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Ulster Bank League 2013-2014 talk/gossip/rumours
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Anymore word on what's going to happen to Young Munster?0 -
Havent heard much except someone put query in relation to incident to Munster Branch who ran a mile from it as its an IRFU decision.CatFromHue wrote: »Anymore word on what's going to happen to Young Munster?
The club side won 28-3 tonight against Scotland.0 -
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Ha I can see why the Munster Branch would all right.0 -
CatFromHue wrote: »Ha I can see why the Munster Branch would all right.
Why should/would the Munster branch be involved? It's a national league ran under the IRFU banner.0 -
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Full round of AIL this weekend.
Il start preview of weekend with Division 2B where game of the weekend is in Limerick where leaders Nenagh Ormond travel into Liam Fitzgerald Park to take on third placed Thomond. Regardless of the result on Saturday the visitors will still be in first position Saturday evening however a win could leave the Tipperary club ten points clear of their hosts with four rounds to go(three of which are at home for the leaders albeit with two against sides currently in second and fourth) and would give Ormond a small bit of lee way with regard to their final four games and gaining the promotion they have been aiming for this season. However a win for the Royal Blues could totally open up the race for promotion with second placed Greystones hosting eleventh placed Ards and the Wicklow side will be expected to gain the maximum as they keep up the pressure on the leaders.
Fourth placed Armagh will be hopeful of the leaders downing Thomond as they keep up their push for a promotion/playoff spot and the Northeners should comfortably get the win against winless Suttonians.
At the other end of the table the big game of the day see's Sligo, currently in the very precarious 14th position, host 10th placed Richmond. Sligo are deep in the battle to avoid the relegation playoff spot with second place in the junior league round robin while Richmond, currently 5 points above that spot, don't want a loss that may drag them totally back into that scrap to avoid 15th position.
In the third tier the leaders should have little trouble seeing off the challenge of a struggling Naas side stuck in the midst of a battle to avoid the second automatic relegation spot and the playoff spot that see's six sides, from 15th placed Old Crescent to 10th placed Bective Rangers, with only 4 points in the league standings between them. 11th placed Seapoint have a tricky tie against the seemingly doomed Bruff side, 8 points adrift of their Limerick rivals the place above them, but should get the 4 points that will make them safe for another year in division 2A. 13th placed Highfield host Banbridge who currently are one place above their opponents on Saturday in the standings and the visitors may struggle in Bishopstown as they make the long trek down from county Down.
Not much more can be said about Terenures season. 11 games played 11 victories. Cant get much better than that. The leaders host 5th placed Belfast Harlequins this weekend and by Saturday evening should, unless there's a big upset, be 12 from 12. Connachts leading lights, Corinthians and Buccaneers are head of the rest in 1B and both should pick up maximum points as they face 2 sides at the wrong end of the table in Blackrock, Dublin University.
In the top flight three city derbies kick the action off on Friday night when leaders Clontard travel to Belfield to take on the students of UCD, St Marys travel to the Aviva to play Lansdowne and Temple Hill see's the second Cork Derby of the season when Dolphin travel the short distance from Musgrave Park to take on Cork Constitution.
Weekend fixtures:
Div 1A
Fri 14th
Cork Con (4th) v Dolphin (8th)
Lansdowne (3rd) v St Marys (7th)
UCD (6th) v Clontarf (1st)
Sat 15th
Ballynahinch (9th) v Old Belvedere (2nd)
Young Munster (5th) v Garryowen (10th)
then 1 week off until full round of games on march 1st
Div 1B
Sat 15th
Buccaneers (3rd) v Dublin Un (8th)
Corinthians (2nd) v Blackrock (9th)
Dungannon (10th) v Shannon (6th)
Terenure (1st) v Belfast Harlequins (5th)
UL Bohs (4th) v Malone (7th)
Blackrock v Shannon refixed for 22nd then full round games March 1st
Div 2A
Sat 15th
Ballymena (5th) v Bective Rangers (10th)
Cashel (7th) v NUIM Barnhall (2nd)
Galwegians (1st) v Naas (14th)
Highfield (13th) v Banbridge (12th)
Old Wesley (9th) v City of Derry (4th)
Queens Uni (3rd) v Rainey OB (8th)
Seapoint (11th) v Bruff (16th)
UCC (6th) v Old Crescent (15th)
Sat 22nd
Bruff v Banbridge
Old Wesley v Rainey OB
no games until 1 game on 28th Feb with the rest on March 1st
Div 2B
Fri 14th
Navan (6th) v DLSP (9th)
Sat 15th
Armagh (4th) v Suttonians (16th)
Boyne (13th) v Midleton (12th)
Greystones (2nd) v Ards (11th)
Instonians (15th) v Tullamore (7th)
Skerries (5th) v Sundays Well (8th)
Sligo (14th) v Richmond (10th)
Thomond (3rd) v Nenagh (1st)
Sat 22nd
Instonians v DLSP
Richmond v Tullamore
Next full round games march 1st0 -
CatFromHue wrote: »Anymore word on what's going to happen to Young Munster?
