Which car is better to save up for?

Supergurrier

Haha a 4.5 V8 = reasonable.

Overall i would say the 6 series would be a much nicer place to be and it's the one i would have.

Just get a custom exhaust system so it can roar.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4964736

Jesus now you are making me think about changing my car next year

Sobanek

Well it is more reasonable than the M5 anyways :P

I think I'm just going to get to that stage where I have €15k saved and then will wonder if I should get the E39 M5, E60 M5 or the E63 650i...

THall04

635ci or M5?????

Has to be the 635.
Only 21 years old and driving a 5 series,most people will assume your car is an auld 520d with fake M badges...

Sobanek

THall04 wrote: »

635ci or M5?????

Has to be the 635.
Only 21 years old and driving a 5 series,most people will assume your car is an auld 520d with fake M badges...

645*

Well, that is until I put my foot down


WOOO! 1000TH POST.

Supergurrier

Well good luck saving 15k anyway, best bet would be save 5k or so with your local credit union then get a 15k loan over 3-4 years.

Realistically and it might all make sense now saving that much will become almost impossible, took me guts of 6 months to save 3-4k and that wasn't easy

mitosis

Porsche is nice, the CLS very nice, the M5 looks like a reps car. CLS is my winner.

ninty9er

Out of curiosity; how do you plan to get about for a year without a car?

Sobanek

ninty9er wrote: »

Out of curiosity; how do you plan to get about for a year without a car?

The same way I did up until now - bus.

Matt Simis

Sobanek wrote: »

What I'm worried about with the 6 Series is that it will be too big for me. I'm a midget (5' 7") and the 6 Series is a massive car (although it does have PDC front and rear which is useful)

Youve been in one already havent you? Its not a big car on the inside. I had a guy sit in my 8 series as he was wondering if it offered more space up front (which it does, but less in the rear to the point having 5cm legroom) as he was planning on a 6 series till he sat in it and realised his head was touching the roof. He was over 6ft, but not exceptional.

THall04 wrote: »

635ci or M5?????
Has to be the 635.
Only 21 years old and driving a 5 series,most people will assume your car is an auld 520d with fake M badges...

The opinions of people who confuse 520d's with M5's matter as much as the opinions of people that confuse a 635i with a 645i.

Sobanek

Matt Simis wrote: »

Youve been in one already havent you? Its not a big car on the inside. I had a guy sit in my 8 series as he was wondering if it offered more space up front (which it does, but less in the rear to the point having 5cm legroom) as he was planning on a 6 series till he sat in it and realised his head was touching the roof. He was over 6ft, but not exceptional.


The opinions of people who confuse 520d's with M5's matter as much as the opinions of people that confuse a 635i with a 645i.

There is a difference between using the car everyday and just having a short 10 minute drive It felt larger than the Volvo I currently use, but not as big as the E38.

Mycroft H

A supercharged Jag.

ottostreet

I believe him, and admire your large, voluminous balls sobanek.

I wasted thousands of euro on **** cars over the years. When I think about it, it makes me cringe, as I was in a similar situation to you, but I wasted it!

Voodoomelon

Sobanek your posts sound exactly like me 5 or 6 years ago.
I earned about the same as you do back then, maybe a bit less and I got a serious enough loan for my E38 when the banks were throwing money around. I was even stupid enough to get a "little bit extra" to pay the first years tax. Getting a loan to pay for motor tax, absolute madness when I look back!

Anyways I have to say I regretted the first few years having to pay it back. Subsequent years, I suddenly had to start finding €2500 insurance and €1200-1400 motor tax. Plus tyre bills, parts bills, eye watering fuel bills. And I was doing all the labour myself.

And whilst I got a loan and you're planning on saving, it's still big money when, as a poster mentioned above, other "life costs" suddenly start popping up. To me, there was an underlying uneasy feeling of having a really nice car when young, yet having nothing to fall back on if all goes tits up and spending such a colossal mount of hard earned income on a single item in your life.

