GAA Pearse Stadium parking - read mod warning in post #1

crusier

Iwannahurl wrote: »

It would be highly surprising if there wasn't a GAA/AGS connection, for the simple reason that the GAA is such a broad-based and popular organisation.

But you're right, the parking madness is not confined to GAA events, and AGS is not giving them a special dispensation. They're giving motorists a special dispensation, in the same way that the Council gave god-bothering motorists a plenary indulgence by closing off a road beside the Cathedral so that they could park a few steps away free of charge and free of all responsibility. This in a small city supposedly choked with traffic to the extent that a €500 million "bypass" is urgently required to end otherwise unavoidable "gridlock".

There is no large-scale enforcement, or large-scale traffic plan for major events or congested roads, because the corporate culture in the AGS and Council is laissez faire accommodation of motorists to the maximum extent possible. All else is secondary, including road safety and access for people travelling by any means other than the private car.

I guess AGS has to work with the resources it has available to it which is never adequate, they also have to work with the location and road network which is the result of 30 years of bad planning of which they have had little say or imput and when they had it was ignored. They have to deal with whingers who want to drive to the gate and park at the gate and whingers who go around with prams and no child in them trying to find a place they cannot pass and then take photos. The would be no matches, race week, arts festival, paddy's day parade. Airshow ( sorry they shafted that one) if Dan or Iwh had their way. But we could always walk around the town and see the empty streets !

Dan_Solo

crusier wrote: »

I guess AGS has to work with the resources it has available to it which is never adequate

Which is why as many Gardai as possible need to be stationed within yards of the pitch and watch the pitch intently for any signs of criminal activity in the 50 or so yards in front of them. Best possible use of manpower that.

crusier wrote: »

They have to deal with whingers who want to drive to the gate and park at the gate

How do they deal with them? "Howya"?

crusier wrote: »

and whingers who go around with prams and no child in them trying to find a place they cannot pass and then take photos.

Evidence of this happening please.
So it isn't illegal parking unless some "whinger" comes along with a pram? So as long as you can confirm no prams will be used in the vicinity, you are free to park on any footpath you like?

pmasterson95

crusier wrote: »

I guess AGS has to work with the resources it has available to it which is never adequate, they also have to work with the location and road network which is the result of 30 years of bad planning of which they have had little say or imput and when they had it was ignored. They have to deal with whingers who want to drive to the gate and park at the gate and whingers who go around with prams and no child in them trying to find a place they cannot pass and then take photos. The would be no matches, race week, arts festival, paddy's day parade. Airshow ( sorry they shafted that one) if Dan or Iwh had their way. But we could always walk around the town and see the empty streets !

Unless Gandalf is blocking the way you can realistically pass most "obstacles"

Dan_Solo

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Unless Gandalf is blocking the way you can realistically pass most "obstacles"

Ah, I see. So you're proposing we remove all parking restrictions nationwide? I'll just drop the Astra in front of A+E for the day then while I catch a GAA match... obstacles aren't obstacles at all you see!

pmasterson95

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Ah, I see. So you're proposing we remove all parking restrictions nationwide? I'll just drop the Astra in front of A+E for the day then while I catch a GAA match... obstacles aren't obstacles at all you see!

I didnt know there was evidence of these GAA attendees parking in the A&E so that they could get to Pearse Stadium. I presume have evidence of this Mr. Solo as you would never make up wild accusations. Can I see your evidence?

Or are you just totally moving the goalposts? I thought ye were complaining about the havok at Pearse Stadium caused by these foul vehicles obstructing footpaths in a clearly unavoidable way but now you are complaining about blocking A&E. What criteria is this? Or does Pearse Stadium have a A&E I am unaware of? Totally different things mate.

Dan_Solo

pmasterson95 wrote: »

I didnt know there was evidence of these GAA attendees parking in the A&E so that they could get to Pearse Stadium. I presume have evidence of this Mr. Solo as you would never make up wild accusations. Can I see your evidence?

Or are you just totally moving the goalposts? I thought ye were complaining about the havok at Pearse Stadium caused by these foul vehicles obstructing footpaths in a clearly unavoidable way but now you are complaining about blocking A&E. What criteria is this? Or does Pearse Stadium have a A&E I am unaware of? Totally different things mate.

Oh fine then, can you "mate" tell us when and where parking restrictions are to be in place and/or enforced. You seemed to be making a case that everybody should just ignore them if they reckon it'll be grand. Now apparently it's OK some places but not others.
So, to be clear: parking across the full width of a FOOTpath is grand and dandy under your new rules... but not blocking A+E? What about blocking residential driveways? OK/not OK under your new rules? Anything consistent other than whatever you feel at the time or make it up as you go along?
Thought not.

mercuroman

mercuroman wrote: »

I'm sorry - I'm trying to figure this out - did you go to Pearse Stadium just to take pictures of the guards from the different entrances? And then check cars parked in disabled spots for stickers?

Exactly this and it's pathetic.