There was supposed to be a decision last night at a meeting in Dublin.0 -
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They were meant to be playing an AIL game against Dolphin in Dolphin a couple of weeks ago but on the bus journey down the bus driver is said to have said that it was too dangerous to continue and turned back so the fixture was never fulfilled.0 -
Had game in Cork. They Said driver of bus refused to drive on citing bad road conditions and therefore they couldn't play game. Seems to have been a bit of shenanigans going on. Game wasn't playedStainalert wrote: »What are young munster supposed to have done?
Up in front of IRFU to try sort out things. Can imagine Dolphin get the points and Cookies get an earful for trying to pull a fast one0 -
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The Lost Sheep wrote: »Had game in Cork. They Said driver of bus refused to drive on citing bad road conditions and therefore they couldn't play game. Seems to have been a bit of shenanigans going on. Game wasn't played
Up in front of IRFU to try sort out things. Can imagine Dolphin get the points and Cookies get an earful for trying to pull a fast one
Cookies hearing did not go ahead with Irfu on Wednesday . By all accounts it has been rescheduled for Monday next . whispers are that it will be just a fine which is a surprise0 -
Marys Lansdowne postponed this evening?0
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The Lost Sheep wrote: »Yes its off. Stadium company worried about panels being blown off Aviva so its safety concerns. Pitch as its all weather is playable
The game was due to be played on the main pitch at the Aviva however as you said they couldn't even move it to the all weather pitch.
Other games at risk of being postponed too. Keep a look out before you travel to a game tonight.0 -
Have to fancy G'owen this weekend to get a win. YM missing there Tongan centre apparently and Ger Slattery been drafted to bench for Munster again. Big chance for Garryowen to get a another win!0
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IngazZagni wrote: »The game was due to be played on the main pitch at the Aviva however as you said they couldn't even move it to the all weather pitch.
Other games at risk of being postponed too. Keep a look out before you travel to a game tonight.
But yet there was a J3 game played on the back pitch on Wed evening in worse conditions. Winds are nowhere near as bad as they have been. Something not quite right about this, imo.0 -
Gracelessly Tom wrote: »But yet there was a J3 game played on the back pitch on Wed evening in worse conditions. Winds are nowhere near as bad as they have been. Something not quite right about this, imo.
Stadium company worried about safety around the back pitch and no way IRFU were going to risk the stadium pitch after they invested huge money in it over the Summer - They have barely let Lansdowne and Wanderers on the pitch in the last 2 years0 -
Don't think so at all. Its H&S issueGracelessly Tom wrote: »But yet there was a J3 game played on the back pitch on Wed evening in worse conditions. Winds are nowhere near as bad as they have been. Something not quite right about this, imo.
Yep.Stainalert wrote: »Stadium company worried about safety around the back pitch and no way IRFU were going to risk the stadium pitch after they invested huge money in it over the Summer - They have barely let Lansdowne and Wanderers on the pitch in the last 2 years
Wanderers Nenagh a few seasons ago due to be the first game in the stadium for Wanderers was moved to Merrion Road due to small bit of bad weather0 -
The Lost Sheep wrote: »Don't think so at all. Its H&S issue
Yep.
Wanderers Nenagh a few seasons ago due to be the first game in the stadium for Wanderers was moved to Merrion Road due to small bit of bad weather
Some amount of HS issues now, first the bus and now a stadium.......0 -
Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »Some amount of HS issues now, first the bus and now a stadium.......
Only difference this time is both teams woul have wanted the game.
UCD v Tarf due to go ahead on their all weather0 -
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Results
1A
Cork Con 6 Dolphin 9
2B
Navan 13 DLSP 3
Cork Con and Dolphin both move up a place as a result. Con to third 9 points behind leaders Tarf and Belvedere having played a game more.
