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The Windy Road to Nowhere

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Thursday 14 January: 10.1 miles at 6:52 avg pace

    This doesn't on paper look like a particularly amazing session, but I was very pleased with it. The first couple of miles, as ever easily fast going downhill, so no real work to be done. I was very happy with the mid section of the run though, over the Gallstown road, steady climb and into a freezing cold breeze. Kept running 6:4x mile splits, working hard but not flat out. Easy slower mile to finish, at which time it was snowing and nearly dark.

    Things going pretty well so far. Legs felt a bit achy for a few days, but they seem to have caught up on me now. So far so good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Thursday 14 January: 10.1 miles at 6:52 avg pace

    This doesn't on paper look like a particularly amazing session, but I was very pleased with it. The first couple of miles, as ever easily fast going downhill, so no real work to be done. I was very happy with the mid section of the run though, over the Gallstown road, steady climb and into a freezing cold breeze. Kept running 6:4x mile splits, working hard but not flat out. Easy slower mile to finish, at which time it was snowing and nearly dark.

    Things going pretty well so far. Legs felt a bit achy for a few days, but they seem to have caught up on me now. So far so good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sat 16th Jan: 17.7 miles at 6:56 pace

    Didn't think I'd be doing a long run today, but got a window of 2 hours at 3 and headed off. Fast first 5 miles down to Termonfeckin, then kept the work rate up as I was feeling good. Best run in a while I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sun 17 Jan: 7.35 miles at 7:22 avg pace

    I was up in Blanchardstown with our eldest for a birthday party, and had a bit of time to kill. I considered heading down for the Phoenix Park, but decided I could end up wasting too much time parking, etc. Quick look at maps and thought I'd chance running a loop on back roads to Leixlip. Headed out towards Clonee, but when I turned off onto the Leixlip road, realised I'd be putting my life in the hands of lorry drivers on a narrow road so turned back to the safety of the footpaths. Took a loop back through Clonsilla. Bonus to get any running today with sick children, horse riding, bday party, etc. Decent enough week overall.

    I'm at a bit of a crossroads in terms of what I should be doing in training. If this was marathon training, I'd be thinking about putting in the odd session, but I don't think that would benefit me for a 39.3 mile race. Then again, I don't really have a clue. Anyone got any wise words for me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    You should plan on a couple of back to back long runs, personally found these very useful

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    You should plan on a couple of back to back long runs, personally found these very useful

    TbL

    Cheers. Yeah, I'm trying to build myself up to that. Would you go 18-18, 18-20, hardly 2 20 milers? How many of those type of weekends could you do without taking too much of a battering?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Cheers. Yeah, I'm trying to build myself up to that. Would you go 18-18, 18-20, hardly 2 20 milers? How many of those type of weekends could you do without taking too much of a battering?

    Build them up slow, 18/20 should have you in good stead but not much difference between 18/20 & 20/20. I did longer back to backs but I was chasing something different different back then.

    Might be worth considering throwing in the odd marathon (plenty of cheap ones on between MCI & EOI) followed or preceded by a good long run.

    Disclaimer: no expert, just my personal experience

    TbL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Tuesday 19th and Wednesday 20th Jan: 4 and 5 miles in 30 and 38 minutes

    Easy progressive running on the treadmill. Yesterday was the first day it's been running smoothly this winter. Other days, it takes the odd hissy fit and abruptly slows itself down, which is a bit of a nuisance. It's been at this every winter this past 3 years. Must be man flu or something.

    Thursday 21st Jan: 10 miles at 6:50 average pace

    Same route as last week, but didn't get out the door until 4:20 so I was chasing the fading light. A couple of miles in the 6:2x range, and good hard running over a hilly route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sun 24 Jan: 20 miles at 7:20 pace

    I thought I'd get in a few miles yesterday but it never happened. I'd my alarm set for 6:50 this morning to get out early but I was just too tired to face it so opted instead for the afternoon. A balmy enough sort of day for the time of year, but very windy in places too.

    I did this one on total empty again, and apart from zonking a bit after 18 miles, climbing a very steep hill, I felt good. Hopefully next weekend I'll try for two long runs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Tuesday 26 Jan: 4 miles in 31 minutes

    I was going to make a return to running before school this morning but when I got up at 7, the wind was absolutely howling around the house, so I decided instead on the treadmill. It's definitely having some sort of midlife crisis, was reluctant to do any sort of pace, then it got it together in the end. Worthless enough sort of a run, but I probably need to shed a few pounds, so every run counts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Weds 27 Jan: 4 miles in 30 minutes

    Treadmill in evening.