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Ah, I see. So you're proposing we remove all parking restrictions nationwide? I'll just drop the Astra in front of A+E for the day then while I catch a GAA match... obstacles aren't obstacles at all you see!

Once drive ways aren't blocked and roads aren't blocked to traffic or emergency services (or disabled spaces abused) I think it's right to turn a blind eye to most other things like parking on footpaths etc for big events such as matches, the novena etc it's only for a few hours every now and again and it's only fair that people can park a reasonable distance from their destination.

pmasterson95

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Oh fine then, can you "mate" tell us when and where parking restrictions are to be in place and/or enforced. You seemed to be making a case that everybody should just ignore them if they reckon it'll be grand. Now apparently it's OK some places but not others.
So, to be clear: parking across the full width of a FOOTpath is grand and dandy under your new rules... but not blocking A+E? What about blocking residential driveways? OK/not OK under your new rules? Anything consistent other than whatever you feel at the time or make it up as you go along?
Thought not.

Well then you (unsuprisingly) thought wrong Mr.Solo! (also bizzare placement of "mate" in your response). Now 1st things first, you put a lot of emphasis on the "foot" part of "footpath". Is this due to you believing that only feet and no wheels are allowed at all. This is rather discriminatory against wheelchair users and people who have buggies. Or are you knee jerk responses always so poorly thought out and phrased? Or do you just make them up presuming not to be questioned?

Well you picked A&E as your example and blocking it. Well A&E is used to transport patients who may be seriously wounded and in need of immediate care. Blocking this may lead to a persons death. There is no option of just walking around the car if you have a patient on a strecher who may need to be loaded/unloaded (the strecher is not just thrown in you know?). You having to navigate around a car buying milk or walking your dog you wont die doing that mate! Well the stakes arent as high.

Do you actually think that you being inconvenienced and having your walk rerouted by maybe a metre and having to briefly navigate a road (the Safe Cross Code is great help for this if your stuck) is this same as obstructing the emergency services from potentially saving someones life?

I see no problem with making sure the Gardai ensure A&E stays unblocked. As that could save lives. Whining about a footpath being blocked isn't life or death. Blocking A&E is.


I couldn't help but notice you still havent explained your desire to park your Astra in an A&E to get to Pearse Stadium? Are you going to explain that point or hope it floats away?

pmasterson95

Dan_Solo wrote: »

If you key an illegally parked car, is it likely the driver will go to the Gardaí?

Also Mr.Solo I couldnt help but think of this. Are you allowed perform acts of vandalism so long as the driver wont report you? You seem to be trying to claim that I am selectively choosing when and where the law applies yet this post is hardly showing you have much care for law enforcement, if you can get away with breaking it. You seem to want parking rules strictly enforced but vandalism laws ignored. Fascinating.

zarquon

Conor Warm Hazel wrote: »

Once drive ways aren't blocked and roads aren't blocked to traffic or emergency services (or disabled spaces abused) I think it's right to turn a blind eye

The problem was that drive ways were blocked, approach roads were blocked and disabled spaces were abused.

That is unnacceptable behaviour to say the least.

Iwannahurl

crusier wrote: »

I guess AGS has to work with the resources it has available to it which is never adequate, they also have to work with the location and road network which is the result of 30 years of bad planning of which they have had little say or imput and when they had it was ignored. They have to deal with whingers who want to drive to the gate and park at the gate and whingers who go around with prams and no child in them trying to find a place they cannot pass and then take photos. The would be no matches, race week, arts festival, paddy's day parade. Airshow ( sorry they shafted that one) if Dan or Iwh had their way. But we could always walk around the town and see the empty streets !

There's so much faulty thinking in that post, it's worth dissecting it line by line. I'll do that later...

Dan_Solo

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Well then you (unsuprisingly) thought wrong Mr.Solo! (also bizzare placement of "mate" in your response). Now 1st things first, you put a lot of emphasis on the "foot" part of "footpath". Is this due to you believing that only feet and no wheels are allowed at all. This is rather discriminatory against wheelchair users and people who have buggies. Or are you knee jerk responses always so poorly thought out and phrased? Or do you just make them up presuming not to be questioned?

Your pedantry is quite ironic considering it is you yourself who is proposing those same wheelchair and buggy users should be forced onto the road whenever a car owner feels like it. Or are you just a bit of a sociopath who couldn't care less if wheelchair users have to go up and down a kerb into traffic?

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Well you picked A&E as your example and blocking it. Well A&E is used to transport patients who may be seriously wounded and in need of immediate care. Blocking this may lead to a persons death. There is no option of just walking around the car if you have a patient on a strecher who may need to be loaded/unloaded (the strecher is not just thrown in you know?). You having to navigate around a car buying milk or walking your dog you wont die doing that mate! Well the stakes arent as high.

Oh, well earlier you were insisting something or other about only Gandalf being able to make obstacles that cannot be passed. This may be a shock, so you might want to sit down before hearing it, but Gandalf is a fictional character. Apologies if this is a bit of a finding-out-about-Santa moment for you. You see when you brought up fictional magicians to make, what we shall for reasons of expediency, refer to as "your case", you left pretty much no obstacles that you assured us anybody can get around whenever they want. I see you now wish to backtrack and qualify your statement. That's OK, we can't always just make jokes with fantasy characters in them and expect to work that well without a few extra details, eh?