Dolphin up to 6th.
The win for Navan keeps them in sixth while their opponents drop below Richmond to tenth.0 -
If I'm off with anything in this report you can blame the alcohol...:D:D
Only two games in the top flight were played this weekend due to the weather conditions and both games were won by the away side in Limerick and Cork City derbys. Dolphin won Friday night's Cork derby 9-6 against Cork Con in Temple Hill while Garryowen won 33-16 against Young Munster in Greenfields. The win for the Dooradoyle side lifts them to two points of Ballynahinch who are in ninth but Garryowen are still eleven points shy of safety with six full rounds to play.
In Division 1B Four of the five games were played and all four games were won by the home sides. UL Bohemians were the only side to move up in position and the Annacotty side moved from fourth to third ahead of Buccaneers. Terenure remain 13 points clear of second place Corinthians with 6 full rounds of games remaining. Bohemians were high scoring winners over Malone in a 39-34 game played on the University Of Limericks 4G pitch today.
Nothing major occurred in 2A with only Banbridge moving in position as the county down side moved to tenth today following their 19-12 win in Cork against Highfield. Leaders Galwegians had a 44-17 home win over Naas in Crowley Park to maintain their 12 point lead at the top.
Bruff are 8 points shy of 15th placed Old Crescent and 9 shy of 14th placed Naas but following the recent inclement weather the county Limerick side have two games in hand in order to catch up.
In the big game of the day 2B leaders Nenagh maintained their lead at the top following a 1 point win in Liam Fitzgerald Park against hosts Thomond. Eight points from winger Donal Fogarty as well as a try from Oz import Nathan Daly followed by the winning kick from former Thomond(and Nenagh) player John Lillis sealed the match points for the visitors who were able to take the 4 match points on offer despite the away side giving their hosts and their full back Dermot Fitzgerald(who scored all of Thomonds points) ample opportunity to take the match points. The visitors finished the game with 14 men following the sending off of winger Ger Hermse for a second yellow card offence. Thomond will do well in their remaining games to push for the
Greystones remain in second place following a 27-3 victory over Ards, who are now all but resigned to the junior ranks with four games remaining.
Division 1A:
Cork Constitution 6 Dolphin 9
Young Munster 16 Garryowen 33
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Lansdowne v St. Mary's College
UCD v Clontarf
Ballynahinch v Old Belvedere
Division 1B
Buccaneers 20 Dublin University 17
Corinthians 29 Blackrock College 12
Terenure College 24 Belfast Harlequins 7
UL Bohemians 39 Malone 24
Division 2A
Ballymena 8 Bective Rangers 3
Cashel 18 NUIM Barnhall 14
Galwegians 44 Naas 17
Highfield 12 Banbridge 19
Old Wesley 24 City of Derry 25
Queen's University 21 Rainey Old Boys 23
UCC 47 Old Crescent 3
Seapoint v Bruff postponed
Division 2B:
Navan 13 De La Salle Palmerston 3
Armagh 8 Suttonians 5
Boyne 20 Midleton 22
Greystones 27 Ards 3
Instonians 8 Tullamore 14
Skerries 54 Sunday's Well 17
Sligo 6 Richmond 14
Thomond 15 Nenagh Ormond 160 -
The Lost Sheep wrote: ».....Ards, who are now all but resigned to the junior ranks with four games remaining.
You sure?0 -
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Any word on how Young Munster got on at Irfu hq tonight . Rumours around clubs over recent days was that they would be punished with points deduction , financial penalty and ordered to play the unplayed game v Dolphin at a time suitable to Dolphin .
Could be interesting with Irfu required to make a statement that precident is not set for others clubs to pull a stroke like this when they are short half their team .
Could see the Cookies fighting this all the way to court . They have history having already taken Dolphin & Irfu to court in the mid naughties and the Cookies lost .
Eventhough a judgement has not been past if we see a similar outcome to above Garryowen would be the real winners as it would drag an out of form Young Munster into a possible delegation battle0 -
mightymonster wrote: »Any word on how Young Munster got on at Irfu hq tonight . Rumours around clubs over recent days was that they would be punished with points deduction , financial penalty and ordered to play the unplayed game v Dolphin at a time suitable to Dolphin .
Could be interesting with Irfu required to make a statement that precident is not set for others clubs to pull a stroke like this when they are short half their team .
