Greystones - eFibre (Eircom Fibre Roll-out)

red_bairn

MiniGolf wrote: »

My next door neighbour is getting Vodafone fibre installed today (Sunday!!)
I'll let you know what speeds are as soon as I find out...... Edit: He has just arrived and we are letting him in to do the job. Garden Village Kilpedder BTW!
Funny Eircom or Vodafone haven't been on to us to sell it yet!!

UPDATE:
Speedtest done by neighbour... 34megs download and 17 megs upload speed. Compared to my standard broadband of 3.3down and 0.32 upload!

Very nice! I'm in Rathdown Park and we still can't get eFibre even though plenty of residents have it. :S

delta214

red_bairn wrote: »

Very nice! I'm in Rathdown Park and we still can't get eFibre even though plenty of residents have it. :S

I am so sad. I feel like its never going to come here

MiniGolf

MiniGolf wrote: »

My next door neighbour is getting Vodafone fibre installed today (Sunday!!)
I'll let you know what speeds are as soon as I find out...... Edit: He has just arrived and we are letting him in to do the job. Garden Village Kilpedder BTW!
Funny Eircom or Vodafone haven't been on to us to sell it yet!!

UPDATE:
Speedtest done by neighbour... 34megs download and 17 megs upload speed. Compared to my standard broadband of 3.3down and 0.32 upload!

Another update:
I rang Vodafone to see when I can get Fibre Broadband....
Engineer is calling between 12:30 and 16:30 on 04/02/2014!!!
Happy days

Even more good news.... It will now cost me €37 per month for unlimited downloads and 100 minutes to any number - Saving €7 pm on existing bundle.:)

Shazerina

red_bairn wrote: »

Very nice! I'm in Rathdown Park and we still can't get eFibre even though plenty of residents have it. :S

Which part of the park has it? In same boat as you but didn't realise that part of the estate has been connected. Gggrrrr!

red_bairn

Shazerina wrote: »

Which part of the park has it? In same boat as you but didn't realise that part of the estate has been connected. Gggrrrr!

See the Facebook page. A few houses have it in various places 155,163 (basically one of the new houses and the second last old house. I reckon they are waiting for CoCo to allow them to do more civils around the estate.

Aronaay

Anyone know if fiber is available in Charlesland yet? Eircoms website says it is and I know the sales people will say the same. But I don't want to waste my time switch to only find out that it isnt

Jimjay

Aronaay wrote: »

Anyone know if fiber is available in Charlesland yet? Eircoms website says it is and I know the sales people will say the same. But I don't want to waste my time switch to only find out that it isnt

i am in charlesland wood and have had it installed since November last year (if i remember correctly)
i am close to the cab but get about 55mb/s thought i would get nearer 70 but its good anyway. no problems yet (touch wood)

Aronaay

Thanks for letting me know. I think I'll switch so. Upc just never seems to work properly

clocha_liatha

anyone got any update on e fibre for redford park, map says its available but on putting number in, says its not !

MiniGolf

MiniGolf wrote: »

Another update:
I rang Vodafone to see when I can get Fibre Broadband....
Engineer is calling between 12:30 and 16:30 on 04/02/2014!!!
Happy days

Even more good news.... It will now cost me €37 per month for unlimited downloads and 100 minutes to any number - Saving €7 pm on existing bundle.:)

All done yesterday!

40 Meg's download and 20 upload! Happy

red_bairn

clocha_liatha wrote: »

anyone got any update on e fibre for redford park, map says its available but on putting number in, says its not !

I haven't yet heard about eFibre in Redford Pk. But some people from Blacklion Manor seem to be using that cabinet.

There are some houses in Rathdown Pk that can get eFibre but a resident got an email from somebody in the corp from wholesalessaying that a lot of us might not have our lines travelling through the old cabinet at the top of the road, across from Esso, but directly down the town to the old exchange (behind the old post office). So the lines might go through the St.Kevins laneway or something even worse. :rolleyes:

MiniGolf wrote: »

All done yesterday!

40 Meg's download and 20 upload! Happy

Where are you at, Mini?

MyPerfectCousin

MyPerfectCousin wrote: »

KN Networks has started working on GRS1_066 Charlesland Park this morning.

2.5 months later, they have returned to continue work. So far just dumped some concrete and topsoil at the site and blocked it off.