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Do you actually think that you being inconvenienced and having your walk rerouted by maybe a metre and having to briefly navigate a road (the Safe Cross Code is great help for this if your stuck) is this same as obstructing the emergency services from potentially saving someones life?

Oh I see, we're back to everybody walking again are we? What happened to those wheelchair and buggy users you were so determined to champion earlier? Sounds suspiciously as if you didn't give a damn about them at all now, doesn't it? Onto to the road with ye lads, I've got a match to watch!

Dan_Solo

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Also Mr.Solo I couldnt help but think of this. Are you allowed perform acts of vandalism so long as the driver wont report you? You seem to be trying to claim that I am selectively choosing when and where the law applies yet this post is hardly showing you have much care for law enforcement, if you can get away with breaking it. You seem to want parking rules strictly enforced but vandalism laws ignored. Fascinating.

Who knows, maybe the Gardai have the same approach to vandalism as they do to illegal parking: Who (is playing for Galway today)? What (is my bonus for this)? Where (can I locate myself to have the least possible chance of catching criminals)?

crusier

Iwannahurl wrote: »

There's so much faulty thinking in that post, it's worth dissecting it line by line. I'll do that later...

I can't wait, make sure its line by line, but I must warn you I'm not into reading paragraphs of whinging ****e. It might save you some time!

Dan_Solo

crusier wrote: »

I can't wait, make sure its line by line, but I must warn you I'm not into reading paragraphs of whinging ****e. It might save you some time!

Of course, anything approaching logic or objectivity will be "whinging ****e" by definition with the GAA/AGS fanclub here.

mercuroman

zarquon wrote: »

The problem was that drive ways were blocked, approach roads were blocked and disabled spaces were abused.

That is unnacceptable behaviour to say the least.

But I thought it was found that all cars in the parking spaces were badged?

What happened when you told the guards about the blocked driveways, etc? I'd just like to know what happened when someone complained to them about that or them watching the match?

Dan_Solo

mercuroman wrote: »

What happened when you told the guards about the blocked driveways, etc? I'd just like to know what happened when someone complained to them about that or them watching the match?

They got harassed for the rest of their lives? Isn't that what usually happens when you criticize the Gardai?

mercuroman

Dan_Solo wrote: »

They got harassed for the rest of their lives? Isn't that what usually happens when you criticize the Gardai?

Maybe asking them about attending the match could be considered criticism. What about letting them know about the illegally parked cars? Did they dismiss it or have some excuse?

crusier

Dan_Solo wrote: »

They got harassed for the rest of their lives? Isn't that what usually happens when you criticize the Gardai?

Or at least they thought they did!

zarquon

mercuroman wrote: »

But I thought it was found that all cars in the parking spaces were badged?

Not true, 2 of the 4 allocated spaces at the stadium did not have the "blue badge" when i was looking for parking. Another one was using a permit that was a few years out of date so completely invalid so one can assume was used by a chancer using an expired borrowed one. 3 of the 5 disabled spots on the prom were taken up by able bodied people (no permit)

In case i get accused of being a busy body, i had a permit and a disability and because of scumbag behaviour i could not get parking near the stadium. I actually looked for a garda to report the cars at the stadium but there were none outside as the traffic corp were inside the stadium where they should not be and so i could not report the disabled parking abusers whom should have been towed as i had to park first before i could enter! :mad:. They were paid double time to do a simple job but instead they enjoyed the game instead and then did a little bit of junction management afterwards once their recreation was over.

I'm absolutely disgusted with them, double pay and they still won't do their job properly. I understand that gardai are needed in the stadium for safety reasons but the traffic corp have no place being inside the stadium whilst ignoring abuse of the law right outside the stadium.

mercuroman wrote: »

What happened when you told the guards about the blocked driveways, etc? I'd just like to know what happened when someone complained to them about that or them watching the match?

Like i said, i could not report the illegal parking as the traffic corp gardai were INSIDE the stadium which is outrageous!

Wompa1

Conor Warm Hazel wrote: »

Exactly this and it's pathetic.

The person may have had foresight, maybe they live or lived in the city before and had seen the same warnings that the rest of us did about the parking restrictions before the match. Then they saw that the people who are meant to be regulating the traffic were in the stadium and decided to take pictures.