    Thurs 28 Jan: 12.8 miles at 7:15 avg pace

    Hell of an evening for running. It was relatively calm for the first half of the run, but it turned really miserable on the way home, rain and strong winds. Hadn't ran this route around Grangebellew and Dunleer in a long time, but little to enjoy about it given the conditions. Good to get a longer midweek run all the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Fri 29 Jan: 17.5 miles at 7:29 avg pace

    The rest of the family happened to be away for a few hours this evening so an unexpected opportunity arose to get in a long run for the weekend. Got out of school quick smart and was on the road by 3:20.. Legs felt a bit heavy after yesterday and had a bit of discomfort in my hip for the first few miles (need to keep an eye on that).. However, the wind was on my back, so the first few miles down through Termonfeckin and into Clogherhead were snappy enough, around 6:50-7:15 pace .

    I was running into the wind from there on in. A friend from the area slowed down his school bus to offer me a bottle of water and a bit of encouragement. The wind got stronger and stronger as I continued towards home, and I'd to dig in a bit. Pace fell off for the last two miles, I just felt battered by the conditions and the hills.

    Anyway, great start to the weekend. The first back to back long runs done. I know they're probably slightly on the short side, but I'll increase them the next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sun 31 Jan: 2 disastrous treadmill miles

    Horror show, I think it's about to pack it in..

    Mon 1st Feb: 7.7 miles at 6:52 avg pace

    Storm Frank was unleashing serious stuff for the duration of this run. I'd the benefit of it on my back on the way down the hill, running the first 5k in under 19 minutes without pushing at all. But, the return up the hill into the wind was without doubt one of the toughest couple of miles I ever ran. Damn near got blown off the road, but made it back safely with no trees falling on me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Thurs 3rd Feb: 4 miles in 30:30

    Easy run on the treadmill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Fri 5th Feb: 7.6 miles at 6:45 pace

    Fairly lively run around Sandpit. Was heading for a wedding so this was at the unusual time of 10:30 on a Friday morning. Felt good

    Sunday 6th: 6k Rás na hÉireann in 22:12

    First race since November, and was looking for a bit of redemption, having fallen dramatically down the pecking order in the club. Pace was fairly fast the first lap of four and there were a lot of people ahead of me I felt I should have been with. I decided that I would have to run what I felt was an appropriate pace for me, and stay patient. I steadily picked up places in the 3rd and 4th lap losing just one. Ran a very strong last lap and was happy with how it went.

    Monday 8th Feb: 4 easy on treadmill in 31 minutes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Tuesday 9th Feb: 7.55 miles at 6:58 avg pace

    Another cold and windy evening, another run down by Sandpit and Ballymakenny. Getting stronger on the hills


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Thursday 11th Feb: 7.6 miles at 7:11 pace

    Can't really remember that run, it was just a non eventful easy one.

    Sat 13th Feb: 10 miles in 77:30 (7:45 avg pace)
    Treadmill all the way on yesterday's mlr. Put the youngest in bed and ran until she woke up. Increased the pace every mile, starting at 12kmh, finishing at 13. Very low effort levels, was having the craic with the young fella most of the time, so the miles flew by.

    Sun 14th Feb: 20.25 miles at 7:18 avg pace

    It was cold and windy for large parts of this run, but I kept effort levels low for most of it. On the way back, I'd the breeze on my back, so pushed on a little bit, and worked harder on the uphill sections. Easiest long run in a very long time, felt great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Mon, Weds and Fri: 4 miles each in 31, 30 and 29 minutes

    Seemed to be chasing my tail a lot of the week, and just couldn't seem to get an opportunity to get out much, but not to worry.