I'd go with the 996 or the 645.

Sobanek

The question is - did you regret it?

kitnan

M5 everytime!

Sobanek

ALRIGHT GUYS

I have made a manly decision, and I'm choosing....
..
...
....
.....

THE 645CI.

WHY:
- More economical than M5
- Easier to live with everyday
- More modern than E39
- Coupe instead of a Saloon
- My dad likes it more
- Still plenty of horsepower
- Cheaper insurance

The M5 still will be on my "to get before I die" list, but for now, I think the 645Ci will be a very mad first car either way.

I will post here again as soon as I get the job, and will give you progress on my savings.

Thank you very much Boardsies. Definitely wouldn't have made this decision without ya all!

MetzgerMeister

Sobanek wrote: »

first car

:eek:

Sobanek

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

:eek:

YES

Jimdagym

Sobanek wrote: »

The question is - did you regret it?

He says he regretted it in the second paragraph.

Sobanek

Jimdagym wrote: »

He says he regretted it in the second paragraph.

I was asking about the car, not paying off the loan :rolleyes:

sebastianlieken

I don't really care about your finances to be honest; not my concern! so GREAT thread!

I'd have the 645i (GORGEOUS car, good taste man!) is that the actual one in the picture? I was looking at these myself - A black one. As for the interiors, Red/ White/ or Black leather - you really cannot go wrong, they're all stunning!

In joint second place i'd but the 996 and the CLS.

sebastianlieken

I don't really care about your finances to be honest; not my concern! so GREAT thread!

I'd have the 645i (GORGEOUS car, good taste man!) is that the actual one in the picture? I was looking at these myself - A black one. As for the interiors, Red/ White/ or Black leather - you really cannot go wrong, they're all stunning!

In joint second place i'd but the 996 and the CLS.


*** double post?... ****

advertsfox

this thread

Sobanek

I would be aiming for a black one alright

Max Power1

Sobanek wrote: »

YES

Oh lord
If it is your first car.. go with an auld fiesta or something. Otherwise your beloved investment of a 645 will be dinged up within weeks!

Sobanek

Max Power1 wrote: »

Oh lord
If it is your first car.. go with an auld fiesta or something. Otherwise your beloved investment of a 645 will be dinged up within weeks!

Hahaha. Fiesta.

It won't.

Not owning a car ≠ Don't know how to drive a car

Tea 1000

Sobanek wrote: »

ALRIGHT GUYS

I have made a manly decision, and I'm choosing....
..
...
....
.....

THE 645CI.

WHY:
- More economical than M5
- Easier to live with everyday
- More modern than E39
- Coupe instead of a Saloon
- My dad likes it more
- Still plenty of horsepower
- Cheaper insurance

The M5 still will be on my "to get before I die" list, but for now, I think the 645Ci will be a very mad first car either way.

I will post here again as soon as I get the job, and will give you progress on my savings.

Thank you very much Boardsies. Definitely wouldn't have made this decision without ya all!

Wiser choice I think, the engine is unstressed, so I'd be willing to bet the cost of repairing an M5 that it will not break nearly as often as an M5! Most M5's have had hard lives, and given that they're fairly highly strung in the first place, 15 years of hardship means busted wallets for current owners! Many 645i's have had a comparatively easy life!

Max Power1 wrote: »

Oh lord
If it is your first car.. go with an auld fiesta or something. Otherwise your beloved investment of a 645 will be dinged up within weeks!

What kind of driver were you??? The first time I touched off something accidentally with my car I probably had my license 3 or 4 years!

Matt Simis

Sobanek wrote: »

Hahaha. Fiesta.
It won't.

Not owning a car ≠ Don't know how to drive a car

Agreed, I think my "first car" (as in 100% independently mine) was the Audi S4 (over 400bhp) but I had been driving for years beforehand.

Mycroft H

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

:eek:

A 645i shaped hole in a tree coming near you!

