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Taming the marathon beast...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    Tough decision Runchick, but probably wise in the circumstances. Like everyone, I am just stunned by the news coming from Dublin, it's certainly sobering and puts things in perspective. I know we don't know what happened with that poor man, but it's a lesson that we should all be listening to our bodies and cutting ourselves some slack if we're not 100%

    There'll be other races, just make sure you get back to full fitness and health. You'll be better for it in the long run.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Willie42


    +1 to all of the above - ran today - shouldn't have after the way I felt all week and nothing was gained - you made the right choice - I will the next time - whatever happened that young man today it's just so sad RIP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭RunningKing


    Good decision. More races to follow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 992 ✭✭✭dazza21ie


    Very sensible runchick get yourself sorted you have bigger fish to fry. As a wise old old man once said "keep the main thing the main thing"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    dazza21ie wrote: »
    Very sensible runchick get yourself sorted you have bigger fish to fry. As a wise old old man once said "keep the main thing the main thing"

    He may be old but not sure about wise! ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭RedRunner


    Sorry you are still unwell RC. Get well soon. Remember you have to pace me to sub 4 next month;):D


  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭DOCO12


    Tough decision Runchick but the right one. Mind yourself and make sure you take all the rest you need. Get well soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    RedRunner wrote: »
    Sorry you are still unwell RC. Get well soon. Remember you have to pace me to sub 4 next month;):D

    Haha RR feels like mission impossible right now but I have my optimistic hat on for the next 5 weeks and fully intend to see you at the start line ;)
    Willie42 wrote: »
    +1 to all of the above - ran today - shouldn't have after the way I felt all week and nothing was gained - you made the right choice - I will the next time - whatever happened that young man today it's just so sad RIP

    Aw Willie42 I'm sorry to hear yesterday didn't go to plan :( Put it behind you, we have much bigger fish to fry in 5 weeks :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    Strange Sunday - at home sick, no long run and OH left early to run a half marathon! Incidentally he finished comfortably in 1.50...how I wish I'd been on form for a smackdown :p Ah well I'm now eagerly awaiting taking him on sooner rather than later (before he trains for it and becomes a speedy so-and-so ;)). It'll be almost as exciting as a Blocky/Gavlor showdown ;)

    Some may think I should give up on this running lark but I really feel like I'm only getting started. Many lessons learned over the past year or so - injury prevention/ listening to thy body/ eating well/ but probably the biggest for me is getting enough SLEEP when marathon training - I need 8 or 9 hours a night, when this doesn't happen I get sick. So I'm learning as I go, making all the mistakes, but as long as I learn from them sure things can only get better. And the whole asthma thing just makes it interesting...bucket list used to be 'marathon by 40', now its 'ultra by 40'....18 months or so to get there...bring it on :D

    the drugs are making me all philosophical today, sorry for the ramble :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    Runchick wrote: »
    .bucket list used to be 'marathon by 40', now its 'ultra by 40'....18 months or so to get there...bring it on :D

    Don't let belcarra et al see that one! I'm looking forward to an ultra where runchick, ncmc and career_move are all competing. :D

    That Gavlor/Blockic showdown will never happen I think, We are happy to both claim we are faster than the other without going out to prove it! :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    blockic wrote: »
    Don't let belcarra et al see that one! I'm looking forward to an ultra where runchick, ncmc and career_move are all competing. :D

    That Gavlor/Blockic showdown will never happen I think, We are happy to both claim we are faster than the other without going out to prove it! :pac:

    Nah I think you and Gavlor have to make happen but has to be the beer mile, now that would be worth seeing :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Deedee2012


    Came across here to see your ultra plans, I didn't realise you'd missed a half as you're sick. Definitely the right thing not to run, pity I wasn't so wise :-)
    Get well soon and I'll follow your plans with interest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    Runchick wrote: »
    Nah I think you and Gavlor have to make happen but has to be the beer mile, now that would be worth seeing :P

    I have no doubt that Gavlor would destroy me in a beer mile and I'm happy to admit it! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭New runner


    Don't u just hate it when these men that don't even train are able to go out n run a 1.50 half!!! 😜 jealous.com . Fair play to him , that's a great run!
    Runchick what inhaler(s) u on? My 3 kids are asthmatic since birth. Just thinking seeing as u down with a cold, ? Chest inf . Maybe a diagnosis of asthma may not nessesary b correct ! Maybe it will all settle down after u get well again hopefully!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    blockic wrote: »
    I have no doubt that Gavlor would destroy me in a beer mile and I'm happy to admit it! :D

    Beer mile it is!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    Gavlor wrote: »
    Beer mile it is!!