    Sat 20Jan: 16 miles in 1:59

    Very relaxed easy running for most of this. The wind and running up the hill made the last three miles torturous, but happy enough. Hopefully a longer run tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    As you can probably guess I am far from an expert when it comes to ultra running but I would suggest you need to run some long runs at a slower pace, to get familiar with spending more time on your feet. All your long runs so far have been at race pace or faster, probably maxing out ar 2 1/2 hours. Maybe the odd 20/22 mile run at 8 minute plus pace to give you closer to 3 hours, or a low key marathon in 3.30-40. I could be wrong but those long runs with lots of time on your feet seem important to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Yeah, you're spot on there PConn. I'd tried to go as easy as possible today, and will try for even slower tomorrow. Race pace is 7:35 or so..

    I'm toying with the idea of the Tralee marathon or else just running 26.1 miles by myself some day in around 3:25.. East of Ireland marathon races don't suit unfortunately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sun 21 Feb: 17.5 miles at 7:52 avg pace

    A run of two halves this. Spent the first 8 miles to Termonfeckin and Clogherhead holding back, going as easy as the strong tail wind would allow. Passed 8 miles just over the hour. I knew I would have to pick up the effort levels running into the wind and back up the hills, but didn't want to blow a gasket either so let the pace drop back to 8+ min/miles for a couple of the more exposed and steeper hills.

    That was 33.5 miles of running inside of 24 hours, which I'm pretty happy with. I've got to admit the consistently strong winds on nearly every single one of my long runs is starting to become a bit of a pain. No doubt it's building up strength , but I'd just like to concentrate on distance as opposed to getting hammered by the wind on every run. Moan over, bad weather is a given training for a spring marathon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Tues 23rd Feb: 4 miles in 28:30

    Treadmill for this one. Progressive effort, increasing pace every 200m from 12-16kmph. Effort levels comfortable. Also engaged in a good 20 minutes of hard core tag with the family. I fear my 4 year old is going to destroy me for speed by the time he's 7. The handicap sprint race was telling!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Thursday 25 Feb: 4 miles in 30:30

    Friday 26 Feb: 8 in 58:30 and 5 in 38

    All on the treadmill. Mrs Tpp away for a couple of days, so any running today or tomorrow confined to indoors. Nothing exciting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sat 27 Feb: 10 miles in 68 and 4 in 30:30

    Both of these were on the treadmill. The first one was obviously a harder effort, pyramid type effort. 12-16 and back to 12. Intended on a longer second run than 4 miles, but wanted to watch a movie. Might get out on the road tomorrow evening, been far too dependent on the treadmill this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Mon 29 Feb: 4 miles in 30:20

    I was on the road up and down to Monaghan yesterday and was wrecked by the time I got home, couldn't face running.

    Just an easy progressive on treadmill this evening. Hammers a bit tight, but nothing to be concerned about


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Mon 29 Feb: 4 miles in 30:20

    I was on the road up and down to Monaghan yesterday and was wrecked by the time I got home, couldn't face running.

    Just an easy progressive on treadmill this evening. Hammers a bit tight, but nothing to be concerned about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Tues 1st March: 6 miles in 45 minutes

    Treadmill at 4 o clock. Hammers still tight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Tues 1st March: 6 miles in 45 minutes

    Treadmill at 4 o clock. Hammers still tight.

    Drop me a message if you want a rub on the hammies, free of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    pconn062 wrote: »
    Drop me a message if you want a rub on the hammies, free of course.

    Sorry for not replying PConn, didn't log on for a couple of days. Hammers sorted themselves out alright.

    Thurs: 4 miles in 30:30

    Bog standard run on treadmill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sat 5th March: 26.2 miles in 3:23 (7:42 pace)

    Out nice and early at 7:30, just had a small bowl of cereal and a glass of water. Took 2 gels with me just in case. Took it really easy the first 4 miles down to Grangebellew, about 8:00 pace. Was running into a pretty strong breeze, but kept it very relaxed. On over through Dunleer, before the first long steady climb out through Dromin and towards Ardee. Felt a bit of tightening in my chest near Ardee, but after a couple of minutes of focusing on breathing that went away. Turning onto the N2 in Ardee, I'd another long climb but had the benefit of the wind on my back, so was able to drop the pace into 7:20s with little extra effort. The family had come out to give me a few shouts of support whilst doing a few messages, so the next few miles through Collon and back towards home passed by quickly. I only really tired a bit after 25 miles where there is 180 feet elevation gain in the last mile. Hit the front door of the house with garmin at 25.95 miles, the kids and Mrs Tpp joined me for 4 laps around the house to bring up the distance.