I don't see how that's pathetic, at all. I don't know if you guys who are speaking about how it's not a big deal to walk around the cars have the base of living in that part of the city and putting up with it or if you are just taking it from the viewpoint of people who don't know what it's like and can't show empathy to the people impacted by it.

mercuroman

zarquon wrote: »

Not true, 2 of the 4 allocated spaces at the stadium did not have the "blue badge" when i was looking for parking. Another one was using a permit that was a few years out of date so completely invalid so one can assume was used by a chancer using an expired borrowed one. 3 of the 5 disabled spots on the prom were taken up by able bodied people (no permit)

In case i get accused of being a busy body, i had a permit and a disability and because of scumbag behaviour i could not get parking near the stadium. I actually looked for a garda to report the cars at the stadium but there were none outside as the traffic corp were inside the stadium where they should not be and so i could not report the disabled parking abusers whom should have been towed as i had to park first before i could enter! :mad:. They were paid double time to do a simple job but instead they enjoyed the game instead and then did a little bit of junction management afterwards once their recreation was over.

I'm absolutely disgusted with them, double pay and they still won't do their job properly. I understand that gardai are needed in the stadium for safety reasons but the traffic corp have no place being inside the stadium whilst ignoring abuse of the law right outside the stadium.



Like i said, i could not report the illegal parking as the traffic corp gardai were INSIDE the stadium which is outrageous!

Thanks for the info - apologies for my misstating about the parking in disabled spot - I thought I had read earlier that someone had investigated and found that they were fine.
I think your post is the best I've read about the frustrations of the day. I really hope you follow up on it - there's going to be matches in Salthill every year for many to come.

crusier

zarquon wrote: »

Not true, 2 of the 4 allocated spaces at the stadium did not have the "blue badge" when i was looking for parking. Another one was using a permit that was a few years out of date so completely invalid so one can assume was used by a chancer using an expired borrowed one. 3 of the 5 disabled spots on the prom were taken up by able bodied people (no permit)

In case i get accused of being a busy body, i had a permit and a disability and because of scumbag behaviour i could not get parking near the stadium. I actually looked for a garda to report the cars at the stadium but there were none outside as the traffic corp were inside the stadium where they should not be and so i could not report the disabled parking abusers whom should have been towed as i had to park first before i could enter! :mad:. They were paid double time to do a simple job but instead they enjoyed the game instead and then did a little bit of junction management afterwards once their recreation was over.

I'm absolutely disgusted with them, double pay and they still won't do their job properly. I understand that gardai are needed in the stadium for safety reasons but the traffic corp have no place being inside the stadium whilst ignoring abuse of the law right outside the stadium.



Like i said, i could not report the illegal parking as the traffic corp gardai were INSIDE the stadium which is outrageous!

That's not acceptable I agree, you should ring Salthill station next time and ask for a garda to call out to the location and point out the car to them, most would be only too happy to have it towed away if it was parked in a disabled spot or at the least issue a fine if a toe wagon is unavailable.

zarquon

crusier wrote: »

That's not acceptable I agree, you should ring Salthill station next time and ask for a garda to call out to the location and point out the car to them, most would be only too happy to have it towed away if it was parked in a disabled spot or at the least issue a fine if a toe wagon is unavailable.

There were numerous gardai in attendance already! I should not have to ring the station. They were paid double to do a simple job and did not do it. I will be issuing a formal complaint which will no doubt get ignored as the greater good of a big event to the city is far more important to these overpaid lazy public servants than the likes of me. The whole towing and clamping notices issued in advance of the game were complete lip service and people know by now that they can call the bluff of the gardai as they don't care. The only thing the traffic corp did do was keep the traffic flowing to and from the stadium, they had no interest in anything else which is ridiculous considering their "zero tolerance" press release in advance of the game!

crusier

zarquon wrote: »

There were numerous gardai in attendance already! I should not have to ring the station. They were paid double to do a simple job and did not do it. I will be issuing a formal complaint which will no doubt get ignored as the greater good of a big event to the city is far more important to these overpaid lazy public servants than the likes of me.

You probably prefer the whing than a solution!

zarquon

crusier wrote: »

You probably prefer the whing than a solution!

Victim blaming, how nice of you. I stated my problem and how i was affected and you classify this as whinging! I also stated i will be issuing formal complaints in order to seek a future solution, one which i fear will fall on deaf ears as usual.

Of course you and people like you can continue with your victim blaming nonsense. I suppose the local residents who get blocked into their own driveways are "whingers" too! :rolleyes:

Does that mean you would be a whinger too if you complained to the gardai if your car was illegally damaged during the event or does victim blaming not apply only in the circumstance that you are a victim!

Wompa1

crusier wrote: »

You probably prefer the whing than a solution!

My dad is a disabled driver. It's a common occurence for him to want to go somewhere only to pull up and find there was no parking by the door. So he would have to forget about it and go home.

If 'whinging' helps solve the problem. Everybody should whinge away.

zarquon

Wompa1 wrote: »

My dad is a disabled drive. It's a common occurence for him to want to go somewhere only to pull up and find there was no parking by the door. So he would have to forget about it and go home.

If 'whinging' helps solve the problem. Everybody should whinge away.

Crusier would define your dad as a whinger too. Don't you know its far more important that shoppers get parking as near as possible to the shops and GAA fans as near to the stadium as possible, disabled drivers can feck off as they are just whingers.