Could see the Cookies fighting this all the way to court . They have history having already taken Dolphin & Irfu to court in the mid naughties and the Cookies lost .
Eventhough a judgement has not been past if we see a similar outcome to above Garryowen would be the real winners as it would drag an out of form Young Munster into a possible delegation battle
Young Munster will not accept any sort of punishment, will fight all the way on player welfare grounds and a judgement call from the bus driver. The only thing they will accept is a replay and i think that'll end up being the outcome.
No matter what they rule not eveyone will be happy, if they go with severe punishment YM will fight it in court.....guaranteed (if they can put the money together haha) and will accuse the IRFU of not acknowledging the judgement of an external party member (Bus drivers) judgement on conditions threatening player safety. If ruled the other way it'll be dolphin up in arms as they feel YM pulled a sneaky stroke.
Is a lose lose situation for the IRFU and i think personally they'll go with a slap on teh wrist and replay0 -
If it was safe for the Limerick Cork bus by our state provider and Young Munster sponsor it was safe for any other bus to drive . And in fact the bus drove back on the road on which the " bus driver " judged it was unsafe to drive on .
And putting aside the fact that key players like Brian Haugh , Alan Cotter and the foreign centre were unavailable Young Munster could have , when in Charleville, travelled to the rail station to catch the next train to Cork which in fact was running safely .
The same time that day the Limerick Cork route was perfect for Youghal gaa to travel to the Gaelic grounds for a club championship game while also being safe enough for Limerick's Ard Scoil Ris to travel to play Hamilton High School from Bandon in the Harty cup at Mallow GAA grounds .
Young Munster made no effort to resolve this situation they may have found themselves in on The day like
- Get Irish Rail train to Cork
-Arrange through sponsorsBus Eireann to travel on The uninterrupted scheduled bus to Cork
-Request a delayed kick off
Young Munster are a club I admired great and enjoyed going to and playing games in Clifford Park over the years . The match was tough but the hospitality was excellent while warm . I made many cookie friends .
I have to say that I have lost much respect for Young Munster for what I deem as unsporting behaviour . Young Munster in my view and in the view of many respected club supporters in Ireland agree that they have brought Ulster Bank league and the game of rugby into disrepute .
Bus Eireann , aside from the fact that they can ill afford such sponsorships as a financially struggling state subsidised provider. ought to review their patriotic sponsorship of Young Munster RFC as they too have had their name tarnished in this dabacle .Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »Young Munster will not accept any sort of punishment, will fight all the way on player welfare grounds and a judgement call from the bus driver. The only thing they will accept is a replay and i think that'll end up being the outcome.
No matter what they rule not eveyone will be happy, if they go with severe punishment YM will fight it in court.....guaranteed (if they can put the money together haha) and will accuse the IRFU of not acknowledging the judgement of an external party member (Bus drivers) judgement on conditions threatening player safety. If ruled the other way it'll be dolphin up in arms as they feel YM pulled a sneaky stroke.
Is a lose lose situation for the IRFU and i think personally they'll go with a slap on teh wrist and replay0 -
I am quite shocked that such a well respected club like Young Munster would even have considered such a move. It really puts a tarnish on their reputation for me. I hope the IRFU will hand down a punishment and I hope that Young Munster will take it on the chin and move on. If that happens I would accept it and forget about it. Let's see what, if anything happens though.0
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mightymonster wrote: »If it was safe for the Limerick Cork bus by our state provider and Young Munster sponsor it was safe for any other bus to drive . And in fact the bus drove back on the road on which the " bus driver " judged it was unsafe to drive on .
And putting aside the fact that key players like Brian Haugh , Alan Cotter and the foreign centre were unavailable Young Munster could have , when in Charleville, travelled to the rail station to catch the next train to Cork which in fact was running safely .
The same time that day the Limerick Cork route was perfect for Youghal gaa to travel to the Gaelic grounds for a club championship game while also being safe enough for Limerick's Ard Scoil Ris to travel to play Hamilton High School from Bandon in the Harty cup at Mallow GAA grounds .
Young Munster made no effort to resolve this situation they may have found themselves in on The day like
- Get Irish Rail train to Cork
-Arrange through sponsorsBus Eireann to travel on The uninterrupted scheduled bus to Cork
-Request a delayed kick off
Young Munster are a club I admired great and enjoyed going to and playing games in Clifford Park over the years . The match was tough but the hospitality was excellent while warm . I made many cookie friends .
