Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

Chris_5339762 · 24-02-2017 6:26pm

Those self service gates are open from about 9 - 5 every day and thats it. There used to be a sign about it but it disappeared.

They're in the wrong location anyway, you have to join the same queue to access them and due to their location its often quicker just to wait to see a person anyway.

Avada · 24-02-2017 6:53pm

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Those self service gates are open from about 9 - 5 every day and thats it. There used to be a sign about it but it disappeared.

They're in the wrong location anyway, you have to join the same queue to access them and due to their location its often quicker just to wait to see a person anyway.

They're not only 9-5, but you have to remember that you need an immigration officer to monitor them so when there is a shortage of staff it's not always possible to have them open.

If you look in the work and jobs forum, INIS are currently training more immigration officers, with more to come again. Hopefully this should help.

The Veteran · 24-02-2017 7:07pm

GNIB hasn't been in Terminal 1 for nearly two years. There are building works in the area that the Ryanair passengers come in to and the Hall is smaller as a result.

31,000 passengers going through T1 today; approximately 28/29,000 going through the area people are commenting on.

10% of that figure will land in approx 45 minutes - that's down to the Airlines; no one else; plus there are only 10 desks.

Avada · 24-02-2017 8:19pm

The Veteran wrote: »

GNIB hasn't been in Terminal 1 for nearly two years. There are building works in the area that the Ryanair passengers come in to and the Hall is smaller as a result.

31,000 passengers going through T1 today; approximately 28/29,000 going through the area people are commenting on.

10% of that figure will land in approx 45 minutes - that's down to the Airlines; no one else; plus there are only 10 desks.

This too. T1 is crazy busy, plus imo the Immigration Hall is not of ideal design for the pax numbers going through it at present.

Just to add, despite what I said above, its not just about the number of staff, volume is as much an issue.

Idbatterim · 03-03-2017 12:16pm

Just had a though earlier. Would it make sense to have lower airport taxes outside of peak hours , to try and increase business at Dublin airport? There is so much capacity not being used during mid morning to late afternoon

Jamie2k9 · 03-03-2017 12:21pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

Just had a though earlier. Would it make sense to have lower airport taxes outside of peak hours , to try and increase business at Dublin airport? There is so much capacity not being used during mid morning to late afternoon

Won't work and it's February and in summer it's quiet busy throughout the day.

JCX BXC · 04-03-2017 11:09am

Is there much growth expected in the European side of things for the summer? Ryanair have no growth and Aer Lingus have cancelled some of their growth.

Stockholm with Norwegian,
Munich with Transavia (which is already going to end permanently from October),
Aer Lingus to Split.

Is that really it?

Jamie2k9 · 04-03-2017 2:18pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Is there much growth expected in the European side of things for the summer? Ryanair have no growth and Aer Lingus have cancelled some of their growth.

Stockholm with Norwegian,
Munich with Transavia (which is already going to end permanently from October),
Aer Lingus to Split.

Is that really it?

LH, LX, DY, Wow, SK, A3 and EI (still up).

lateconnection · 04-03-2017 2:44pm

10/28 is being repaired/overlaid at the moment, but once the new runway opens in 2020 are there plans to lengthen the existing runway from 2,637 metres?

I feel that an extension to 3,300-3,500 metres would be a good investment.

Cloudio9 · 04-03-2017 3:21pm

lateconnection wrote: »

I feel that an extension to 3,300-3,500 metres would be a good investment.

So you've run the numbers ?

Kevski · 04-03-2017 3:29pm

Cloudio9 wrote: »

So you've run the numbers ?

Is it necessary for posters to conduct a cost benefit analysis before posting now?

Gaoth Laidir · 04-03-2017 4:17pm

Dublin is the only European capital without a 10,000-ft runway. It's ridiculous.

jamo2oo9 · 04-03-2017 4:41pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Dublin is the only European capital without a 10,000-ft runway. It's ridiculous.

And Berlin Tegal

JCX BXC · 04-03-2017 4:53pm

And Lithuania, Latvia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Albania, Macedonia, Kosovo and Slovakia.

Also worth nothing the large Istanbul Atäturk airport doesn't have a runway over 10,000ft.

IngazZagni · 04-03-2017 5:03pm

The new runway length of 3100 metres will be more than adequate. Extending the existing runway would be a colossal waste of money I feel.

lateconnection · 04-03-2017 5:46pm

There is plenty of room to extend 10/28 at both ends.

If they extended it to 3300-3500 metres, it would be the longest in Ireland and could handle virtually any aircraft.

What happened to the plan for the new runway to be 3,660 metres?

Gaoth Laidir · 04-03-2017 9:49pm

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

And Berlin Tegal

It's 9918 ft. Near enough!

JCX BXC wrote: »

And Lithuania, Latvia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Albania, Macedonia, Kosovo and Slovakia.

Also worth nothing the large Istanbul Atäturk airport doesn't have a runway over 10,000ft.

I'm afraid you're not totally correct there:

Latvia (Riga): 10,499 feet.

Montenegro (Podgorica): 9998 ft (i.e. 10,000)

Both Istanbul international airports are about 9850 feet, near enough to 10,000 and way longer than Dublin.

Lithuania has half the population of Ireland and is not exactly an international hub, however its runway is the same length as our 28. Similarly Bosnia, Albania and Kosovo. All much smaller populations and not exactly renowned as aviating nations, unlike Ireland. Slovakia has a population almost the same as Ireland but at 9545 its runway is almost 1000 ft longer than 28.

Even Iceland has two runways longer than 10,000 ft, for a total country population only one third of Dublin's.

With the huge ethnic variation and global aviation industry based in Ireland it is sinful that we are not in a position to offer facilities for ultra longhaul flights if required. Foward thinking would suggest that this will be required in the future.

JCX BXC · 04-03-2017 9:55pm

My mistake with Riga.

You can't just say "Dublin is the only capital in Europe with no runway over 10,000ft" when it's clearly not.

I accept your point on Dublin needing a longer runway, but your tabloid style headline which was incorrect is what I was getting at. It just creates misinformation and incorrect rumours, such as "Dublin's runway is too small for the A380".

Anyway, this will soon be solved with the new RWY, which I'm quite impressed is sticking fully with the timeline. We do make a mockery of how badly timed and planned some projects are in Ireland, but the DAA seem quite efficient in this regard. Especially when comparing it to the mess that is Berlin Brandenburg.

Gaoth Laidir · 04-03-2017 10:16pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

My mistake with Riga.

And Podgorica.

You can't just say "Dublin is the only capital in Europe with no runway over 10,000ft" when it's clearly not.

I accept your point on Dublin needing a longer runway, but your tabloid style headline which was incorrect is what I was getting at. It just creates misinformation and incorrect rumours, such as "Dublin's runway is too small for the A380".

Anyway, this will soon be solved with the new RWY, which I'm quite impressed is sticking fully with the timeline. We do make a mockery of how badly timed and planned some projects are in Ireland, but the DAA seem quite efficient in this regard. Especially when comparing it to the mess that is Berlin Brandenburg.

But our runway IS too short for an A380 (fully-laden). The countries you have mentioned are all eastern European nations, most of which have only become independent in the last few decades (and I include Berlin in this respect). All countries west of these (OK, without including the likes of Andorra and Lichtenstein) have 10,000+ ft runways.

AndyBoBandy · 05-03-2017 11:23am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

The countries you have mentioned are all eastern European nations, most of which have only become independent in the last few decades (and I include Berlin in this respect). All countries west of these (OK, without including the likes of Andorra and Lichtenstein) have 10,000+ ft runways.

Lithuania and Latvia are not Eastern European nations, they are Baltic states.

AndyBoBandy · 05-03-2017 11:29am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

With the huge ethnic variation and global aviation industry based in Ireland it is sinful that we are not in a position to offer facilities for ultra longhaul flights if required. Foward thinking would suggest that this will be required in the future.

You can reach the west coast of the U.S. as well as the Middle East from Dublin.

What ultra long haul is Dublin sinfully missing?

Gaoth Laidir · 05-03-2017 11:29am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Lithuania and Latvia are not Eastern European nations, they are Baltic states.

I mean part of the former Soviet Union. :rolleyes:

Noxegon · 05-03-2017 11:35am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

What ultra long haul is Dublin sinfully missing?

Singapore is the one that jumps to mind.

Gaoth Laidir · 05-03-2017 11:36am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

You can reach the west coast of the U.S. as well as the Middle East from Dublin.

What ultra long haul is Dublin sinfully missing?

China? Far East, with connections to AUS/NZ. South America?

AndyBoBandy · 05-03-2017 11:39am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

China? Far East, with connections to AUS/NZ. South America?

If the interest from airlines was there, surely the DAA would have investigated the feasibility of a runway extension,

Their not just going to extend, at a cost of millions 'just in case' an airline might want to set up a new route!

AndyBoBandy · 05-03-2017 11:40am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

I mean part of the former Soviet Union. :rolleyes:

So not Eastern Europe as you stated.

Gaoth Laidir · 05-03-2017 11:41am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

If the interest from airlines was there, surely the DAA would have investigated the feasibility of a runway extension,

Their not just going to extend, at a cost of millions 'just in case' an airline might want to set up a new route!

Well airlines will definitely not want to if they don't.

AndyBoBandy · 05-03-2017 11:46am

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

We'll airlines will definitely not want to if they don't.

That's why interested parties have discussion on such matters.

Airlines aren't just going to wait for an extension, saying feck all about it until DAA actually commit.

Gaoth Laidir · 05-03-2017 11:52am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

So not Eastern Europe as you stated.

What is your deal? So pedantic.They are former eastern bloc countries, just the same as the others mentioned in the posts. That was the context.

AndyBoBandy · 05-03-2017 12:00pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

What is your deal? So pedantic.They are former eastern bloc countries, just the same as the others mentioned in the posts. That was the context.

Eastern bloc & Eastern Europe are 2 different things.

I guess having lived out there, I can understand why they don't like being called Eastern European, the same way Irish people don't like being called English, or Canadians don't like being called American etc...

Anyway, enough of that, this is a Dublin airport thread.

Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

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