This city is an absolute disgrace when it comes to disabled parking abuse. The worst i experience are the spot at blackrock (usually abled bodied swimmers), Eyre street (the absolute worst imo), dunnes knocknacarra and middle street. It was no surprise that the abuse of disabled parking would be exacerbated on a big match day.

Perhaps some day a vigilante will start keying cars involved in such disregard and then we can start accusing such car owners as whingers when they report the illegal damage to their cars. - Or maybe just maybe, Galwegians can learn to be civilised considerate motorists - Nah, that's probably asking too much.

Dan_Solo

zarquon wrote: »

Perhaps some day a vigilante will start keying cars involved in such disregard and then we can start accusing such car owners as whingers when they report the illegal damage to their cars.

Wasn't Monroe Lively Motor whinging about his car getting keyed earlier on? He should really MTFU. What a moaner!

mercuroman

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Wasn't Monroe Lively Motor whinging about his car getting keyed earlier on? He should really MTFU. What a moaner!

Whats that about? That's some attitude to have - you're here lamenting the fact that people parked illegally but delight in the fact that someone was the victim of criminal damage? IMO an asinine post like that does little to further any argument you put forward and does nothing to help turn peoples opinion. If you want to show people that something is wrong and we should do something to right it you are doing absolutely nothing to help your, or anyone you agree with's, case.

zarquon

mercuroman wrote: »

Whats that about? That's some attitude to have - you're here lamenting the fact that people parked illegally but delight in the fact that someone was the victim of criminal damage? IMO an asinine post like that does little to further any argument you put forward and does nothing to help turn peoples opinion. If you want to show people that something is wrong and we should do something to right it you are doing absolutely nothing to help your, or anyone you agree with's, case.

Completely agree, criminal damage is just as bad as illegal parking, breaking the law is wrong no matter what it is. I think the point he is trying to make though is that those that break the law for their own convenience accuse the naysayers and victims of whinging and hypocritically some of the same people then change their tune when they are inconvenienced by other law breakers. They want to have their cake and eat it too i.e. have the gardai turn a blind eye when they break the law and then cry foul when the gardai don't do enough when they become a victim themselves

it's easy for the out of towners to not give a damn about illegal parking as it's something that will rarely if ever affect them, especially if from a rural area. The chances of vehicular damage is much higher though and is of concern to such people. For example parking on the very narrow taylors hill could mean someone clipping the car or at least a mirror. I can imagine the outrage of someone coming back from the game to find such damage to their car even if its accidental.

Dan_Solo

mercuroman wrote: »

Whats that about? That's some attitude to have - you're here lamenting the fact that people parked illegally but delight in the fact that someone was the victim of criminal damage? IMO an asinine post like that does little to further any argument you put forward and does nothing to help turn peoples opinion. If you want to show people that something is wrong and we should do something to right it you are doing absolutely nothing to help your, or anyone you agree with's, case.

He admitted to parking illegally. He got keyed. He whinges about it.
Seems to have worked out just fine as far as I can see.

mercuroman

zarquon wrote: »

it's easy for the out of towners to not give a damn about illegal parking as it's something that will rarely if ever affect them, especially if from a rural area. The chances of vehicular damage is much higher though and is of concern to such people. For example parking on the very narrow taylors hill could mean someone clipping the car or at least a mirror. I can imagine the outrage of someone coming back from the game to find such damage to their car even if its accidental.

I've tried to write a response to this a few times but I just can't express properly my amazement at this. I really don't know how you can think like that - you don't see how that makes you exactly the same as the people you're giving out about! It's a Me Fein attitude because its how it affected you - the same as what they did is completely about what they wanted.

zarquon

mercuroman wrote: »

I've tried to write a response to this a few times but I just can't express properly my amazement at this. I really don't know how you can think like that - you don't see how that makes you exactly the same as the people you're giving out about! It's a Me Fein attitude because its how it affected you - the same as what they did is completely about what they wanted.

I'm sorry i'm completely lost! I don't wish ill on anyone, i already said illegal activity of any kind is wrong. I used a hypothetical scenario where illegally parking a car on taylor's hill could incur accidental damage to the car by clipping as it's very narrow - i've had my car clipped whilst legally parked once on a narrow city street so i know its very possible.

You may need to re-read my posts properly as you seem to be very confused about what i'm actually saying! Either that or you have quoted the wrong person (do you mean to respond to Dan Solo?)

pmasterson95

zarquon wrote: »

Crusier would define your dad as a whinger too. Don't you know its far more important that shoppers get parking as near as possible to the shops and GAA fans as near to the stadium as possible, disabled drivers can feck off as they are just whingers.

This city is an absolute disgrace when it comes to disabled parking abuse. The worst i experience are the spot at blackrock (usually abled bodied swimmers), Eyre street (the absolute worst imo), dunnes knocknacarra and middle street. It was no surprise that the abuse of disabled parking would be exacerbated on a big match day.

Perhaps some day a vigilante will start keying cars involved in such disregard and then we can start accusing such car owners as whingers when they report the illegal damage to their cars. - Or maybe just maybe, Galwegians can learn to be civilised considerate motorists - Nah, that's probably asking too much.