I have to say that I have lost much respect for Young Munster for what I deem as unsporting behaviour . Young Munster in my view and in the view of many respected club supporters in Ireland agree that they have brought Ulster Bank league and the game of rugby into disrepute .
Bus Eireann , aside from the fact that they can ill afford such sponsorships as a financially struggling state subsidised provider. ought to review their patriotic sponsorship of Young Munster RFC as they too have had their name tarnished in this dabacle .
See Young Munsters aren't going to accept that it was unsporting behavior as the bus driver made the call to turn around, i imagine there wasn't much argument from YM at the time. Young Munsters will not admit to pulling a stroke, or accept a big fine or points deduction as they'll have seen it as doing nothing wrong. All arguments will be turned to a judgement call by the bus eireann bus driver and who are we or the irfu to tell him what to do if he feels a situation is unsafe.
My understanding is YM contacted Gordon Black in the IRFU to notify him that due to H&S reason the bus driver was not confident in completing the journey safely and returned to Limerick. This call was made around 12, giving the IRFU time to notify Dolphin, Refs and/or give YM a kick up the hole and tell them the math goes ahead but kick off is delayed find another means down.
I think nothing will come of this, is all a load of crap, just replay the game and be done with it.
Am i'm not a YM fan for the record!0 -
Decision on Cookies Dolphin postponement has been made.
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The Lost Sheep wrote: »Decision on Cookies Dolphin postponement has been made.
Dolphin given the points, Munster's deducted 2 points and fined €2500
madness............appeal coming surely! Any links to where the decision is confirmed or is it all still heresay?0 -
Off Munsterfans. Cookie's poster basically confirmed and said they'll def be appealingNot Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »madness............appeal coming surely! Any links to where the decision is confirmed or is it all still heresay?
IMO they deserve what they received. There was shenanigans going on and if they had really wanted to go down to game as scheduled bus services were going on between Limerick and Cork they could have rang Dolphin. Pushed the game back to a later kick off and travelled on a scheduled service0 -
A good cake and cookie sale to pay that fine .
Punishment deserved for immature behaviour and not travelling to Cork and play the game . They ran from the fact that they were short players . Poor decision making by Young Munster administration on the day of the game .
It puts Munsters down towards the basement and could it spell trouble in their camp . Performances and morale will be difficult to raise after hammering last week by Garryowen0 -
Wow you are all very mature. I will not hide the fact that I am limerick based but have no affiliation to any club. I was delighted to see Garryowen win last weekend but the comments being left here towards Young Munster are an absolute disgrace. Would ye prefer if the bus had gone out of control and crashed in to a car with a young family inside? or if the bus had overturned so the game could be played? You can never be too careful and which is more important? peoples lives and safety or an insignificant, mid table, amateur rugby game??
who were young munster supposedly missing that day?? I should be able to find the team selected for that day and report back.0 -
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Don't know about players missing but in my opinion Munster's acted the maggot and tried not play the game and get punished.good_afternoon wrote: »Wow you are all very mature. I will not hide the fact that I am limerick based but have no affiliation to any club. I was delighted to see Garryowen win last weekend but the comments being left here towards Young Munster are an absolute disgrace. Would ye prefer if the bus had gone out of control and crashed in to a car with a young family inside? or if the bus had overturned so the game could be played? You can never be too careful and which is more important? peoples lives and safety or an insignificant, mid table, amateur rugby game??
who were young munster supposedly missing that day?? I should be able to find the team selected for that day and report back.
What comments are a disgrace?
Scheduled bus services were still running on the day. Young Munster could easily have rang ahead asking for a delayed kick off and travelled via scheduled service if their bus driver refused to go on.
You can easily turn what you are saying into situations that could occur anytime you sit into a vehicle. IRFU clearly feel Munster's were at fault and I agree. Punishment is more than deserved.
Only 4 games in AIL this weekend as teams try catch up on games which were postponed over past few weeks.
http://www.irishrugby.ie/ulsterbankleague/29777.php0 -
So everyone here is declaring Shenanigans on YM, but if thats the case, why would they get on a bus and go as far as beyond Charleville? Why would they contact a senior member of the IRFU? To my knowledge YM haven't failed to complete a senior fixture in a very long time (not including postponements and rearranged games - such as senior shield) and don't think they would've. According to a pal of mine Brian Haugh was out, as was there foreign centre and Dan Goggin with Ire 20s.