    Have to wait a few years til Blockic has the proper ID!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    Runchick wrote: »
    Some may think I should give up on this running lark but I really feel like I'm only getting started. Many lessons learned over the past year or so - injury prevention/ listening to thy body/ eating well/ but probably the biggest for me is getting enough SLEEP when marathon training - I need 8 or 9 hours a night, when this doesn't happen I get sick. So I'm learning as I go, making all the mistakes, but as long as I learn from them sure things can only get better. And the whole asthma thing just makes it interesting...bucket list used to be 'marathon by 40', now its 'ultra by 40'....18 months or so to get there...bring it on :D

    I know more sleep is something I should be focusing on yet my internal clock refuses to let me sleep before 1am but has no problem allowing me to get three extra snoozes after 7am!

    Joking aside Donadea in mid February is the perfect entry point for an Ultra. It's a short one (only(!) 31 miles) and the 5km loops mean that there's always someone near you so it never gets too lonely on the course.
    Normal marathon training will suffice for Donadea with maybe an extra LSR or a single back2back LSR weekend required.

    If the timing means it comes too soon then Connemara Ultra is very doable in a 'get around the course' kind of way.
    Perhaps for Connemara you could in effect train for a marathon in early March and then just tack on three weekends of b2b LSRs in mid March.

    Some people find that going that bit slower for a good while longer is much easier than racing a marathon or shorter. Beginning to think I might be firmly in that category!:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    belcarra wrote: »
    I know more sleep is something I should be focusing on yet my internal clock refuses to let me sleep before 1am but has no problem allowing me to get three extra snoozes after 7am!

    Joking aside Donadea in mid February is the perfect entry point for an Ultra. It's a short one (only(!) 31 miles) and the 5km loops mean that there's always someone near you so it never gets too lonely on the course.
    Normal marathon training will suffice for Donadea with maybe an extra LSR or a single back2back LSR weekend required.

    If the timing means it comes too soon then Connemara Ultra is very doable in a 'get around the course' kind of way.
    Perhaps for Connemara you could in effect train for a marathon in early March and then just tack on three weekends of b2b LSRs in mid March.

    Some people find that going that bit slower for a good while longer is much easier than racing a marathon or shorter. Beginning to think I might be firmly in that category!:rolleyes:


    Dam you Belcarra putting silly ideas in my head...there I was looking up Connemara - it just happens to be on on my birthday, thought it was a sign...until today.....

    got a ballot place for London- yippeeee :D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    Runchick wrote: »
    Dam you Belcarra putting silly ideas in my head...there I was looking up Connemara - it just happens to be on on my birthday, thought it was a sign...until today.....

    got a ballot place for London- yippeeee :D:D:D:D

    Perfect! Do a great run in London and with a few weeks rest you'll then have 8 weeks to train for Portumna 50km or 100km!!
    Thought you got away with it there, didn't ya?!:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    Congrats runchick, what an amazing race to look forward to!

    Totally bummed I seem to have missed out on the ballot :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    ncmc wrote: »
    Congrats runchick, what an amazing race to look forward to!

    Totally bummed I seem to have missed out on the ballot :(

    Did you get a rejection letter - no news is good news you know ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    belcarra wrote: »
    Perfect! Do a great run in London and with a few weeks rest you'll then have 8 weeks to train for Portumna 50km or 100km!!
    Thought you got away with it there, didn't ya?!:D

    Crazy, crazy, crazy :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    Runchick wrote: »
    Did you get a rejection letter - no news is good news you know ;)

    I think in my haste to enter I made a bit of a balls of the address I was using, so wouldn't be surprised if I never got a letter!

    Ah well, just will have to make sure I get a gfa time in the next 9 months and get guaranteed entry for 2015!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    ncmc wrote: »
    Ah well, just will have to make sure I get a gfa time in the next 9 months and get guaranteed entry for 2015!

    Thought you'd the marathon box ticked no? :P


    Congrats runchick! What a race to look forward to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Runchick wrote: »
    Dam you Belcarra putting silly ideas in my head...there I was looking up Connemara - it just happens to be on on my birthday, thought it was a sign...until today.....

    got a ballot place for London- yippeeee :D:D:D:D

    Good stuff!! Bring the biker along and we can use him as our food stop ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Willie42


    Well done on London Runchick :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭career_move


    Great news RC. Congrats :D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    Gavlor wrote: »
    Good stuff!! Bring the biker along and we can use him as our food stop ;)

    He's just booked the flights, I think he's as excited as me!...little does he know that on 13th April he will become 'the waterboy' :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Runchick wrote: »
    He's just booked the flights, I think he's as excited as me!...little does he know that on 13th April he will become 'the waterboy' :p

    Fortunately I live on merseyside and just need to get the train from lime st ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭New runner


    Congrats Runchick , whoohoo!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭RedRunner


    Runchick wrote: »
    D

    got a ballot place for London- yippeeee :D:D:D:D

    Hey that's great news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 992 ✭✭✭dazza21ie


    Great news run chick something to look forward to during winter months ahead


  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭DOCO12


    Congrats on London It will be some experience, delighted for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    On the mend so got out for a few slow miles:

    Sat 28th

    10.13m @ 10.15

    Felt great to be out again but kept the effort very, very easy. Legs feel so good, they've been missing the road :)

    Sun

    4.48 @10.36

    Slow plod with the dog, very enjoyable

    Can't imagine running a marathon at the minute but hopeful that I'll be firing on all cylinders come race day ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    Runchick wrote: »
    On the mend so got out for a few slow miles:

    Sat 28th

    10.13m @ 10.15

    Felt great to be out again but kept the effort very, very easy. Legs feel so good, they've been missing the road :)

    Sun

    4.48 @10.36

    Slow plod with the dog, very enjoyable

    Can't imagine running a marathon at the minute but hopeful that I'll be firing on all cylinders come race day ;)

    Nice one, it's torture not being able to get out! Going crazy myself! How many days you miss altogether?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭RedRunner


    Runchick wrote: »
    On the mend so got out for a few slow miles:

    Sat 28th

    10.13m @ 10.15

    Felt great to be out again but kept the effort very, very easy. Legs feel so good, they've been missing the road :)

    Sun

    4.48 @10.36

    Slow plod with the dog, very enjoyable

    Can't imagine running a marathon at the minute but hopeful that I'll be firing on all cylinders come race day ;)

    That's how I felt last week, but a lot can change in a week. You'll be back;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    blockic wrote: »
    Nice one, it's torture not being able to get out! Going crazy myself! How many days you miss altogether?

    10 long frustrating days :rolleyes: It is torture but I know from the last time that it doesn't take long to get back in to things...you'll be grand :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    Mon - rest

    Tues - 6m easy

    6m @ 9.42

    Still feeling the virus on this run, but really enjoyed it - wanted to go further but was time restricted so stopped at 6.

    Wed - rest

    Erring on the side of caution until feeling 100% so only planning easy running every other day.

    Thur - 8m easy

    8.17m @ 9.10

    Headed out in the rain not sure how far to go, planned either 5 or 8m depending on how I was feeling. First mile was groggy but after a few miles felt good and legs were begging me to up the pace so I thought I'd try a few MP miles going purely by feel. Tucked the watch out of sight under the rain coat and ran to feel, trying to judge MP by my breathing. Did 4 miles with no clue of pace but expecting 9.15ish. Was quite surprised when I got home, MP splits 9.07, 8.45, 8.25, 8.31...glad I did this as it proved to me that the fitness is still there even though I've been sick.