Why dont you or the others who liked your post become this vigalante. The Gardai arent able to meet your essential needs. Why dont one of you lot take up the "Keyman" identity. You can be like the real life Batman. Irradicating the city of illegal parkers one keyed car at a time. You want and ask for a hero, why not be the hero the city desperately needs?


But no you merely hope that someone else will step forward and become Keyman. You can be the hero this city deserves maybe if you leave Boards and pick up that set of keys you could save the city.

zarquon

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Why dont you or the others who liked your post become this vigalante. The Gardai arent able to meet your essential needs. Why dont one of you lot take up the "Keyman" identity. You can be like the real life Batman. Irradicating the city of illegal parkers one keyed car at a time. You want and ask for a hero, why not be the hero the city desperately needs?


But no you merely hope that someone else will step forward and become Keyman. You can be the hero this city deserves maybe if you leave Boards and pick up that set of keys you could save the city.

I certainly hope that no one engages in such activity. I was being hypothetically facetious using hyperbole to demonstrate a point and did so because i recalled of one overly vocal illegal parker in this thread who had his car keyed in the past due to the same activity and complained, rightly so!(for the record, i completely disagree with the criminal damage). The point was that when the law is broken and someone is a victim due to it they are classed as whingers by classless victim blamers who are more than likely culprits of illegal parking on Sunday and use victim blaming to deflect responsibility for their own actions. Some of these victim blamers could and have been victims themselves in the past whereupon one could construe by their own classifications that they were whingers too.

There's a lot of hypocracy flying around and i would love a city in which we would all be civil and considerate to one another but there is a lot of selfishness floating around with motorists and when karma bites the selfish people should realise how others feel.

Events like the match on Sunday bring out the worst kind of selfishness in some people, and certainly a significant percentage of matchgoers who have no qualms about inconveniencing others for their own convenience.

What goes around comes around, gloat with glee when the gardai overlook your indiscretion but don't cry when the gardai overlook an indiscretion against you!

Iwannahurl

crusier wrote: »

I'm not into reading paragraphs of ****e.

You're expert at writing it though.

Your comments about Garda resources being a prime example. It's perfectly clear that it's not a resource issue with AGS, but a lack of professionalism and decent management. On the motorists' part it's pure laziness and selfishness, reinforced time and time again by Garda indifference and inaction.

It's remarkable that taxes are being used to pay Gardai double their wages to watch a football match on a sunny Sunday. Complaints are made about scarce resources, yet there were numerous Gardai inside the stadium doing no more than standing around enjoying the game. There were at least four Garda vehicles in and around the stadium. There was a Traffic Corps car parked inside for the duration.

There was even an Emergency Response Unit vehicle outside, ffs. What were they doing there? Defending against possible ISIL attack? Guarding against infiltration of the GAA by the Continuity IRA?

crusier

Iwannahurl wrote: »

You're expert at writing it though.

Your comments about Garda resources being a prime example. It's perfectly clear that it's not a resource issue with AGS, but a lack of professionalism and decent management. On the motorists' part it's pure laziness and selfishness, reinforced time and time again by Garda indifference and inaction.

It's remarkable that taxes are being used to pay Gardai double their wages to watch a football match on a sunny Sunday. Complaints are made about scarce resources, yet there were numerous Gardai inside the stadium doing no more than standing around enjoying the game. There were at least four Garda vehicles in and around the stadium. There was a Traffic Corps car parked inside for the duration.

There was even an Emergency Response Unit vehicle outside, ffs. What were they doing there? Defending against possible ISIL attack? Guarding against infiltration of the GAA by the Continuity IRA?

What an anti climax, I was expecting better than that!

Dan_Solo

Dan_Solo wrote: »

He admitted to parking illegally. He got keyed. He whinges about it.
Seems to have worked out just fine as far as I can see.

I may technically have been parked illegally (due to the inadequate level of parking provided) when it happened but it was parking that would effect nobody. It was a footpath almost wide enough for two cars to park side by side so anybody walking, wheeling a pram or in a wheelchair could pass however as it was in the middle the night it happened I doubt it was anyone in any way effected just some scumbag who decided they would act like a vile criminal and key not only my car but two other cars belonging to friends of mine parked in line with mine and none causing the slightest obstruction.

The person is very lucky though as there were a number of groups of us returning from our night out to a friends house which we were parked outside and it happened between two groups, if they were caught...........

Wompa1

Conor Warm Hazel wrote: »

I may technically have been parked illegally (due to the inadequate level of parking provided) when it happened but it was parking that would effect nobody. It was a footpath almost wide enough for two cars to park side by side so anybody walking, wheeling a pram or in a wheelchair could pass however as it was in the middle the night it happened I doubt it was anyone in any way effected just some scumbag who decided they would act like a vile criminal and key not only my car but two other cars belonging to friends of mine parked in line with mine and none causing the slightest obstruction.

The person is very lucky though as there were a number of groups of us returning from our night out to a friends house which we were parked outside and it happened between two groups, if they were caught...........

