciting Grand Tour over the past few years. Bring it on...

unichall

IM0 wrote: »

what was wiggens odds b4 this?

even so if you can afford to lose, Id put it on wiggens. he has been concentrating on his climbing more than his TT'ing in build up to giro, look at how he went in the t o catalyuna climbs!

I think 4/1 are pretty good odds for a favourite, especially a sure bet like wiggens

Wiggins was even money before the giro and 9/4 after yesterdays stage so his odds are still drifting

retalivity

ive had a nice windfall after backing wigan....to put it now on wiggins?

MPFG

retalivity wrote: »

ive had a nice windfall after backing wigan....to put it now on wiggins?

Maybe for the podium but not sure he will win

jimm

Anyone else hear Ryan Sherlock being mentioned?

They were discussing whether aero bidons were illegal in TT's, and I thought one of them read a text from RS confirming that indeed they were.

Or was I hearing things?:o

RobFowl

TBH very open looking still.
I'd not write off Wiggins but his head doesn't seem rigth for whatever reasons.
I'd prob see it overall as Nibali from cuddles with 3rd up for grabs.

denbatt

jimm wrote: »

Anyone else hear Ryan Sherlock being mentioned?

They were discussing whether aero bidons were illegal in TT's, and I thought one of them read a text from RS confirming that indeed they were.

Or was I hearing things?:o

Heard that too.

happytramp

RobFowl wrote: »

I'd not write off Wiggins but his head doesn't seem rigth for whatever reasons.

I actually agree with you but I have to ask the question.... Where do you see him making gains? It's hard to imagine him attacking at any time let alone the high mountains. He could wait for the Uphill TT but Nibali looks more than equal to the task thus far.

I honestly believe that if this was football then Brailsford would be sent packing. This is the second GT he's effectively sacrificed at the alter of Sir Brad. Henao would be in third place now had he been allowed to finish with the lead group yesterday and probably be in a very good place to contest Nibali in the mountains for the overall.

Inquitus

happytramp wrote: »

I actually agree with you but I have to ask the question.... Where do you see him making gains? It's hard to imagine him attacking at any time let alone the high mountains. He could wait for the Uphill TT but Nibali looks more than equal to the task thus far.

I honestly believe that if this was football then Brailsford would be sent packing. This is the second GT he's effectively sacrificed at the alter of Sir Brad. Henao would be in third place now had he been allowed to finish with the lead group yesterday and probably be in a very good place to contest Nibali in the mountains for the overall.

Wiggins lost a minute to Nibali on the technical first section and also had a bike change @ 20secs lost, and still beat him by 11 secs in the end. I think he's well able to take a minute out of Nibali on the uphill TT if he doesn't lose time in the mountains.

unichall

Inquitus wrote: »

Wiggins lost a minute to Nibali on the technical first section and also had a bike change @ 20secs lost, and still beat him by 11 secs in the end. I think he's well able to take a minute out of Nibali on the uphill TT if he doesn't lose time in the mountains.

Agreed, the final TT has an average of 4.5% so not something that will put wiggins off. He was by far the fastest up the final climb yesterday. He showed in Paris Nice last year he is well capable of riding a good uphill TT, the Col Deze is 4.7% over 10km

This has made for a very interesting Giro to be fair. Sky have 3 riders in the top 10 so everytime one of them attack Astana will have to shut it down, constantly wearing them out. I think Nibali knows he has his work cut out for him defending the pink jersey for the next 2 weeks. I for one think that this has made the giro far more interesting than the procession we all thought we were in for

omicron

unichall wrote: »

Agreed, the final TT has an average of 4.5% so not something that will put wiggins off. He was by far the fastest up the final climb yesterday. He showed in Paris Nice last year he is well capable of riding a good uphill TT, the Col Deze is 4.7% over 10km

This has made for a very interesting Giro to be fair. Sky have 3 riders in the top 10 so everytime one of them attack Astana will have to shut it down, constantly wearing them out. I think Nibali knows he has his work cut out for him defending the pink jersey for the next 2 weeks. I for one think that this has made the giro far more interesting than the procession we all thought we were in for

Evans went 5 seconds faster over the final climb, and Nibali, Pozzovivo, Scarponi and Kessiakoff were all within 5 seconds of Wiggins.

Morrisseeee

Wiggins commentary:

Still in the fight..

<snip>

..."We’re still here and we’ve got three guys in the top 10 now. We’ve got a few cards to play.”

The last line sounds defeat-ish

Beasty

happytramp wrote: »

I honestly believe that if this was football then Brailsford would be sent packing. This is the second GT he's effectively sacrificed at the alter of Sir Brad

Seriously? If that's the case then shouldn't everyone heading a Pro Tour team be "sent packing" after 2 successive failures to take a GT? Brailsford has delivered more in the past couple of years with Sky than pretty much any other team and will probably head into the Tour with the favourite in his team. With such a record to suggest his head should be called for is, frankly, absurd (but then again I do recall people calling for Ferguson's head back around 1990 - I knew pretty well at that time that it wasn't going to happen, regardless of Mark Robins' goal at the City Ground;))