O'Gara poised to join Sexton at Racing Metro

CoDy1

I wonder who will be a better pundit ROG or Sexton?


/runs away..

lologram

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

no one does the touch screen better than will greenwood.

Aye, Greenwood's always the star of that show. Speaks well and has the rugby pedigree too.

Aidric

lologram wrote: »

Aye, Greenwood's always the star of that show. Speaks well and has the rugby pedigree too.

I like Greenwood, always very honest and neutral as a pundit. Doesn't get sucked in to the jingoism of colleagues like Morris for example.

Ruck Inspector

good little insight there by ROG

Mahatma Geansai

ROG was very impressive in his role as a pundit IMO. Hopefully he'll be able to keep it up when he starts his coaching.

rrpc

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

ROG was very impressive in his role as a pundit IMO. Hopefully he'll be able to keep it up when he starts his coaching.

Really enjoyed his contributions there, loved the way he was cracking up laughing when they said he'd be coaching Jonny.

Was very complimentary of him too, said his crossfield kick to Nacewa was top class and a very difficult skill.

vienne86

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

ROG was very impressive in his role as a pundit IMO. Hopefully he'll be able to keep it up when he starts his coaching.

I've only just watched a recording of this.....and was very impressed. Loved his bit at the touch screen, making the comparison between James and Wilkinson. Would love to see more of him as a pundit.

CoDy1

In fairness he looked a bit nervy for his first time but his analysis and insight was impressive.

He obviously has massive respect for Jonny and having a familiar face around can do nothing but help Jonny settle in and do what he is being paid(nicely) to do.

Radge and Jsex bessies for eva.

Ruck Inspector

loved how he mentioned Wilkinson and spiral kicks and how it was becoming rarer in the game.

accidentprone1

Any recordings up that show ROG's analysis?

darragh_haven

CoDy1 wrote: »

In fairness he looked a bit nervy for his first time but his analysis and insight was impressive.

He obviously has massive respect for Jonny and having a familiar face around can do nothing but help Jonny settle in and do what he is being paid(nicely) to do.

Radge and Jsex bessies for eva.

Ok. From now now on Johnny sexton does not exist. Its Jsex. (Although it sound like a black rapper from detroit)

Chabals Beard

Ruck Inspector wrote: »

loved how he mentioned Wilkinson and spiral kicks and how it was becoming rarer in the game.

ROG made the spiral!

Bogota

Apparently Sexton was the one who actually recommended ROG as a potential coach.

yimrsg

Bogota wrote: »

Apparently Sexton was the one who actually recommended ROG as a potential coach.

How could he have recommended ROG as a potential coach if he never knew he would retire?

phog

Bogota wrote: »

Apparently Sexton was the one who actually recommended ROG as a potential coach.

Another story doing the rounds is that late last year Racing were talking to ROG about joining them and he said they should chase up Sexton.

Teferi

The pair of them are bros now, wouldn't surprise me to see them recommending each other. You're getting class either side.

Bogota

yimrsg wrote: »

How could he have recommended ROG as a potential coach if he never knew he would retire?

ROG has been talking about going over to coach in France for awhile now. This isn't an idea that happened in the last few weeks. I've only heard that Sexton recommended ROG, I've no idea how it came up but I'd guess that the Racing president asked Sexton about ROG and it was something that Racing were considering before Sexton was even in negotiations. I believe that ROG was contacted by another french club last season about potentially joining up with them as coach after he finishes rugby so he was clearly sought before any news on his retirement came to the fore.

totallegend

Bogota wrote: »

Apparently Sexton was the one who actually recommended ROG as a potential coach.

Think that's turned out to be untrue.

yimrsg

Bogota wrote: »

ROG has been talking about going over to coach in France for awhile now. This isn't an idea that happened in the last few weeks. I've only heard that Sexton recommended ROG, I've no idea how it came up but I'd guess that the Racing president asked Sexton about ROG and it was something that Racing were considering before Sexton was even in negotiations. I believe that ROG was contacted by another french club last season about potentially joining up with them as coach after he finishes rugby so he was clearly sought before any news on his retirement came to the fore.

That's all conjecture. Sexton himself was surprised at ROG's retirement/move to coaching.

Yeah, obviously, I thought he’d go for another season with Munster.

He talks about having no idea about O'Gara's role with Racing.

I don’t know what his role exactly is

Quotes from here: http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/irish/2013/0518/451108-sexton-knew-nothing-of-ogara-move-to-racing/

The above quotes are hardly indicative of Sexton recommending ROG to Lorenzetti & Racing. There is much more firm evidence to say that Sexton had no idea about ROG moving to coaching/retirement than there is saying he recommended him for the role. You're only spreading hearsay.

irishbucsfan

Chabals Beard wrote: »

ROG made the spiral!

Right after Wilkinson did...