MiniGolf

red_bairn wrote: »

Where are you at, Mini?

Garden Village, Kilpedder

loyatemu

Eircom now have a map of all cabinets, live and planned, on their website - click on "NGA Network"

red_bairn

loyatemu wrote: »

Eircom now have a map of all cabinets, live and planned, on their website - click on "NGA Network"

Pity it doesn't give an update on why many homes can't be provided the service. :rolleyes:

legrand

red_bairn wrote: »

Pity it doesn't give an update on why many homes can't be provided the service. :rolleyes:

thanks for link.

Of concern is the lack of planned VDSL cabs for Greystones. As far as I can tell most of Greystones will remain on copper for the foreseeable unless someone (any Eircom folks out there willing to contribute?) can advise how houses currently connected to ADSL cabs with no adjacent VDSL cabs installed are expected to be able to access eFibre?

loyatemu

Maybe we should make a list of old cabs around the town that have not had a VDSL cab installed beside them. Also some lines (including mine I suspect) are fed directly from the exchange - AFAIK these lines can not get VDSL currently but eircom are planning on doing something with them later in the year.

red_bairn

loyatemu wrote: »

Maybe we should make a list of old cabs around the town that have not had a VDSL cab installed beside them. Also some lines (including mine I suspect) are fed directly from the exchange - AFAIK these lines can not get VDSL currently but eircom are planning on doing something with them later in the year.

Here is what Pat Murphy, a resident in Rathdown Park, quoted on the Rathdown Park Facebook page:

I copy below the most comprehensive response I've received. Apparently some Rathdown Park housed were connected via a 'Passive Cabinet' at entrance to estate, while others were wired directly to the exchange. Those wired via the cabinet now have efibre as it just required adding a new cabinet (fed by fibre) alongside the old one and switching over. Those of us wired directly to exchange will have to wait for quite some time yet. Here's the response: Pat -

Please don't take my silence as indifference! I have been working with
the team responsible for rolling out the fibre network to get the bottom
of your situation.

In short, your case has complexities and those complexities are not
straight forward to explain. These in turn have been driving your
frustration in an attempt to get a simple yes/no answer from eircom.

At the moment, I am afraid the answer is that you can't get eFibre and
this is down to a number of factors starting with the existing the
network architecture in the estate as well as the regulatory constraints
and processes for putting a solution in place.

The telephone line that serves your home is one of a number in the
estate that are connected directly back to the telephone exchange. I
suspect, but you can confirm that the estate has developed over a period
of time. At some point when the rest of the estate was constructed,
those lines were connected back to the exchange but they went via a
passive cabinet, probably located at the entrance of the estate. This is
likely to be a green cabinet and it acts as a junction point which up
until now was used to make the job of finding and isolating faults much
easier.

Roll forward to the introduction of broadband and all the residents of
the estate would have had access to broadband and by and large would
have similar speeds as the broadband signal was emanating from the
exchange and all the homes are by and large the same distance from the
exchange.

When eircom announced it was investing in fibre broadband to deliver
much faster speeds, we decided on a fibre to the cabinet technical
solution 'FTTC'. What this means is that we would erect a second cabinet
next to the existing cabinet, run a fibre connection from the exchange
to the new cabinet and move the broadband equipment from the exchange
into the second green cabinet. This then significantly shortens the
distance the broadband signal travels over copper wires and
significantly increases the speeds available.

So when the work was done to upgrade the cabinet in Rathdown Park, those
customers who were originally connected to the passive cabinet now had
connections that would support much faster broadband speeds. However,
for those of you in the estate who were directly connected to the
exchange via a copper cable for the entire route, there is no change in
broadband speeds. In fairness, the network planners would have flagged
this in the design process.

It is important to highlight that there is quite a bit of regulation
that surrounds the industry and our rollout of services such as fibre.
The key point is that all the industry participants, ComReg the
regulator and ourselves have to agree all the processes that surround
the rollout of fibre. So the first processes that were agreed were the
processes of moving from a passive cabinet to a second active cabinet
environment.

In the case of the direct fed lines (your case) eircom has been working
actively with industry to agree the best way to serve you so that you
too will see increased broadband speeds. There has been quite a bit of
progress, but it has yet to be finalised.

So what does it all mean for you and the other customers in your
situation in Greystones? The good news is that there will be a solution,
but at this point it is impossible for me to offer you a specific date
as to when the solution will be in place. The bad news is that it won't
be at least until mid 2015 (can't be more specific at this stage), when
the planners factor in the work already scheduled for our nationwide
rollout. The specific technical solution to be used in your case, hasn't
been agreed yet.

Not great news I know, but that unfortunately is the detailed answer.

As for the confusion with the various agents, I am sorry. The agents
wouldn't have this level of detail to hand, and as for the technician,
he was making a reasonable assumption that the entire estate was served
off the cabinet, when in reality it isn't. Again I am sorry. It only
raised your hopes unnecessarily. The estimated time frame I am sure
isn't what you hoped for but that is me trying to be realistic. It is
one thing having the regulatory approval, but we then have to schedule
this work in batches along side the batches of other rollout work. Hence
why I can't be specific but I know it will be some time before the
solution is in place.

The best thing I think you can do Pat is that you stay in touch with me
every six months or so and I can seek out an update.

Finally, I am happy to discuss any of this over the phone at your
convenience if you have further questions.

Kind regards,
Paul

Paul Bradley
Director of Corporate Affairs

legrand

At last some clarity (kudos to 'Pat' who made the inquiry and managed to illicit said response).

But another 18 months before we get a solution (maybe!).

heroics

loyatemu wrote: »

Eircom now have a map of all cabinets, live and planned, on their website - click on "NGA Network"

Thanks for this. I am in kilcoole and am connected to one of the cabinets that is red (planned) Any idea if there is a way to find out an estimated date for when this is planned?

MyPerfectCousin

heroics wrote: »

Thanks for this. I am in kilcoole and am connected to one of the cabinets that is red (planned) Any idea if there is a way to find out an estimated date for when this is planned?

I doubt it. Some of the blue cabinets have notes giving dates when they will be live, some don't. And the red ones don't have any info. I would bet this is the most info you'll get and it won't always be up to date.

For example, both GRS1_066 and GRS1_052 in Charlesland Park are being worked on as of yesterday, but they are both still marked red on the map.

I wonder what kind of speeds I would get given the distance from my front steps?

red_bairn

MyPerfectCousin wrote: »

I wonder what kind of speeds I would get given the distance from my front steps?

Ah fer jaysus sake! They may as well sort you out with an ONT and do the civils for FTTH. :pac:

ronang

As I ran past one of the workers earlier today - I asked him how long he thought it would be before the e-fibre was up and running in the Park. His estimation was 2/3 months as work is still required to upgrade the lines.

red_bairn

ronang wrote: »

As I ran past one of the workers earlier today - I asked him how long he thought it would be before the e-fibre was up and running in the Park. His estimation was 2/3 months as work is still required to upgrade the lines.

What "Park"? PLenty of "Parks" around Greystones.

ronang

Apologies - Charlesland.

MyPerfectCousin

The new cabinets for GRS1_066 and GRS1_052 in Charlesland Park were installed today.

eko

Just wondering; has anyone in Eden Gate installed eFibre yet? I know a whole load of door to door sales guys were in the estate a few weeks ago. Was wondering if installations were going ahead and if so what speeds were being obtained.

jpd

I have just ordered an eFibre upgrade for home in Bellevue Heights today (3 Feb 2014)

Currently on the 24 Mb/s broadband - the modem is connected at 10260/668 at the moment, which is fairly standard. The Eircom broadband speed measures 8.91 Mb/s download and 556 b/s upload.

red_bairn

jpd wrote: »

I have just ordered an eFibre upgrade for home in Bellevue Heights today (3 Feb 2014)

Currently on the 24 Mb/s broadband - the modem is connected at 10260/668 at the moment, which is fairly standard. The Eircom broadband speed measures 8.91 Mb/s download and 556 b/s upload.

I don't remember seeing a cabinet anywhere near your estate. The closest is on the Killincarraig Road outside Delgany Glen and Lower Grattan Park (across from Donnybrook Fair).

jpd

red_bairn wrote: »

I don't remember seeing a cabinet anywhere near your estate. The closest is on the Killincarraig Road outside Delgany Glen and Lower Grattan Park (across from Donnybrook Fair).

I've been told that I'm connected to cabinet by Donnybrook Fair