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The 100 [CW - US] [** Spoilers **]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭rockbeast


    ^ Yes, the stuff on the Ark is as compelling as the stuff on the ground and adds to what's happening on the ground too, as the stuff on the ground affects the Ark. It's all very clever!

    Showing that they've no problem offing people makes you kind of wary about getting too invested in any of the characters too :)

    You have to think Abbey will bite it eventually, no? She's escaped being floated twice now, she can't have that many lives.

    Am sure her feet will get to touch Earth's sweet soil...and then she'll die soon after!:D

    ...probably saving Clarke...


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    rockbeast wrote: »
    Am sure her feet will get to touch Earth's sweet soil...and then she'll die soon after!:D

    ...probably saving Clarke...

    Just as they're about to be reunited Charlotte pops up and shivs her! She's been living in the woods with Murphy all this time and they're back for revenge! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,548 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I think this show is turning into a dark little gem. Definitely pushing the envelope for The CW.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭rockbeast


    Mr E wrote: »
    I think this show is turning into a dark little gem. Definitely pushing the envelope for The CW.

    It's surprised me.

    I like being surprised.

    Feck 3D, s'all about surpris3d, yo! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,364 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I'm going to say The CW isn't shocking me as such. I remember the first season of Vampire Diaries, they were killing off characters left, right and centre. They just have a now undeserved reputation of being for teens/teen girls. Really they're actually a go to place for pretty good genre tv.

    True they still have the shows like Reign but they also gave us Nikita, gave it a good chance and a definite final season instead of just cancelling.

    So in short, I like The CW. :)

    Their shows that I watch include The 100, Supernatural, Arrow and Whose Line is it Anyway


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    The Vampire Diaries was excellent TV from about 6 episodes into the first season until half way through the second one. It went downhill from there, story telling wise, in my opinion, but yeah, The CW is capable of making good shows and giving shows a fair chance at working.

    I don't understand though why networks insist on making so many new shows every year. If you've got say 10 shows on air now, 2 of which are flops, why pick up 4 new shows in pilot season meaning you have to then chop 2 more to make room?

    What I've read online about CW shows this year it sounds like The Carrie Diaries and Starcrossed are done for, The Tomorrow People is also looking like it's a goner. So that's 3 off the production schedule. So pick up 3 new shows to replace them. Why put 5 or 6 shows into production, spend a fortune on them, maybe one of them might be half decent but you've already chopped 2 more shows that were building a following and now you have to try and promote brand new shows and get a following going for them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭rockbeast


    The Vampire Diaries was excellent TV from about 6 episodes into the first season until half way through the second one. It went downhill from there, story telling wise, in my opinion, but yeah, The CW is capable of making good shows and giving shows a fair chance at working.

    I don't understand though why networks insist on making so many new shows every year. If you've got say 10 shows on air now, 2 of which are flops, why pick up 4 new shows in pilot season meaning you have to then chop 2 more to make room?

    What I've read online about CW shows this year it sounds like The Carrie Diaries and Starcrossed are done for, The Tomorrow People is also looking like it's a goner. So that's 3 off the production schedule. So pick up 3 new shows to replace them. Why put 5 or 6 shows into production, spend a fortune on them, maybe one of them might be half decent but you've already chopped 2 more shows that were building a following and now you have to try and promote brand new shows and get a following going for them?

    Throwing sh!te at a wall.

    Oldest sales/numbers game in the world:)

    But, yeah, they, the nètworks, would be better served doubling down the investment and halving the shows...


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I'm just concerned this one will get cancelled before I've lost interest and wondered off by myself :)

    I think it's the only show on air, at this present moment, that I actually think about for a while after an episode, or am intrigued enough to be counting down to the next one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭rockbeast


    ^^^ that said, the CGI and props are pretty damn good in this show...


    Anyone know the budget per episode?

    Pretty impressed that not once have the FX caused me to step out of the show,

    The dialogue, well, that's another story:)


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    rockbeast wrote: »
    ^^^ that said, the CGI and props are pretty damn good in this show...


    Anyone know the budget per episode?

    Pretty impressed that not once have the FX caused me to step out of the show,

    The dialogue, well, that's another story:)

    It's surprising how little CGI they use considering it's set in the future, and half in space. Maybe that's why they can get it right when they do use it. I fully appreciate that they built proper sets for the Ark stuff. Does anyone watch Once Upon A Time? I hate watch it occasionally and the CGI is just ridiculous. They have maybe 3 real sets and then everything else is really amateur looking CGI, it's disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,978 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    For me it had a real B.S.G feel on the ARK when they had to make the decision what to do with the 300 and I was really surprised that a Network show followed through with it.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Interesting episode.

    The mother seemed like a bit of a wagon in the flashbacks. Poor kids, what a weird upbringing!

    Kind of hoping Finn dies. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,978 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    They are not afraid of showing something graphic on this for a network show.

    Stabbings to the neck spears in the chests mass suicide and a baby popping out last night.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    The baby plopping out was gross :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,364 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    92.

    Wonder why Bellamy didn't get floated as well for keeping Octavia a secret. And good to see that being stuck in one room your entire life can still make you look really fit. :)

    I was thinking the grounder was using her as bait of sorts. But he seems to be not with the other grounders


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    ^ I assume either the guard his mother was sleeping with pulled strings or maybe the guy who came to him with the deal pulled them knowing he'd be able to hold it over hi m in the future?

    Thought it was interesting how Bellamy's need to protect Octavia doesn't necessarily come from a good place. It's almost like he's been conditioned to protect her. Is he capable of existing as his own person?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Well now... that was interesting.

    Clarke actively encouraging torture, Raven going full on psycho with the electric cables!! I loved it :)

    Still wish they'd let Finn die, especially after all the things they did to try and save him. Oh well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,978 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Great to see Kate Vernon (Ellen Tigh of BSG).

    Another fun episode and I am loving the whole morals of humanity being challenged.

    One mintue we are good the next lets torture ok lets be good again.

    To be honest the only person I am rooting for now is the grounder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭mafaa


    the series is getting more interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,548 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Yeah very good episode. I knew the grounder would talk. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭mafaa


    the grounder very tough, if every grounders like him then the teenagers got problems
    'The 100's' mysterious Grounder speaks: Ricky Whittle breaks down episode 7, 'Contents Under Pressure' by zap2it

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    The 100: 2-Part Finale To Woo Season 2 With ‘Crazy’ Cliffhanger - seriable


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I don't watch a lot of American TV anymore, or much TV at all really. I thought I should preface my next comment with that, just so you know where I'm coming from.... I think The 100 is the best new show, on any network, for some time.

    Bare with me..... :)

    I know it has a lot of problems, plot holes, questionable dialogue, handy coincidences, LOVE TRIANGLES!! etc. etc. but... I find the positives outweigh the negatives and as well as having some really interesting central themes it's thoroughly entertaining. I find myself actually thinking about it for a while after I watch it, it's the first show in a long time I've liked enough to keep up with US pace and actually look forward to each week.

    I really hope it gets a second series, signs look good at the moment, so fingers crossed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,364 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So they can't let their prisoner go since he'll come back with backup? It's not like he already knew where they were and how many there were.

    Thought Clarke was gonna forget about Octavia when giving Finn the antidote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Good news on its renewal its a real guilty pleasure. i presume they'll keep coming up with reasons why no one from the ark can come down to Earth- if they did come down it would change the whole selling point of the show.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Good news on its renewal its a real guilty pleasure. i presume they'll keep coming up with reasons why no one from the ark can come down to Earth- if they did come down it would change the whole selling point of the show.

    I don't know. If only some of them could come down it would be interesting to see how the kids adjust to not being in charge anymore. Would they just let the adults take over again? Would the adults listen to anything the kids had to tell them? Would the structure of their society automatically revert back to how it was on the Ark?

    Anyway.... enjoyed this weeks ep. The whole camp being high was a bit dumb but it was worth the dumb for Bellamy's guilt hallucination. Pretty trippy, he'll regret crying to a girl in the morning :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭rockbeast


    I don't know. If only some of them could come down it would be interesting to see how the kids adjust to not being in charge anymore. Would they just let the adults take over again? Would the adults listen to anything the kids had to tell them? Would the structure of their society automatically revert back to how it was on the Ark?

    Anyway.... enjoyed this weeks ep. The whole camp being high was a bit dumb but it was worth the dumb for Bellamy's guilt hallucination. Pretty trippy, he'll regret crying to a girl in the morning :eek:

    Yeah, love to see "desmond from lost" on the ground - sorry can't think of his name right now!

    BUT as soon as there's more than 100 on the ground are they not "jumping the shark":eek::)

    I suppose it's the same for all high-concept shows that are eager to get a renewal but still...

    Never more than 100 from orbit on the ground at once - them's the rules!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭GottaGetGatt


    rockbeast wrote: »
    Yeah, love to see "desmond from lost" on the ground - sorry can't think of his name right now!

    BUT as soon as there's more than 100 on the ground are they not "jumping the shark":eek::)

    I suppose it's the same for all high-concept shows that are eager to get a renewal but still...

    Never more than 100 from orbit on the ground at once - them's the rules!;)

    Sh!t yeah,thought i recognised him from something.He was good in lost


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    rockbeast wrote: »
    Yeah, love to see "desmond from lost" on the ground - sorry can't think of his name right now!

    BUT as soon as there's more than 100 on the ground are they not "jumping the shark":eek::)

    I suppose it's the same for all high-concept shows that are eager to get a renewal but still...

    Never more than 100 from orbit on the ground at once - them's the rules!;)

    Nope, apparently "The 100" refers to the name of the project to send the prisoners to Earth, not the number of kids, although that was also 100, but in terms of the name of the show it refers to the name of the project. There were technically 101 on the first drop ship anyway :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭rockbeast


    Nope, apparently "The 100" refers to the name of the project to send the prisoners to Earth, not the number of kids, although that was also 100, but in terms of the name of the show it refers to the name of the project. There were technically 101 on the first drop ship anyway :)

    Sounds like a renewal retcon to me!

    Like Prison Break meant a "break from prison" in Se02+:D

    PS did 1 or 2 not die on re-entry so technically...ya, ya...! :-)


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I saw the show runner guy mention the 100 project thing a few times since it started. I suppose it could just be a clever attempt to get around a set premise or.... it could be true, the show is about the project to find out if they can go back to earth because the Ark is failing and all the repercussions that this has on everyone.... :)

    2 died when they landed, I think, for being idiots and taking off their seat belts. So only 99 landed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭rockbeast


    I saw the show runner guy mention the 100 project thing a few times since it started. I suppose it could just be a clever attempt to get around a set premise or.... it could be true, the show is about the project to find out if they can go back to earth because the Ark is failing and all the repercussions that this has on everyone.... :)

    2 died when they landed, I think, for being idiots and taking off their seat belts. So only 99 landed?

    And then hot chick landed=100!:)

    But some died so...about 85 left I'd say...

    "Hey, orbiters, there's room on this planet for another 15 but no more!" ;)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    "I don't care if we only have 3 ships left and thousands will die if we don't fill them!!! 15 people are going on this one! Don't you know the name of the show you're on?!?! Just for that, you don't get to go!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,364 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Now we're at 91.

    Obviously their heads were messed up before the drugs kicked in when they put the target over the door they were using to get in and out.

    I guess the big question is How are the Grounders still pretty normal looking and able to speak perfect English?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    CastorTroy;90335283"]Now we're at 91.

    Obviously their heads were messed up before the drugs kicked in when they put the target over the door they were using to get in and out.

    I guess the big question is How are the Grounders still pretty normal looking and able to speak perfect English?