Bogota

yimrsg wrote: »

That's all conjecture. Sexton himself was surprised at ROG's retirement/move to coaching.



He talks about having no idea about O'Gara's role with Racing.



Quotes from here: http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/irish/2013/0518/451108-sexton-knew-nothing-of-ogara-move-to-racing/

The above quotes are hardly indicative of Sexton recommending ROG to Lorenzetti & Racing. There is much more firm evidence to say that Sexton had no idea about ROG moving to coaching/retirement than there is saying he recommended him for the role. You're only spreading hearsay.

I pretty much said as much.

Chabals Beard

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Right after Wilkinson did...

Well excuuuuuuus me

Dropatgoal

just read a very interesting article about that man O'Gara. Its called a lifetime at ten, great read.
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thomond2006

Teferi wrote: »

The pair of them are bros now

Now that's a front page headline! :pac:

Chabals Beard

Dropatgoal wrote: »

just read a very interesting article about that man O'Gara. Its called a lifetime at ten, great read.
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Stop trying to plug your blog, second website I have seen this link

jamiedav2011

Chabals Beard wrote: »

Stop trying to plug your blog, second website I have seen this link

Plus it's mainly sycophantic ****e aswell.

trouttrout

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Plus it's mainly sycophantic ****e aswell.

good word!

jamiedav2011

trouttrout wrote: »

good word!

I have cromulent word power...

totallegend

So O'Gara's wife has come out swinging at Kidney...
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ogaras-wife-attacks-former-coach-kidney-over-treatment-of-star-29281954.html

Two questions:
1) Why is his wife even being interviewed? Is that not a bit weird?
2) What did she want, that Ireland would pick O'Gara even though he was playing badly, just so he could have a send-off?

He was really mistreated. For what he gave to Ireland for so many years, he could have been treated a lot better.

All a bit odd?

Superbus

Wife in 'supporting husband' shock.

danthefan

Don't have much issue with Mrs. O'Gara's comments but the Indo should be embarrassed for printing it, real tabloid stuff. A poster on PR who would know the odd person is also saying she didn't think her comments were on the record and is quite annoyed at the article.

totallegend

danthefan wrote: »

Don't have much issue with Mrs. O'Gara's comments but the Indo should be embarrassed for printing it, real tabloid stuff. A poster on PR who would know the odd person is also saying she didn't think her comments were on the record and is quite annoyed at the article.

Yeah, that's more what I was getting at, that I just can't get my head around why it's in the paper in the first place.

Obviously she's not going to say "yeah Deccie was right to drop him, sure did you see how crap he was against Scotland?", I just don't know why she's come out with any comment at all, but if she thought she was off the record, then that might explain it.

Grimebox

totallegend wrote: »

So O'Gara's wife has come out swinging at Kidney...
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ogaras-wife-attacks-former-coach-kidney-over-treatment-of-star-29281954.html

Two questions:
1) Why is his wife even being interviewed? Is that not a bit weird?
2) What did she want, that Ireland would pick O'Gara even though he was playing badly, just so he could have a send-off?



All a bit odd?

You're talking about it and linking the article

This is the most ridiculous part of the whole article to be fair.

It was the first time in his 128-cap and 13-year career that a fully fit O'Gara was not on the team or bench for his country.

We have no history whatsoever of squad growth. This situation can't happen again. We need to become familiar with the idea that Heaslip won't be playing against Tonga in an AI even when fit, or that Healy and Best might not make the XXIII against Scotland in a 6N dead rubber.

- should really be in the Ireland thread, but can't really just pull the link in there.

jm08

Deleted User wrote: »

This is the most ridiculous part of the whole article to be fair.

We have no history whatsoever of squad growth. This situation can't happen again. We need to become familiar with the idea that Heaslip won't be playing against Tonga in an AI even when fit, or that Healy and Best might not make the XXIII against Scotland in a 6N dead rubber.

- should really be in the Ireland thread, but can't really just pull the link in there.

A similar story with John Hayes I'd say. We've rarely been short of hookers (though it was a bit tight there after Flannery retired) or backrowers, but when it has come to outhalfs and tightheads - now thats a different story.

totallegend

Deleted User wrote: »

This is the most ridiculous part of the whole article to be fair.

It was the first time in his 128-cap and 13-year career that a fully fit O'Gara was not on the team or bench for his country.

I'm pretty sure that's also not true.

thomond2006

ROG doesn't need his wife to defend him.

totallegend

thomond2006 wrote: »

ROG doesn't need his wife to defend him.

Again, I didn't post it to have a go at ROG, I was just surprised that she came out and said these things to a newspaper.

Paulw

thomond2006 wrote: »

ROG doesn't need his wife to defend him.

He may not need it, but it seems to be what is happening. Very childish, it seems.