    Felt very good on this run, the longest time on my feet since 2010 I think. Good days work before 11am


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sun 6th Mar: 5 miles in 39:45

    Easy recovery run on the treadmill. Legs a bit stiff after yesterday's workout, but pretty close to normal long run fatigue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Tues 8th Mar: 4 miles in 29 minutes

    Nice easy pace for the first 3 miles on treadmill and I then lost the run of myself and ran the last mile at about 10k pace. There's been an awful lot of restraint in running at easy pace this past while, bit of speed felt good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Weds 9th Mar: 4 miles in 30:30

    Easy pace, but felt a little lethargic. I donated blood yesterday evening, so I suppose red blood cells are slightly down today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Weds 9th Mar: 4 miles in 30:30

    Easy pace, but felt a little lethargic. I donated blood yesterday evening, so I suppose red blood cells are slightly down today.

    Very low mileage mid week A, are you hoping to increase this or are the weekend runs the main focus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    pconn062 wrote: »
    Very low mileage mid week A, are you hoping to increase this or are the weekend runs the main focus?

    Too low, I agree. Just busy life I suppose, I should really be doing a medium length run during the week, but tomorrow's out too with first confession. Ideally I'd prefer to be running 60 miles per week instead of scraping 45-50, but it is what it is. Weekend long back to back runs and one run of >25 miles were the main aims and I feel like I've achieved those.

    This weekend I might just do one long run, and hopefully next weekend 20-20 or 20-22 if I'm feeling good. With Easter holidays coming, I should put in a couple of good weeks before backing off by 31st March.

    I'd say my training is pretty crap or atypical at best for an ultra, but I'm still of the view that training and running comes behind other priorities so in the medium term, I'm not going to be reaching my potential at any distance. Hardly inspirational!

    Your body holding up lately? Up to racing or is it softly does it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sat 12th Mar: 20 miles in 2:21 (7:05 pace)

    This was supposed to be a nice relaxed run out along Donore and Newgrange. Was really enjoying it until I realised I was getting tight for time to make it back to Drogheda on time to pick one of the kids up from a birthday party. By this stage, I was out near Kentstown, with a goal of 10 miles in 65 minutes to get back to Drogheda 5 minutes late. Put the hammer down and ran damn hard, down in 6:20s and a couple under that. Out through Duleek and the horrendously polluting factories, I was starting to run out of steam, but kept working away.

    An unplanned MP segment, first in a long time, but really enjoyed the extra effort and pace. Most importantly, there was no effect in the legs from last weeks 26 miler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Better throw an update here, was planning a big couple of weeks there, but a couple of issues got in the way.

    Weds 15th Mar: 7.7 miles at 7:29 avg pace

    This was a nice comfortable run, before flying off to Essex for a short break.

    16 & 17 Mar: 4.1 miles at 6:45 and 7:19 pace

    Enjoyed a few pints over the couple of days, a friend of ours has two pubs in a little village in Essex, great food and company. Did a gym session and bit of swimming in the hotel, was feeling pretty pleased with my start to the Easter break.

    When I woke on Saturday morning, I was in absolute bits, stomach was in a hoop, I'd a temperature and had zero energy. I thought at first it was just a hangover, but the high temperature and the state I was in suggested food poisoning. A microwave cooked strange tasting breakfast roll bought from a petrol station at the side of a motorway was given the blame, and I spent the next few days recovering. I was initially a bit peeved losing out on planned heavy training, but accepted the advice of those around me that I was in no fit state to stress the body's defences.

    Thursday 24th: 9.4 miles at 7:29 pace

    I was finally feeling back to normal and chomping at the bit for a run. I suggested a medium length run of 16 miles, Mrs tpp thought 4 might be better in case I was still sick. Settled on 8 miles, and based on having to jump into a field for a toileting issue halfway around, probably a reasonable decision. Close to fully healthy, but not quite enough for longer run for another couple of days.

    I'd intended 20 miles on Saturday, but we'd a few family things on, and I really didn't want to be the black sheep arriving an hour late so put it on hold.

    Sunday 27th Mar: 20 miles at 7:33 pace

    Weather was fairly damn miserable up here on Sunday, very windy, with the odd blast of heavy rain. Decided on a route through Dunleer, Collon and Drogheda. First few miles were handy, downhill with the wind at my back. Turning into the wind in Dunleer, I'd to up the effort a bit and dropped the pace to 7:40s. The first rain shower was light enough, but it was only a short reprieve. Out onto the N2 in Collon, the rain was driving sideways in sheets, howling wind, freezing cold. My hands were nearly purple. Not much fun for those 20 minutes.

    Beautiful sunshine suddenly broke out around Tullyallen, and a I got a bit carried away with the pace, running a couple of 6:5x miles. Took a gel just to test the stomach out, no issues.

    Running back up the hill to home, pace dropped back to 8:00+, but I didn't bother forcing it. The weather was a major issue on that run, but I was happy to cover the distance in relative comfort.

    So, not quite the pre-taper fortnight I wanted, but sometimes life just goes like that. I feel like I'm in reasonable shape for a good ultra in Connemara. Looking forward to tackling it, hopefully the weather will play ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    The weather beat me today. 11 years running and my first DNF. Suppose it had to come sometime. I thought I'd be more annoyed when this day finally came, but the state I was in after I withdrew wasn't pretty. I genuinely feel like I could have ended up in hospital with hypothermia if I'd forced myself past Leenaun, and the ambulances were having a very busy time of it.

    I'll be back in Connemara for another crack at the ultra, I've been blessed with weather in races over the years. Couple of easy weeks now, and I'll move on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Ed Mc Groarty


    Sorry to hear that Tpp.
    At one point I also felt dangerously cold and contemplated flagging an ambulance down.
    It was a tough day for running.
    Nice to meet you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    I considered writing a race report for the Conn Ultra but might just go with bullet points of what went wrong, in order that I learn from it.
    1. I was cold from the get go - I should have kept my extra layer on for longer than the first mile.
    2. As I discussed with EdG mid race, I was quite aware that my body temperature was falling, even in the first hour. In hindsight, I could have picked up the pace for a couple of miles to get my body working a bit more.
    3. When the wind whipped my hat off, a fellow runner handed it back to me. I don't know why I didn't put it back on, I might have stayed warmer for longer.
    4 I needed to be in some sort of rain gear. I knew the forecast, but totally ignored it. Even my hi-viz vest would have been of help. Utterly naive.
    5. Training wasn't perfect, but it rarely is. Plenty of things I could have done differently there, but I don't feel like the length of the race was any issue. I will however, try a 50k in preparation for a future Conn Ultra.

    What have I taken from it? Aerobic condition is good after a decent bank of long runs. I got a bit bored with doing most of my training at slower pace, in any future ultra training, I'll vary the paces a bit more. The DNF is gnawing at me a bit, I won't know how well I can run ultras until I actually finish a race, so there's a question mark over a couple of races on my bucket list that needs answering.

    As a final thought, the slide in my race times over the last year and a half is finally pi$$ing me off. I haven't hit a target in 16 months. Life is like that sometimes, but I need to improve my attitude, and get more quality.

    I've entered a September marathon, before I go about thinking about targets, I'm going to get back to some faster running, a bit of racing and more focus and structure. I'd do well to have a look back over the first few months of this log.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sat 16th Apr: 6 miles in 40 minutes (6:41)

    I gave the legs a couple of days to get over Conn, no real fatigue, just decided to play safe. I was chomping at the bit by the time I got out, and after a handy start, decided to motor on. Ran 2 miles at MP, and 1 at 10k pace. It felt fantastic to be running hard.

    Sun 17 April: 4.25 miles in 27:50 (6:33)

    Again, more reckless abandon type running for sheer enjoyment.

    Tuesday 19 Apr: 7.6 miles in 52:40 (6:56)

    Down one of my favourite routes by Sandpit, wasn't particularly pushing it on the way down the hill, but put in a good effort on way home, where sub 7s are hard work. A bit of hill springing in 2 bursts of about 400m apiece were tough, a reminder of the total lack of speed work over the past few months.

    Thursday 21 April: 5 miles in 36-37 minutes.

    Started on the treadmill and headed out on the road for 4 miles.

    Friday: 30 minutes of sprinting playing games with the kids.
    as tough as any long run


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Sun 24th Apr: 4.2 miles in 28:20 (6:45)

    I was going to do a longer run this evening, but I decided to wash the two cars instead for some reason. Got out about 8:45 and despite hamstrings crying from working in the garden and running about with the kids, the legs were turning over nicely.