When is there going to be publication of findings does anyone know? Thats when the real arguements for and against should start once its there in black and white for all to see.0 -
good_afternoon wrote: »Wow you are all very mature. I will not hide the fact that I am limerick based but have no affiliation to any club. I was delighted to see Garryowen win last weekend but the comments being left here towards Young Munster are an absolute disgrace. Would ye prefer if the bus had gone out of control and crashed in to a car with a young family inside? or if the bus had overturned so the game could be played? You can never be too careful and which is more important? peoples lives and safety or an insignificant, mid table, amateur rugby game??
who were young munster supposedly missing that day?? I should be able to find the team selected for that day and report back.
Also from Limerick but not affiliated to a senior club and think some people throwing around facts around Bus Eireann services not going but neglecting other facts notably that there was also a Junior game on the very same day in Limerick cancelled for the exact same reason.
Also I would say that suggestions of getting a team to travel on the regular service is non-sense, so do you expect a team to wait at the bus stop for the service, then what if they can only take 6 due to the bus being full, send 6 down and wait for the next bus? That is no way for a team to prepare, would any other club like their team to prepare the same way and accept that?
Also I think we all have the benefit of hindsight here as well when looking for alternative means of getting to Cork when we talk about getting the train etc.
I think the IRFU need to be accountable here rather than passing the fine and deduction to Young Munster, as a previous poster mentioned Gordon Black who is the Leagues administrator was notified he surely should have been able to advise Young Munster as to what were there options if that was the case and the ramifications of not showing up?0 -
I don't think saying about regular service was nonsense. As was said on mf's they could have also got a train.turtleshead wrote: »Also from Limerick but not affiliated to a senior club and think some people throwing around facts around Bus Eireann services not going but neglecting other facts notably that there was also a Junior game on the very same day in Limerick cancelled for the exact same reason.
Also I would say that suggestions of getting a team to travel on the regular service is non-sense, so do you expect a team to wait at the bus stop for the service, then what if they can only take 6 due to the bus being full, send 6 down and wait for the next bus? That is no way for a team to prepare, would any other club like their team to prepare the same way and accept that?
Also I think we all have the benefit of hindsight here as well when looking for alternative means of getting to Cork when we talk about getting the train etc.
I think the IRFU need to be accountable here rather than passing the fine and deduction to Young Munster, as a previous poster mentioned Gordon Black who is the Leagues administrator was notified he surely should have been able to advise Young Munster as to what were there options if that was the case and the ramifications of not showing up?
I think Munster's got rightfully punished and deserve what they got.
Anyway to rugby.
The Irish club side won 23-22 against England tonight with the winning kick coming in injury time0 -
The Lost Sheep wrote: »I don't think saying about regular service was nonsense. As was said on mf's they could have also got a train.
I think Munster's got rightfully punished and deserve what they got.
Anyway to rugby.
The Irish club side won 23-22 against England tonight with the winning kick coming in injury time
Good result! Where will Joyce be next year? Having a great season!!0 -
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Do you see Joyce playing any higher?Good result! Where will Joyce be next year? Having a great season!!
He played senior cup in school, same year in Roscrea as Seamus Hennessy(tipp hurler), but never played provincial u/age rugby. He's played considerable amount of AIL but do you see him playing higher than that?
Would you see a province or English championship side taking a punt on him?
Few games tomorrow, Blackrock Shannon only game in 1B. In 2A Bruff host Banbridge, Old Wesley host Rainey Old Boys and Barnhall travel to Naas and In 2B Tullamore travel to Richmond and Instonians host De La Salle Palmerston.
Shannon are currently in sixth but have three games in hand on most of the sides around them so a win tomorrow will help close the gap to fifth and push on with their small chance of promotion.
Bruff are currently in last place in 2A and are sixth points adrift of fifteenth but more importantly nine points adrift of fourteenth place, and at least a relegation playoff spot. They host Banbridge who are in tenth place and are as good as safe in 2A for another season. Rainey Old Boys travel down to Dublin to face Old Wesley in Donnybrook in a mid table clash with nothing to play for. In the final 2A game of the day NUIM Barnhall. the hosts, who are aiming for the second automatic place behind runaway leaders Galwegians host Naas in a tie with big implications at both ends of the table.
In 2B the clash of both sides to come up from the junior ranks at end of last season see's eighth host seventh. Both comfortably have survived in senior ranks this season and this game only really see's the sides fighting out to see who will end up in the top half of the table come April. The big game of the day see's fifteenth, Instonians, host eleventh, De La Salle Palmerston. A win for the home side will push them out of the playoff spot with second in the round robin and see Sligo fall into that position while a win for their Dublin visitors will mathematically clinch survival for another season in 2B0 -
The Lost Sheep wrote: »Do you see Joyce playing any higher?
He played senior cup in school, same year in Roscrea as Seamus Hennessy(tipp hurler), but never played provincial u/age rugby. He's played considerable amount of AIL but do you see him playing higher than that?
Would you see a province or English championship side taking a punt on him?
Few games tomorrow, Blackrock Shannon only game in 1B. In 2A Bruff host Banbridge, Old Wesley host Rainey Old Boys and Barnhall travel to Naas and In 2B Tullamore travel to Richmond and Instonians host De La Salle Palmerston.
Shannon are currently in sixth but have three games in hand on most of the sides around them so a win tomorrow will help close the gap to fifth and push on with their small chance of promotion.
Bruff are currently in last place in 2A and are sixth points adrift of fifteenth but more importantly nine points adrift of fourteenth place, and at least a relegation playoff spot. They host Banbridge who are in tenth place and are as good as safe in 2A for another season. Rainey Old Boys travel down to Dublin to face Old Wesley in Donnybrook in a mid table clash with nothing to play for. In the final 2A game of the day NUIM Barnhall. the hosts, who are aiming for the second automatic place behind runaway leaders Galwegians host Naas in a tie with big implications at both ends of the table.
In 2B the clash of both sides to come up from the junior ranks at end of last season see's eighth host seventh. Both comfortably have survived in senior ranks this season and this game only really see's the sides fighting out to see who will end up in the top half of the table come April. The big game of the day see's fifteenth, Instonians, host eleventh, De La Salle Palmerston. A win for the home side will push them out of the playoff spot with second in the round robin and see Sligo fall into that position while a win for their Dublin visitors will mathematically clinch survival for another season in 2B
Joyce having a terrific season having a similar run to Ronaldson ex Lansdowne at the moment, would agree he is at his level but could see a championship side in England taking a punt on him. Excellent club player just wondering if he wanted to explore th pro game if he got the oppurtunity0 -
Joyce having a terrific season having a similar run to Ronaldson ex Lansdowne at the moment, would agree he is at his level but could see a championship side in England taking a punt on him. Excellent club player just wondering if he wanted to explore th pro game if he got the oppurtunity
Ya the only difference between 1A and Championship in England is the money, a lot of lads in 1A would be comfortable in the Championship or the ProD2!0 -
The Lost Sheep wrote: »Do you see Joyce playing any higher?
He played senior cup in school, same year in Roscrea as Seamus Hennessy(tipp hurler), but never played provincial u/age rugby. He's played considerable amount of AIL but do you see him playing higher than that?
Would you see a province or English championship side taking a punt on him?
Few games tomorrow, Blackrock Shannon only game in 1B. In 2A Bruff host Banbridge, Old Wesley host Rainey Old Boys and Barnhall travel to Naas and In 2B Tullamore travel to Richmond and Instonians host De La Salle Palmerston.
Shannon are currently in sixth but have three games in hand on most of the sides around them so a win tomorrow will help close the gap to fifth and push on with their small chance of promotion.
Bruff are currently in last place in 2A and are sixth points adrift of fifteenth but more importantly nine points adrift of fourteenth place, and at least a relegation playoff spot. They host Banbridge who are in tenth place and are as good as safe in 2A for another season. Rainey Old Boys travel down to Dublin to face Old Wesley in Donnybrook in a mid table clash with nothing to play for. In the final 2A game of the day NUIM Barnhall. the hosts, who are aiming for the second automatic place behind runaway leaders Galwegians host Naas in a tie with big implications at both ends of the table.
In 2B the clash of both sides to come up from the junior ranks at end of last season see's eighth host seventh. Both comfortably have survived in senior ranks this season and this game only really see's the sides fighting out to see who will end up in the top half of the table come April. The big game of the day see's fifteenth, Instonians, host eleventh, De La Salle Palmerston. A win for the home side will push them out of the playoff spot with second in the round robin and see Sligo fall into that position while a win for their Dublin visitors will mathematically clinch survival for another season in 2B
Really good to see both promoted clubs going well. We had a rocky start to the season but have picked up a few good wins in the last couple of rounds.