You started so well. I was thinking, at least he's admitting his wrong doing but then it all came un-done with making excuses for your behavior and why it's more acceptable than keying a car. One may be more 'vile' than the other but it doesn't make what you did any less wrong. There's no valid excuse for parking illegally outside of an absolute emergency.

Delicia

Oh My God - the lack of tolerance on this thread is unbelievable. On all sides. Do I expect to be able to drive around town on Sun 14/6/15 the same as every other Sunday? No, I don't. Do I think they're all Mayo drivers? No, Galway's a big county. Are they all going to park correctly? Possibly not. Am I going to go around & key those cars that are not, in my opinion, parked as they should? No, because the minute I do that I commit a vicious, cruel, decided act that cannot be justified. If you have a problem with a car, bike, pedestrian - report it

Wompa1

Delicia wrote: »

Oh My God - the lack of tolerance on this thread is unbelievable. On all sides. Do I expect to be able to drive around town on Sun 14/6/15 the same as every other Sunday? No, I don't. Do I think they're all Mayo drivers? No, Galway's a big county. Are they all going to park correctly? Possibly not. Am I going to go around & key those cars that are not, in my opinion, parked as they should? No, because the minute I do that I commit a vicious, cruel, decided act that cannot be justified. If you have a problem with a car, bike, pedestrian - report it

I think the discussion was around the lack of enforcement and one poster wanted to report but couldn't...

crusier

Wompa1 wrote: »

I think the discussion was around the lack of enforcement and one poster wanted to report but couldn't...

They could if they really wanted to but they didnt !

Dan_Solo

Conor Warm Hazel wrote: »

I may technically have been parked illegally (due to the inadequate level of parking provided)

Yer honour, it was only technically illegal that I robbed that bank, due to the inadequate level of money provided to me.

Conor Warm Hazel wrote: »

The person is very lucky though as there were a number of groups of us returning from our night out to a friends house which we were parked outside and it happened between two groups, if they were caught...........

Yeah, but they weren't. Nobody would even need to break stride to key your car. Even if you were looking out the window at them you mightn't notice. Not going to happen.

Dan_Solo

Delicia wrote: »

Am I going to go around & key those cars that are not, in my opinion, parked as they should?

And here it is again. Apparently it's "an opinion" whether a car so far up a footpath that it can't be used is "parked as they should". Maybe it's "an opinion" that keying your car is grand too?

Delicia wrote: »

No, because the minute I do that I commit a vicious, cruel, decided act that cannot be justified.

Vicious and cruel? ISIS should start keying cars instead of beheadings if they want some real media attention!
It's paint on a car. It is impossible to be "vicious" or "cruel" to it. Paint. Not flesh. Paint.

zarquon

crusier wrote: »

They could if they really wanted to but they didnt !

I did but only after the fact due to an inability to access the traffic corp gardai at the stadium who should have been stationed outside and it was to a garda at at the threadneedle/dr mannix junction which was the nearest garda that i could see. I know it was not acted on because when i circled around again later the same cars were still in the same disabled spots and there was no garda directly outside the stadium. I'm sure he had the capability to radio back to the stadium for someone to take a look outside so i can only assume that either he didn't bother or the gardai at the stadium couldn't bother their arse with the hassle that would entail actually doing their jobs. Hence i will be submitting formal complaints about the issue to the relevant bodies, but i feel they will be completely ignored.

But of course how dare i whinge about expecting overpaid gardai to do their jobs and how dare i whinge about able bodied people taken up disabled spots and causing disabled people great distress in accessing the game. For shame on me and my whinging. I should have done like the rest of the victim blamers in this thread and show similar contempt for others by just blocking someones gate or drive on rockbarton and if the residents had a problem with me doing so i could just let them know that they are whingers.

Honestly the atitudes of some in society fails me sometimes and it upsets me reading the general contempt and lack of consideration that some have in this thread. The same type of sh1tty atitude that i read about just today:

http://www.thejournal.ie/joanne-o-riordan-train-abuse-wheelchair-2165964-Jun2015/

Delicia wrote: »

Oh My God - the lack of tolerance on this thread is unbelievable. On all sides.

Under no circumstances will i ever tolerate anyone parking illegally in a disabled zone, it's scumbag motoring behaviour of the highest order and the only people who think it's okay or that we should turn a blind eye to such behaviour are the type of individual who engage in such scummy behaviour. Please let me know where you live so that i can park my car in front of your drive and put a note on my car reminding you to be more tolerant of me - i'm pretty sure in such a circumstance you would ignore the request and exhibit the same intolerance you chastise others for. Essentially telling people to tolerate behaviour that affects you in no way is a fallacy and ridiculous to say the least. Only in the circumstance that you would tolerate behaviour that negatively affects you would this not be seen as hypocritical.

Delicia

Dan_Solo wrote: »

And here it is again. Apparently it's "an opinion" whether a car so far up a footpath that it can't be used is "parked as they should". Maybe it's "an opinion" that keying your car is grand too?Vicious and cruel? ISIS should start keying cars instead of beheadings if they want some real media attention!
It's paint on a car. It is impossible to be "vicious" or "cruel" to it. Paint. Not flesh. Paint.

Get. A. Grip. Is it vicious & cruel to do damage to somebody (or their belongings, family, house, car, career, reputation, etc...) on purpose, with decision & intent? Yes, it is. I've now read this thread & associated it with child abuse (by the word 'vile') & ISIS. Seriously??

Dan_Solo

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Yer honour, it was only technically illegal that I robbed that bank, due to the inadequate level of money provided to me.

Well as cars park there day and night and are never ticketed by wardens or Gardai I would be fairly confident that parking is being allowed due to the width of the path and lack of other parking availability.

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Yeah, but they weren't. Nobody would even need to break stride to key your car. Even if you were looking out the window at them you mightn't notice. Not going to happen.

We could easily have rounded the corner and caught the person in the act,the cars could be seen from a long way off and the only escape route (other than back towards the direction we were coming from) would have them visible for a long way due to the road being long and straight so catching up wouldn't be difficult.

Delicia wrote: »

Get. A. Grip. Is it vicious & cruel to do damage to somebody (or their belongings, family, house, car, career, reputation, etc...) on purpose, with decision & intent? Yes, it is. I've now read this thread & associated it with child abuse (by the word 'vile') & ISIS. Seriously??

People have no respect for their cars that's the problem, I take an attack on my car as a personal attack on me as I am a car enthusiast and like to keep my car in immaculate condition.

crusier

zarquon wrote: »

I did but only after the fact due to an inability to access the traffic corp gardai at the stadium who should have been stationed outside and it was to a garda at at the threadneedle/dr mannix junction which was the nearest garda that i could see. I know it was not acted on because when i circled around again later the same cars were still in the same disabled spots and there was no garda directly outside the stadium. I'm sure he had the capability to radio back to the stadium for someone to take a look outside so i can only assume that either he didn't bother or the gardai at the stadium couldn't bother their arse with the hassle that would entail actually doing their jobs. Hence i will be submitting formal complaints about the issue to the relevant bodies, but i feel they will be completely ignored.

But of course how dare i whinge about expecting overpaid gardai to do their jobs and how dare i whinge about able bodied people taken up disabled spots and causing disabled people great distress in accessing the game. For shame on me and my whinging. I should have done like the rest of the victim blamers in this thread and show similar contempt for others by just blocking someones gate or drive on rockbarton and if the residents had a problem with me doing so i could just let them know that they are whingers.

Honestly the atitudes of some in society fails me sometimes and it upsets me reading the general contempt and lack of consideration that some have in this thread. The same type of sh1tty atitude that i read about just today:

http://www.thejournal.ie/joanne-o-riordan-train-abuse-wheelchair-2165964-Jun2015/



Under no circumstances will i ever tolerate anyone parking illegally in a disabled zone, it's scumbag motoring behaviour of the highest order and the only people who think it's okay or that we should turn a blind eye to such behaviour are the type of individual who engage in such scummy behaviour. Please let me know where you live so that i can park my car in front of your drive and put a note on my car reminding you to be more tolerant of me - i'm pretty sure in such a circumstance you would ignore the request and exhibit the same intolerance you chastise others for. Essentially telling people to tolerate behaviour that affects you in no way is a fallacy and ridiculous to say the least. Only in the circumstance that you would tolerate behaviour that negatively affects you would this not be seen as hypocritical.

Well, now we know not all gardai were watching the match and you now admit you did report it, how do you know that a ticket was not issued after your report, you seem more interested in running down public servants working on a Sunday and playing the victim. I would normally have some sympathy but not for you and you derogatory attitude!

zarquon

crusier wrote: »

Well, now we know not all gardai were watching the match and you now admit you did report it, how do you know that a ticket was not issued after your report, you seem more interested in running down public servants working on a Sunday and playing the victim. I would normally have some sympathy but not for you and you derogatory attitude!

I already said some were managing traffic flows on approach to and from the stadium but not at the stadium itself. I also said i could not report at the time, not without illegally parking and then paying to go into the stadium so i could only do it after looking for a space in salthill and then circling around again. No gardai were enforcing the parking laws though, certainly that i could see. I also could not see if the disabled parking scummers got a ticket, but a ticket on their car is no good to me when i can't get close parking to the stadium, that's the whole point of the allocated spots.

I'm not surprised you have no sympathy for a disabled driver who complains about illegal disabled parking usage, it sounds like you are someone who would do the same if you knew you could get away with it. How dare i play the victim with my disability. I should just suck it up and limp myself with walking aids a couple of kilometers to pearse, would that appease you. I hope so because that's exactly what happened unfortunately and then i have people like you talk down to me and accuse me of playing the victim for complaining about what happened. Give me break!!!!!! God forbid you find yourself with a debilitating terminal illness someday, be sure to follow your own advice and not play the victim when you can't get disabled parking due to abled bodied scumbags breaking the law whom i'm told i should be more tolerant of.