    I've taken my own advice, and looked back at my training from a couple of years ago, and have resolved to run a couple of faster miles on most runs, need to get my body used to 6:25-6:30 pace again. Did the middle two miles of this run at 6:25 each.

    Longer evenings are great, no reason not to be able to head out for 7-12 miles on school nights after 8 o clock, going to work on building up my mileage and pace for the next couple of months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Mon 25 Apr: 10.1 miles in 73 minutes (7:16)

    Out on the roads at 8pm, cold and windy, more like January as opposed to the last week of spring. Ah well, happy enough that it was bright and dry.

    Kept the pace handy enough, tried working harder on the hills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Weds 25 April: 4 miles in 30:30

    Easy run on treadmill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭ThePiedPiper


    Thursday 27 April: 4.1 miles in 28:25 (6:46)

    First interval type session in I don't know how long. Out on the road, half mile warmup, 0.5 mile repeats with 0.25 recoveries. Went way too fast on the first two 1/2 miles, and was near goosed on the last couple uphill. Given the hilly terrain, the splits mean nothing, but here they are:
    2:41, 2:42, 2:48, 3:00, 3:14


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭youngrun


    Thursday 27 April: 4.1 miles in 28:25 (6:46)

    First interval type session in I don't know how long. Out on the road, half mile warmup, 0.5 mile repeats with 0.25 recoveries. Went way too fast on the first two 1/2 miles, and was near goosed on the last couple uphill. Given the hilly terrain, the splits mean nothing, but here they are:
    2:41, 2:42, 2:48, 3:00, 3:14

    All your mileage is at a very good clip and better than you are racing , why do you think that is? Perhaps a bit more structure in your training eg tempo/reps/long run some with a club each week with a race every 6 weeks or so ? You look to have the potential for low to mid 2.40s marathon and maybe get a couple of ten k s in and wit a bit of a planet you can definitely run 35 min in next 6 months.


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    youngrun wrote: »
    All your mileage is at a very good clip and better than you are racing , why do you think that is? Perhaps a bit more structure in your training eg tempo/reps/long run some with a club each week with a race every 6 weeks or so ? You look to have the potential for low to mid 2.40s marathon and maybe get a couple of ten k s in and wit a bit of a planet you can definitely run 35 min in next 6 months.

    Cheers for the feedback youngrun. You're about right with absolutely everything there (the low 2:40s aside maybe). I've not been racing nearly enough, or for that matter, doing any really hard sessions in training. Structure has been poor due to family issues mostly, kids are 6, 5 and 1, and I don't prioritise running much.

    However, the training that took me to 36:xx 10k and 2:49 marathon is doable again, and I'm feeling sufficiently motivated to do what's required to shake off the recent slump. More races and alternating weekly tempo/interval sessions are a must, and definitely part of the plan for the summer. I'm not sure whether that'll take me below 2:48 for the marathon, but I hope to give it a try.


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    Sat 30th Apr: 10 miles in 1:12 (7:12)

    Got a window of an hour and a half with the youngest in bed, so headed on a tough enough route, into Drogheda and home by the Hill of Rath. Kept the pace nice and steady up the hills. First sign of a bit of decent weather hopefully.


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    Sun 1st May: 3.1 miles in 21:40 (6:59)

    Was up at stupid o'clock with the kid, teething like mad, so was sort of zonked all day, just headed out at 9 for a quick one down by the Popes Cross. 1 mile at MP

    Mon 2nd May: 8 miles in 55:30 (6:56)

    Ran home from Drogheda via Tullyallen. Winds were gusting strong enough in places, and it was quite hilly. Hammered it on hard enough, 2 miles at MP


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    Tues 3 May: 4 miles in 31:30 (7:52)

    Extra day off school, but our two oldest had scho and were up early so I headed off on this one bright and early. Legs were tired, so took it very easy.

    Wednesday 4 May: 4 miles in 30:30 treadmill

    Thursday 5 May: 3.1 miles in 23 (7:26)

    Uninspiring slow run just to stretch the legs

    Saturday: 4.2 miles in 30:15 (7:12)

    Unintentionally ran a 6:43 and 6:56 in the middle of this. Lovely evening for it


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