In many ways, his ending at Ireland and Munster were not what anyone would have wanted. He has been a great servant for both, but he had a poor year this year, and his kicking hasn't been what it used to be. He has made some terrible decisions in play this year. Combine that with poor performances by Ireland and also Munster made his ending all the more visible.

Maybe his new coaching career will go well, but it certainly won't be easy there, especially with Sexton. A personality conflict won't help their careers.

thomond2006

totallegend wrote: »

Again, I didn't post it to have a go at ROG, I was just surprised that she came out and said these things to a newspaper.

That's what I mean.

darragh_haven

Paulw wrote: »

Maybe his new coaching career will go well, but it certainly won't be easy there, especially with Sexton. A personality conflict won't help their careers.

Why do you think there'd be a personality conflict. From most accounts there are on good terms for the last while.

Micky Dolenz

Paulw wrote: »

Maybe his new coaching career will go well, but it certainly won't be easy there, especially with Sexton. A personality conflict won't help their careers.

I'd think that is over played. They would have trained together for years, discussed tactics, traded stories etc. I have no doubt they are pro's and maybe even friends.

I would expect that they will even socialise on occasion over the next while.

Paulw

darragh_haven wrote: »

Why do you think there'd be a personality conflict. From most accounts there are on good terms for the last while.

They never seem to get along. They train separately, kick separately and barely spend any time together in the Ireland camp. Even for national games, they don't talk and don't seem to have any time for each other on the pitch even before kickoff.

its_phil

Paulw wrote: »

They never seem to get along. They train separately, kick separately and barely spend any time together in the Ireland camp. Even for national games, they don't talk and don't seem to have any time for each other on the pitch even before kickoff.

So from about 20 secs worth of tv at the end of an Ireland game, you've come to the conclusion they don't like eachother.

How would you know if they spend time with eachother in camp and before kick offs? Nothing you have said is based on fact and all speculation.

Larbre34

Both men admitted directly at the weekend that they had got off to a rocky start but that they had a friendship now, admired each other greatly and would eat and socialise together within the context of team gatherings

Sounds an ok relationship to me, if they just needed to show bare tolerance for each other they wouldnt have spoken so warmly as ROG did on Sky and Jonny did to Mick Corcoran. Besides, they are being paid the guts of a Million between them to get their sh*t together and get on!

On Mrs O'Gara, the Indo should never have asked and she should never have spoken. ROG is nothing if not a proud guy, if I were him Id be spitting. Was it an interview or attributed quotes though?

Cookiemunster

Paulw wrote: »

They never seem to get along. They train separately, kick separately and barely spend any time together in the Ireland camp. Even for national games, they don't talk and don't seem to have any time for each other on the pitch even before kickoff.

How wrong you are. ROG said on Sky on Saturday that they're good mates and often go for a coffee together. In fact according to one of the recent paper articles ROG is going to Sextons wedding.

Paulw

its_phil wrote: »

So from about 20 secs worth of tv at the end of an Ireland game, you've come to the conclusion they don't like eachother.

From personal observation, not from the TV. I am there for every Ireland game, and there before the teams arrive. I have also talked to others who are on camp.

Kinda obvious if you look at their body language and their interaction, especially compared to other teammates.

opinionatedfan

O’Driscoll admitted that he was “as shocked as anyone else,” on discovering that O’Gara had agreed a coaching role with Racing Metro, signing a two year deal. “The boys have had an interesting relationship but it has grown into a good friendship recently that people might not be aware of. It’ll be good to have one another over there, in a new environment, and it is a dynamic that will work well.

“Their friendship is genuine. It is not a case of covering up anything. They’re good friends now so much so that Rog has been invited to Johnny’s wedding. They got off on a bad footing all those years ago in Croker but Rog understands the competitive nature of Johnny and vice versa.

“When Johnny became number one, not that Ronan resigned himself to that fact, there was probably a little more acceptance that was the (pecking) order. When they spent so much time together in kicking practice and days off they probably got to know each other’s personalities better.”

rrpc

opinionatedfan wrote: »

O’Driscoll admitted that he was “as shocked as anyone else,” on discovering that O’Gara had agreed a coaching role with Racing Metro, signing a two year deal. “The boys have had an interesting relationship but it has grown into a good friendship recently that people might not be aware of. It’ll be good to have one another over there, in a new environment, and it is a dynamic that will work well.

“Their friendship is genuine. It is not a case of covering up anything. They’re good friends now so much so that Rog has been invited to Johnny’s wedding. They got off on a bad footing all those years ago in Croker but Rog understands the competitive nature of Johnny and vice versa.

“When Johnny became number one, not that Ronan resigned himself to that fact, there was probably a little more acceptance that was the (pecking) order. When they spent so much time together in kicking practice and days off they probably got to know each other’s personalities better.”

He tweeted this pic the other day:

rrpc

And this one: