Waterford Politics MEGATHREAD

Gael23 · 25-05-2014 12:42pm

Seamus Ryan is gone then?

fuzzy dunlop · 25-05-2014 12:48pm

With the new constituencies it is a bit more difficult to see the effects of the backlash against the government. The county as a whole seems to reflect the national trend. However I think if you were to make comparisons to the previous electoral areas you will see a clear East/West or City/County divide.
The swing to Sinn Fein is higher in the city whereas in the county they have remained moreso in the hands of the traditional FF and FG tweedledum/dee parties. The government parties are in big trouble in Waterford but especially in the city.

fuzzy dunlop · 25-05-2014 12:48pm

AdMMM wrote: »

No labour in the city. Wow

Indeed

Gael23 · 25-05-2014 12:50pm

fuzzy dunlop wrote: »

With the new constituencies it is a bit more difficult to see the effects of the backlash against the government. The county as a whole seems to reflect the national trend. However I think if you were to make comparisons to the previous electoral areas you will see a clear East/West or City/County divide.
The swing to Sinn Fein is higher in the city whereas in the county they have remained moreso in the hands of the traditional FF and FG tweedledum/dee parties. The government parties are in big trouble in Waterford but especially in the city.

To see someone as long serving as Tom Cunningham in such danger is indeed worrying.

space2ground1 · 25-05-2014 12:55pm

As someone who didn't vote for any party candidate this time, I can speculate that the merger was a factor in the wipeout of government candidates. I made it clear to the very few govt cllrs that bothered to knock on my door that the merger was one of my main reasons that I wouldn't be giving them any kind of vote. I'll shed no tears that we've less govt party cllrs.

Gael23 · 25-05-2014 4:07pm

Tom Cunningham has lost his seat after 20 years.

wellboytoo · 25-05-2014 4:26pm

Hilary Quinlan gone as well.

revisionist · 25-05-2014 4:45pm

good

Taxburden carrier · 25-05-2014 5:09pm

Water boarded ?

space2ground1 · 25-05-2014 5:15pm

A clear message from the people of Waterford that FG/Lab have done nothing for us as we were actively pushed behind the 4 other cities. It'll be a long road uphill for any govt party candidate in Waterford if the death by a thousand cuts approach to our city's 'prosperity' continues.

It gives me no pleasure to see cllrs lose their seats as it must be a tough day for them and their families but when you put party loyalty that high on the priorities list as some did, and the party has your city very low on its list, something's gotta give.

Its a very interesting looking council. I wish them all the best of luck.

Gael23 · 25-05-2014 5:34pm

Jim Darcy out too

Speak Now · 25-05-2014 7:39pm

wellboytoo wrote: »

Hilary Quinlan gone as well.

Did he not get the last seat?

jonnyfingers · 25-05-2014 8:25pm

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Did he not get the last seat?

No that went to Eamonn Quinlan.

AdMMM · 25-05-2014 9:06pm

jonnyfingers wrote: »

No that went to Eamonn Quinlan.

Jaysus you know it must be bad when you lose a seat to someone who lives and works in Dublin!

Martin_D · 25-05-2014 10:28pm

AdMMM wrote: »

Jaysus you know it must be bad when you lose a seat to someone who lives and works in Dublin!

What? who? where?

AdMMM · 25-05-2014 10:46pm

Eamon Quinlan lives and works in Dublin. Doubt he had that in his election literature... and doubt he'll be giving up that job now that he's been elected.

Deise Vu · 26-05-2014 11:49am

I hate the way politics works in this country but with three Govt TDs looking at the likes of Tom Cunningham, Jim Darcy and Seamus Ryan getting a kicking i nthe local elections we can look forward to some serious goodies before the general election. Not half before time either.

(and of course it will be too late to save their seats. One day I look forward to having a politician who can at least see the medium term view let alone the long term one.)

hardybuck · 26-05-2014 2:36pm

Ciara Conway is part of a push against Gilmore's leadership of Labour, in a meeting taking place this afternoon.

She's probably trying to dissociate herself with the party leadership in anticipation of being under severe pressure to retain her seat.

KevIRL · 26-05-2014 3:18pm

Story here

No doubt Ciara very worried about her seat given Labour's abysmal performance in Waterford in the local elections.

Here she is in happier times with the Tánaiste all smiles at the closure of TalkTalk and the loss of 550+ plus jobs from the city

AdMMM · 26-05-2014 3:22pm

She won't even get a chance, he's going to resign long before any vote of no confidence is tabled!

KevIRL · 26-05-2014 3:26pm

Seems like Gilmore is going to get the resignation in first though, with a press conference called for 4pm

Cabaal · 26-05-2014 3:27pm

sounds like she just wants to make a name for herself to get noticed abit, nothing more.

AdMMM · 26-05-2014 3:28pm

What will be more interesting is whether or not she throws her weight behind any potential successor...

Digital Society · 26-05-2014 3:32pm

Amazing display of empathy there from tubby. Waterfords finest.

KevIRL · 26-05-2014 3:34pm

AdMMM wrote: »

What will be more interesting is whether or not she throws her weight behind any potential successor...

I see what you did there :pac:

fricatus · 26-05-2014 3:43pm

FFS lads, can ye please judge her on her work and her track record, rather than on her appearance?

For the record, I think she's a dreadful TD, but only because she has been nowhere to be seen on the issues that matter to Waterford, and has supported a government that has ceded control of our hospital to Cork, our VEC to Wexford, abolished our City Council and done nothing to give us a university like those in Limerick or Galway.

Cabaal · 26-05-2014 3:53pm

Guys, please don't resort to remarks regarding a persons weight etc, Its pretty damn childish and next person to keep doing that sort of thing is getting a warning

nkay1985 · 26-05-2014 5:20pm

He was never going to last the week so she must have thought she could just get some publicity by calling for his resignation. It won't do her any favours down here and she also probably won't have the trust of the next leader.

None of it really matters anyway. She's gone in the next general election without a shadow of a doubt.

fuzzy dunlop · 26-05-2014 6:56pm

nkay1985 wrote: »

He was never going to last the week so she must have thought she could just get some publicity by calling for his resignation. It won't do her any favours down here and she also probably won't have the trust of the next leader.

None of it really matters anyway. She's gone in the next general election without a shadow of a doubt.

I agree it is just political opportunism on her part which has been said. However I think if the LP wants to survive they have to clean house completely of the leadership with the exception of maybe Joan Burton. The last time they were in government with FF they resigned in the middle of the peace process which was not stable yet and they were making a good contribution to under Dick Spring. I Always thought they were punished for that and not because they went in with FF in the first place which is their narrative.

In this case they will say its because they made difficult decisions and probably have nothing to say about the horrendous parochialism and asset stripping of places like Waterford in favour of their own constituencies. People are not stupid they were prepared for cuts as long as they were transparent and fair. The problem for Ciara Conway is by accepting this narrative she herself is admitting to being a failure to the majority in the constituency.

But the good news is Dungarvan got a cycle track and we got lines painted on the hard shoulder..........

Digital Society · 26-05-2014 7:16pm

fricatus wrote: »

FFS lads, can ye please judge her on her work and her track record, rather than on her appearance?

For the record, I think she's a dreadful TD, but only because she has been nowhere to be seen on the issues that matter to Waterford, and has supported a government that has ceded control of our hospital to Cork, our VEC to Wexford, abolished our City Council and done nothing to give us a university like those in Limerick or Galway.

Ok ill just go back to the fact that literally the only time ive ever seen her in my life is when she showed up as we where all made redundant with a smile on her face as if she won some kind of poxy prize.

Hopefully your not turfed out of a job one day and she shows up after the bad news all smiles.

The dumbest mother****er ive ever seen in government. well and truly.

Quicker her and her ****ty labour party gets voted out the better.

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