    According to the shows wiki it's set 97 years after the bombs fell which isn't enough time for a new language to have evolved(new slang maybe) , as for why they all look normal and not like that deformed skull they found, in show terms Lincoln and his ilk could be the descendents of people who made it to Fallout style Vaults and the as yet unseen mutants are the ones who didn't. In realistic terms tho the show is on CW so the budget probably isn't there for extensive prosthetics even if they wanted to. Which they don't because well it's CW.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Yep, I think the fact that the Grounders were already pretty tooled up and savage when the 100 landed suggests there's something else down there with them. There was a drawing in Lincoln's book of a really big human type figure, maybe it is mutants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Yep, I think the fact that the Grounders were already pretty tooled up and savage when the 100 landed suggests there's something else down there with them. There was a drawing in Lincoln's book of a really big human type figure, maybe it is mutants.
    I'm hoping its actually a large Wicker Man where they burn prisoners. Better to keep the mutations slight. If they do bring the adults down it will just be as boring as the show Terra Nova. Hope the grounders prevent this from happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Great to see Kate Vernon (Ellen Tigh of BSG).

    kinda a similar role


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,978 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    kinda a similar role


    Yes you're probably right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,364 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Well we already have Alessandro Juliani (Lt. Gaeta from BSG) and I'm sure we'll get more turning up.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I keep seeing BSG mentioned in relation to this show. Should I watch it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,364 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I keep seeing BSG mentioned in relation to this show. Should I watch it?

    Watch BSG? There are similarities in the fact it has a couple of cast members and about the last surviving humans trying to survive, but that's where the similarities really end.
    BSG is a great show but I wouldn't recommend it to someone looking for something similar to 100. What other shows do you watch apart from this and OUAT?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Watch BSG? There are similarities in the fact it has a couple of cast members and about the last surviving humans trying to survive, but that's where the similarities really end.
    BSG is a great show but I wouldn't recommend it to someone looking for something similar to 100. What other shows do you watch apart from this and OUAT?

    I don't watch a lot of TV at the moment, to be honest, and I was never a fan of sci-fi space things. I just saw a lot of mentions of BSG in various reviews of The 100 and all in a positive way, so I wondered was it worth watching.

    I hate watch OUAT, to be honest, so recommending me something based on that would be no good at all! :D

    I like TV with well written characters and thought out stories, basically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,978 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I don't watch a lot of TV at the moment, to be honest, and I was never a fan of sci-fi space things. I just saw a lot of mentions of BSG in various reviews of The 100 and all in a positive way, so I wondered was it worth watching.

    I hate watch OUAT, to be honest, so recommending me something based on that would be no good at all! :D

    I like TV with well written characters and thought out stories, basically.

    BSG is much more than a sci-fi show.

    If you can get past it being set in space it really is worth watching.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    BSG is much more than a sci-fi show.

    If you can get past it being set in space it really is worth watching.

    It's not that I have a problem with space itself, it's just that any space set things I ever saw were a bit rubbish. If it's good story telling I don't really care where it's set.

    I think BSG is on Netflix, so I might give it a go.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    So/so episode this week.

    I liked the stuff on the Ark. I love how fast everything moves. The blonde one is introduced, we're thinking maybe she's dodgy, next thing she's blowing up bits of the ship and going full on mutiny on them. Excellent!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    yeah not too bad so the only adults on the ground will be total @ssholes. Not sure who made up thee 13th spaceships but saw the Brazilian flag being carried by one of the kids and I think Italy


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    ^ I saw Canada, Brasil, Japan and something that looked like the Ecuador flag?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    According to someone on imdb these are the countries, and some are pretty random

    The 12 flags in the Unity Day celebration:
    • Australia
    • Brazil
    • Canada
    • China
    • France
    • India (upside down)
    • Japan
    • Russia
    • U.K.
    • U.S.A.
    • Uganda
    • Venezuela (with coat of arms)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    ^Some of them are probably just nods to people on the crew, or cast in the case of Australia.
    We don't actually know what point in the future this is set, only that it's nearly 100 years after the earth was destroyed. Maybe by the time that happens Uganda is a major player in the space race?


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