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Call for Gardai to be given drones to help fight crime in Ennis

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I can picture the drones lined up outside supermacs waiting to collect dinner for the lads! The very notion of using drones as a tool is a clear indication of the level of delusion that is out there. A desperate measure if you ask me. Drone = Flying scrap metal!

    The same thing was said about jet engines and helicopters 60 years ago ,

    Welcome to progress


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,019 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Gatling wrote: »
    If you own a smart phone that null and voids your argument

    No it doesn't ...... you have a choice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Irish_Style


    In that hands of the right people they might be of some benefit, these drones require a lot of experience and skill to fly. The cost of the drones and training people in would be very high. Also the area covered by drones is very limited, criminals would become quickly aware of this and carry on there business out side of these ranges. This has all the potential to become another E-Voting machine affair! The money would be better spent on getting more boots on the ground and new cars as our Gard's are already struggling with what they have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    Gatling wrote: »
    The same thing was said about jet engines and helicopters 60 years ago ,

    Welcome to progress


    Jaysuz, one of them would be mighty handy, for herding the cattle morning and evening. Any chance, we could get a grant, to buy a handful of them:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    In that hands of the right people they might be of some benefit, these drones require a lot of experience and skill to fly. The cost of the drones and training people in would be very high. Also the area covered by drones is very limited, criminals would become quickly aware of this and carry on there business out side of these ranges..

    If you can play Xbox or PC game you could easily fly drone most of the systems are actually automated ,

    Drones can cover a massive area, a, some use camera's that can cover 10km add infra red abilities they can go more places than a partol car or transit van can and a lot quicker too,
    Ideally used along side foot/motor patrols a system that can be operated 24 hrs a day and can loiter for up to 12 hours in an airspace ,they would be a massive assistance to any Garda force


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭pilate 1


    Gatling wrote: »
    If you can play Xbox or PC game you could easily fly drone most of the systems are actually automated ,

    Drones can cover a massive area, a, some use camera's that can cover 10km add infra red abilities they can go more places than a partol car or transit van can and a lot quicker too,
    Ideally used along side foot/motor patrols a system that can be operated 24 hrs a day and can loiter for up to 12 hours in an airspace ,they would be a massive assistance to any Garda force

    if they are that easy operate i would assume they are very easy to tamper with(unless they have high end military spec costing mega bucks) the whole idea of drones in ennis to help fight crime is quiet simply pie in the sky:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dgerryd


    Some guys are so blind to the world around them like lambs to the sloughter


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Drones coming? No problem, check out this website on how to disable/jam them, though it does warn against using an AK47!:D:cool:
    http://crab.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/how-to-down-a-drone/

    Some suggest just fly a kite, drone gets tangled, down it goes. Not my fault, perfectly entitled to fly a kite and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭dgerryd


    Drones coming? No problem, check out this website on how to disable/jam them, though it does warn against using an AK47!:D:cool:
    http://crab.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/how-to-down-a-drone/

    Some suggest just fly a kite, drone gets tangled, down it goes. Not my fault, perfectly entitled to fly a kite and all that.

    LOL BB gun sales could soar great target practice


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    The majority of crime is committed by a handful of wasters that are known to gardai. If there wasn't a soft touch court system and there was a concerted effort to take these wasters off the streets then crime in Ennis would drop like a stone. Using drones would be an orwellian invasion of everybodys privacy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The majority of crime is committed by a handful of wasters that are known to gardai. If there wasn't a soft touch court system and there was a concerted effort to take these wasters off the streets then crime in Ennis would drop like a stone. Using drones would be an orwellian invasion of everybodys privacy.

    Where's the invasion of privacy


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Gatling wrote: »
    Where's the invasion of privacy

    They only have themselves to blame when they look at pictures of me sunbathing...
    Put it this way, be careful what you do in your own backyard, there's a guy with sweaty palms and his finger on the button watching you.
    Since you have nothing to hide, in a few years, when technology has advanced sufficiently, would you consent to your own, personal drone following you around all day? it will be the size of a fly and buzz around your head 24/7. It will record everything you do, say, where you go, what you buy, who you speak to and what you get up to in the bathroom.
    Once everyone has one of those, crime will be impossible. Won't that be brilliant? All it takes is complete 24/7 surveillance and the world will be a much better place.
    Since you're honest and therefore have nothing to fear, you should have no reason to refuse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Gatling wrote: »
    Where's the invasion of privacy

    The drone hovering overhead surveilling you maybe? Being watched by some eye in the sky would be an invasion of privacy in my book, and quite frankly it would be sinister and oppressing. We have a right to go about our daily business without being spied on.

    No doubt if this tech was available 30 years ago surveillance states like East Germany would have been very enthusiastic about using it, to "keep people safe".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭CptSternn


    johnam wrote: »
    These drones are not big enough to affect shannon, I also doubt they would be flying high enough.

    Terrifying: The Moment A Drone Narrowly Misses Passenger Plane

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/terrifying-the-moment-a-drone-narrowly-misses-passenger-plane-carrying-100-people/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Im going to sit on the fence for now, regarding drones. The scope for abuse in the future is huge and im aware of little innocuous steps leading to massive changes for the worse later on. But used right, they are very effective. What would negate them is some crim bribing a drone pilot to look the other way and that is a very real possibility. So we develop fully automated drones....well, i've seen the movies and they didn't end well!

    Finally, are drones any different to police helicopters? Apart from cost, obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭CptSternn


    To respond to some earlier posts, here is a picture of a drone operator and a drone, to give everyone an idea of the size of one of these things.

    130606-bryant-drone.380;380;7;70;0.jpg


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