    Finished antibiotics today but another visit to the doc as I'm still not feeling as good as I'd expected to by now. Infection is mostly cleared but still lingering so I've started yet another course of antibiotics :( Not exactly ideal with less than 4 weeks til DCM.

    So for the first time ever I'm facing up to the fact that I might not make the start line. The plan is to do an easy longish run on Saturday, a few runs next week and the big test will be a 20+ mile run next weekend. If I can do that without adverse effects and really feel ok after then I'll do the marathon, but if I can't run that LSR next weekend without a struggle then its game over. No point in risking longer term problems.

    I'm giving myself every chance to make it happen though. I'm taking an immunity-boosting, yeasty, icky tonic from the health food shop and eating every super-food I can get my hands on - its amazing how many ways you can eat dark green leafy stuff! I'm making myself go to bed early and generally being as healthy as possible. If I do make it to the start I may have to reconsider the time goal too but will be happy with a strong finish even if it takes a bit longer than planned...not ideal but hardly the end of the world :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,491 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Fingers crossed for you, runchick. Really hope you make it! I'm confident you will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Runchick wrote: »
    So for the first time ever I'm facing up to the fact that I might not make the start line.

    I can empathise with you on that. Sucks, doesn't it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 47 Witchburner


    You'll make the start - don't think otherwise, I ran it in 2008 with only a half under my belt.
    Stay positive girly you'll manage just fine.
    Good luck with it all, hope it plays out well for ya.
    Oh and by the way - the fact you managed to get to where you are with 3 kids it commendable in its own right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    I can empathise with you on that. Sucks, doesn't it?

    Absolutely sucks:( how are you getting on? Closer or further away from the start line?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Runchick wrote: »
    Absolutely sucks:( how are you getting on? Closer or further away from the start line?

    Probably further away if truth be told. Contemplating making my Physio a bit richer with one last throw of the dice but chances are slim at this stage. In work 11 hours every day too so it's hard to get time with the family and still exercise too.

    Actually woke up this morning having dreamt that the Physio and her dad came to see me and he explained that my troubles were coming from my runners, which he then proceeded to take apart like Lego! That's what I guess for using the Marathon Stick before bed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    Probably further away if truth be told. Contemplating making my Physio a bit richer with one last throw of the dice but chances are slim at this stage. In work 11 hours every day too so it's hard to get time with the family and still exercise too.

    Actually woke up this morning having dreamt that the Physio and her dad came to see me and he explained that my troubles were coming from my runners, which he then proceeded to take apart like Lego! That's what I guess for using the Marathon Stick before bed.

    F€ck! There must be something in your workplace, DH has a bit of ligament tissue damage, no running for past 2 weeks. He has 2 * 20 milers banked so I reckon he'll run it at a nice easy pace. Shame to see so many injuries & illness after so much work from everyone


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Runchick


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    Probably further away if truth be told. Contemplating making my Physio a bit richer with one last throw of the dice but chances are slim at this stage. In work 11 hours every day too so it's hard to get time with the family and still exercise too.

    Actually woke up this morning having dreamt that the Physio and her dad came to see me and he explained that my troubles were coming from my runners, which he then proceeded to take apart like Lego! That's what I guess for using the Marathon Stick before bed.

    :( mind you sounds like a bit I taper madness going on there with those dreams! Prob worth getting the physio's opinion, if he gives you the ok might be worth a shot :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    2000km run, 2 marathons entered, probably no marathons completed. How grim is that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    2000km run, 2 marathons entered, probably no marathons completed. How grim is that?

    Hey, the fat lady has not come out to sing yet, keep positive.

    But look, if you end up missing DCM its a tough break but with 2000km under your belt it is a great platform to have for next year where you will be looking for even faster marathon times...

    It all won't be in vein.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    Sorry to hear about your sickness Runchick a real beast to get rid of.

    However you have PLENTY time to make DCM yet. Target may be adjusted yes if you miss a good few more runs but there is no fear of making both the start line and finish line for you tbh if you play is wise!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭RedRunner


    Be well RC. I'm keeping everything crossed for you!:)
    I'm sure you can make it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭Willie42


    Ditto to all of the above :)


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