Alanstrainor

Even though I'm not the biggest fan of the 645's looks. That's the one I'd probably have out of that list anyway! I would guess the M5 would make you cry with the bills it'll throw up.

Max Power1

Tea 1000 wrote: »

What kind of driver were you??? The first time I touched off something accidentally with my car I probably had my license 3 or 4 years!

I was a new one. Overly confident and overly ambitious.

I felt it was better to learn the limits of my spatial awareness in a car costing 500 than in one costing 10k

Johnny Utah

This thread has to be a windup...

21 years old, first car, minimum wage job, going back to college, just doesn't add up...

What about that other young lad on here who said he had a 535d

Max Power1

Johnny Utah wrote: »

This thread has to be a windup...

21 years old, first car, minimum wage job, going back to college, just doesn't add up...

What about that other young lad on here who said he had a 535d

Me?
Im picking her up tomorrow actually. Photos will follow

Johnny Utah

Max Power1 wrote: »

Me?
Im picking her up tomorrow actually. Photos will follow

No, not you; there was some other Walter Mitty on this forum a few years ago with the username 535d or something similar and he used to ask loads of questions about the car, until he was eventually found out (with hilarious results!)

MetzgerMeister

Johnny Utah wrote: »

No, not you; there was some other Walter Mitty on this forum a few years ago with the username 535d or something similar and he used to ask loads of questions about the car, until he was eventually found out (with hilarious results!)

That was bmw535d and the car in question was a Mitsubishi Evo.

We had a similar situation with some ape and a crossbred E92/E46 supercharged M3 in the US.

choons

Would it not be cheaper to run a banger while working to get a years no claims? Your insurance will be cheaper when you get the car and you'd save on your 200/month transport.

I'm in college and its hard enough to keep a Punto on the road. I don't think you'll pull it off but I would love to be proven wrong!

For Forks Sake

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

We had a similar situation with some ape and a crossbred E92/E46 supercharged M3 in the US.

That was the thread that just kept giving.

sebastianlieken

@ OP, when are you looking to buy the car?

Nonoperational

To be honest man, it's a cool idea and I hate to sound like a prick, but buying a 645 as your first car, at 21, on €25k a year with the possibility of going back to college...it's silly and naive.

If everything goes perfectly then *maybe* you could do it for a year... but expensive cars can give expensive problems. Anything that crops up will break your heart. What if you tip it and need it repaired? Clutch goes? 4x high performance tyres will cost you half your months wages. That's just mental expenditure on one thing.

There are other things in life besides cars. What if you want to go away for a weekend, take a girl out, buy some clothes, go to the doctor etc... you'll be putting yourself under ridiculous pressure...

I hope it works for you and more power to you if you prove me wrong...
(ps, get the M5!)

halkar

@OP, did you budget for speed tickets?
I am sure you will probably lose your driving license in one year with any of these. Otherwise what is the point of having one of these monsters?

Maybe its time to wake up and smell the coffee.
Get a micra

MetzgerMeister

Nonoperational wrote: »

There are other things in life besides cars.

Wrong

Nonoperational wrote: »

What if you want to go away for a weekend

A 645i is a proven method of transport

Nonoperational wrote: »

take a girl out

What better way to woo a female than in a 645i?

Nonoperational wrote: »

buy some clothes

Drive to the clothes shop in a 645i




:pac:






You're right though!

Matt Simis

There are definitely two types of people on this forum, I just dont get why the kind that dont like buy fast cars are here at all.

Tea 1000

Max Power1 wrote: »

I was a new one. Overly confident and overly ambitious.

