Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

Chris_5339762

Just bear in mind that any security changes will likely have the new CT scanners, which have a lot higher throughput than the standard x-ray scanners.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121564931#Comment_121564931

Definitely, not likely. The entire existing setup will have CT scanners before the new one starts.

Blut2

The CT upgrade is due to be completed at some point this year isn't it? They make a noticeable difference to security wait times, they're a great improvement.

dublin12367

Talk on the FB spotting group of a rumour of the a380 in on the 28th of test and trails? Any truth in this?

Hotblack Desiato

@Irish Steve I'm certainly not one to stick up for Maggie, but the 3 day week, power cuts etc. Ted Heath was in charge (well, Scargill was in charge really...) Not generally one to stick up for the Greens either but I don't think the events of 50 years ago in another country are all that relevant to our energy policy going forward (but we do need that damn LNG terminal for the medium term)

sparrowcar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121566367#Comment_121566367

In DUB?

dublin12367

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121578466#Comment_121578466

So the Facebook groups states, yes.

bk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121523653#Comment_121523653

Connecting all the heavy rail lines to the airport would cost close to 10 Billion!!

And that is just connecting the existing lines, not making the lines high speed or electrifying them, that all would come over 50 billion!

While I’d like to see the airport connected like this some day, unless the EU is willing to pay for it, then frankly we have much more important projects to work on first, Spending close to 10 billion linking heavy rail to the airport when Dublin doesn’t even have a single Metro line is pretty mad and would be very much putting the cart before the horse.

We need to focus on building out a Metro network in Dublin first, along with Dart+ etc. Heavy rail links should be a much lower priority.

In the meantime, Metrolink will nicely connect 3 of the 4 rail lines to the airport with an easy transfer and they could easily connect the fourth line with a relatively cheap extension to Metrolink.

People massively underestimate just how costly it is to build rail lines and electrification and high speed rail (see HS2 in the UK). All the above is covered in the recent All Island Strategic Rail Review for those interested. It has also been discussed in more detail over on the Infrastructure forum.

dublin12367

Does anyone have any idea on when we are likely to see a decision from ABP in relation to the night flights, quota etc?

EI321

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121591786#Comment_121591786

I'd imagine it will take a very long time as the application totals around 7,000 pages. Why they didn't submit it in several separate applications isn't totally clear but I'd imagine they were told that infrastructure will need to be expanded prior to the passenger cap increasing to 40m so both will be considered concurrently.

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121592574#Comment_121592574

The night noise quota is a different thing, approved by FCC and going through a third party appeal.

dublin12367

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121592574#Comment_121592574

As above pointed out. Completely separate applications. I can’t really see the 40 million infrastructure application taking a long time though as I’d imagine there will be some pressure to get that approved asap as it’s already due to turn away 2million passengers this year because of the cap.

EI321

I was referring only to the infrastructure and passenger cap, not the night cap, I should have pointed that out.

dublin12367

https://www.irishtimes.com/transport/2024/01/12/potential-freeze-on-private-business-jets-at-dublin-airport-would-greatly-hinder-foreign-direct-investment-in-ireland/

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121607853#Comment_121607853

The I.T. reporter on that piece seems to have a track record which is very critical of aviation, especially at Dublin. Of course it plays to the Green extremists for whom private jsts are a great target. Virtue signalling and gesture politics all the way.

ro23

Anyone know why the new runway isn’t in operation at the moment?

IngazZagni

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610760#Comment_121610760

Low visibility and low cloud base. It's not LVP conditions but they still close the North runway in this weather over a year after it opened. So ridiculously slow to approve it for low visibility operations.

Another inefficiency I notice from 28R is how the ATR's have to follow the prescribed published procedure and can't turn early like on the southern runway. This greatly increases the amount of time a standard jet has to wait to depart behind it.

Idbatterim

Given that the numbers cap is an absolute farce, they should just increase it to 100,000,000 or so, to be done with the BS... or can the requirement, not be totally scrapped?

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121613787#Comment_121613787

Neither would have any chance of getting planning.

Going beyond the current application wouldn't be countenanced until Metrolink is open either.

dublin12367

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121614491#Comment_121614491

I’m sure there will be a few more applications to extend it before the metro is actually open. We will probably be talking about terminal 4 and the metro still won’t have been built!

DublinKev

28L due to close from 11pm to 5am for 4 nights for maintenance works beginning tonight.

DublinKev

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121617583#Comment_121617583

Deferred now due to adverse weather.

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121619995#Comment_121619995

Great!. Thousands of North Dubliners can sleep soundly under their warm duvets to-night! 😃

HTCOne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121620050#Comment_121620050

More like hundreds. There's more people affected by the southern runway 😁.

bk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121616254#Comment_121616254

Metrolink’s Railway Order is currently proceeding through ABP and various contracts for its construction and operation are out for tender. It is at a very advanced state of planning and not far off beginning construction.

It will be open far before a Terminal 3 gets considered.

The issues with the airports passenger cap are giving major support and emphasis to the Metrolink project. It has become key to Dublin Airports and Dublin Cities future.

As an aside, airport developments really need something like the Railway Order process that rails enjoy. Basically the planning skips the local authorities, goes straight to ABP, and largely gets rubber stamped by ABP, because the railway order was actually devised by those with expertise in railways.

Idbatterim

that cap is the ultimate bullshit! if the only way you could get to dublin airport, was by public transport, walking or cycling, they would still want a cap...

sdanseo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121621132#Comment_121621132

A passenger cap on an airport is a nonsense policy. I've said before than I view FCC as one of the more progressive LAs but on the airport there's been a definite shift lately towards the anti noise brigade. Populist nonsense and nothing more.

The same level of abject mental deficiency can be applied to those that blame the DAA for a lack of a rail link. The DAA don't make or partake national land transport policy and nor should they.

MICKEYG

I landed from the US this morning and we were given one of the T1 gates.

There were a lot of very confused connecting passengers as there is mixed signage as to where to go for flight connections once you make it back to the T2 area.

Staff on the ground were helpful but replacing or blocking the signs that point to the old transfer location would be a simple fix.

I assume that is closed for good? If not and it is only open on an intermittent basis then some digitals variable signage would be better than the current fixed signage.

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121642193#Comment_121642193

Climate change.

More passengers in the air damages our kids future quicker.

Think of your grandchildren before wanting a cheap weekend in Eastern Europe.

IngazZagni

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121642773#Comment_121642773

It has nothing to do with climate change. It's based on road infrastructure. So your argument is invalid. However a yearly limit doesn't address daily spikes. In summer you often have over twice as many people flying everyday than in winter. If we had summer traffic levels everyday we'd have over 40 million going through the airport.