I felt it was better to learn the limits of my spatial awareness in a car costing 500 than in one costing 10k

I started driving a tractor at around 9, the car probably 12 or 13 around the house and reverse into the garage, which was a 90 degree corner up to the doors, and the only car in the household was my dad's who always bought brand new as he was on the road a lot for his job, so my ego was overshadowed by the fear of being torn a new ass, so spatial awareness was improved immensely!
If I started in a €500 crap heap, I wouldn't have cared what I scratched. If I started in a 645i, you can be sure I would!

dgt

Tea 1000 wrote: »

I started driving a tractor at around 9, the car probably 12 or 13 around the house and reverse into the garage, which was a 90 degree corner up to the doors, and the only car in the household was my dad's who always bought brand new as he was on the road a lot for his job, so my ego was overshadowed by the fear of being torn a new ass, so spatial awareness was improved immensely!
If I started in a €500 crap heap, I wouldn't have cared what I scratched. If I started in a 645i, you can be sure I would!

Sounds very similar to how I started driving, right down to a reversing accident.... :eek: Except I started my insurance on a €400 crap heap I had to assemble myself :pac:

OP I can't express how much I admire your attitude and balls to have a 645 as your first car, I take my hat off to you, why can't there be more people like you out there

Best of luck and you'll have to come to a meet in it someday! :cool:

Tea 1000

dgt wrote: »

Sounds very similar to how I started driving, right down to a reversing accident.... :eek:

I think there's a graph that could be plotted showing the proportional relationship between spatial awareness while reversing and the validity of new arse being torn.

Foxhole Norman

Tea 1000 wrote: »

I started driving a tractor at around 9, the car probably 12 or 13 around the house and reverse into the garage, which was a 90 degree corner up to the doors, and the only car in the household was my dad's who always bought brand new as he was on the road a lot for his job, so my ego was overshadowed by the fear of being torn a new ass, so spatial awareness was improved immensely!
If I started in a €500 crap heap, I wouldn't have cared what I scratched. If I started in a 645i, you can be sure I would!

Same story with me, when I started 2 years ago I was learning on my moms new Clio and up until recently was driving a new Fluence. The potential to get torn a new ass definitely made my spatial awareness much better, bar of course that time when I crashed.

dgt

Tea 1000 wrote: »

I think there's a graph that could be plotted showing the proportional relationship between spatial awareness while reversing and the validity of new arse being torn.

I had to source out another car to use it's quarter panel/bumper/tail-light and buy the paint.... At the age of 15

I hope the OP did their homework and knows where to get spares, what common faults are and who can look after the car mechanically (better if it's diy )

MetzgerMeister

Tea 1000 wrote: »

I think there's a graph that could be plotted showing the proportional relationship between spatial awareness while reversing and the validity of new arse being torn.

Pfffftt!!! Reversing is piss easy, especially with reversing sensors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrKlbi5347Q

:pac:

halkar

ShaunieVW

I do admire your drive, however, I am of similar age to you, 23, I started working at 18 on a 22k salary. To an 18 year old this was masses amount of money, I had and still have minimum outgoings, rent 200, then motoring costs. I had like you a plan in place, In a year I would have 7k to spend while still having a life. I don't drink or smoke, this would be easy I said. WRONG! Money goes out of my pockets without me knowing it, I ended up getting a CU loan and buying a 5k car. 11 cars down the road I have realised that the true cost of a car is not the initial buying, it's maintenance, Fuel, tyres and little bits, have you priced m5 parts? Parts will break, suspension will need changing, I own an e39 530d, very reliable but still I have put a MAF sensor €250, rear arms €400, Map sensor €135, oil €80, service parts €150, that's doing the work myself, 255/40/17 decent rear tyres €130 each, all in the last 6 months, I spend 300 in fuel every month, then there is tax etc, this is on a 530d, M5 parts are eye wateringly expensive,

All I'm saying is even if you do manage to save up and buy it on that kind of income the first time a part goes you are up **** creek without a paddle, parts will need replacing. Have you seen the price of one disc for a m5? Or would you use non genuine muck?

I do not wish to discourage you but if you pull it off and manage to maintain an m5 to its deserve standards you are a better man than me and deserve a place on that superscimmers show.