Won't be down today but if it's anything like the playoff game last year, it will be a great game. Hopefully different result though!0 -
Great hard fought win for Shannon today.
David O'Donovan - Blackrock v Shannon - UBL 1B by StephenDevine, on Flickr0 -
Couple of stand out games across the full round of games in every division this week with Old Belvedere's trip to Cork Constitution and Lansdowne visit to Young Munster in 1A being the picks in division 1 while Galwegians versus City of Derry in 2A and Nenagh Armagh and Tullamore Skerries in 2B,the pick of the Division 2 games.
Only 1 game across the divisions tomorrow night and that see's a Division 2A Kildare derby with big ramifications at both ends of the table. Naas are at the wrong end of the table and currently sit in the promotion/relegation playoff spot who will face third in 2B at the end of the regular season. A win for the Hosts would be huge especially with the morale boost it would bring for the remainder of the season but that is unlikely to happen and with the sides around Naas all, apart from Highfield who are in 13th, facing sides guaranteed their safety in the division Naas' position in 2A could be much more perilous come 4pm Saturday.
On Saturday the big game at the top 2A see's first host fourth. A win for the home side will essentially seal promotion as they only require eight more points from their final four games, including this weekends, to seal first place and the league title. However a win for the away side will totally shake up the race for second and third which remarkably still has five sides with a very big chance of taking a promotion/play off spot come mid-April.
Three sides are on 34 points, NUIM Barnhall, Queens University and City of Derry, and all doing their best to chase down the Galwegians at the top while. Ballymena are a further point behind on 33 with a crucial a game in hand, with UCC a further four back on 30 having also played a game less and both will have a big say in who gets promoted. Two of those five sides will either be in 1B next season or at least have a playoff to try win a slot but it is nigh on impossible to figure who at this time.
At the other end of the table the all Munster clash between Highfield and Bruff is massive for both sides. Bruff unless a miracle occurs will be playing 2B rugby next season travel to Cork City to take on Woodleigh Park side Highfield. The hosts will be eager not to make themselves Bruff's second victims of the season and 4 points coupled with a big win for Barnhall in tomorrow nights game will make a huge difference to the standings as we enter the final stages of the season.
In Division 2B a win for the leaders would virtually guarantee them at least a shot at a playoff for 2A status next season but that will not be in the minds of Trevor Hogan and his players as they host an Armagh side still very much in contention for promotion. The hosts are still unbeaten with just a draw against Navan keeping them from matching Terenure in having a 100% record this season. Their opponents Armagh are in a group of 4 sides that have just 3 points between them at this stage so every point is vital in the race for promotion and a win over their Tipperary hosts could totally change the table as we approach the end of the season.
Sligo, currently in the terrible 14th position(just above the promotion/relegation playoff spot with 2nd in round robin) travel east to North Dublin to face winless Suttonians in a relegation ten pointer. A first win of the season could totally change Suttonian's season who are also due to face 15th placed Instonians before the season ends but a loss on Saturday could seal their fate even with another 3 rounds of games to go.
In Division 1B things are a slight bit less complicated even though there is more rounds of games to be played than both Divisions 2A & 2B. Terenure are 12 from 12 and 13 points clear of second placed Corinthians and a whopping 19 points clear UL Bohemians in third. The Dublin side are as good as promoted and 3 more wins will seal promotion to the top flight.
Corinthians are leading the charge and should have no real problems on Saturday against Dungannon who are in last place and lost 6 on the trot in the league.
In the top flight Clontarf could go clear at the top as they host a Dolphin side safely stuck in mid table while their title rivals Old Belvedere travel to Cork, for a battle against third placed Cork Constitution who, along with Lansdowne, will still see themselves having a very outside shot at league glory however unlikely that is.
At the other end of the table Ulster's only representatives will be eager for four points to stay top dog in terms of league position of the northern sides but that will be a difficult task as they host a St Marys College side, a place above them in the standings, that is 9 points ahead of them. Ballynahinch could have a lot of what ifs regarding this season with 6 losing bonus points from their 9 losses this season but need four points this weekend and should do that to keep alive their chances of remaining a top flight side for another season.
Fixtures
Division 1A
Saturday 2.30pm
Ballynahinch (9th) v St Mary's College (8th)
Clontarf (1st) v Dolphin (6th)
Cork Con (3rd) v Old Belvedere (2nd)
UCD (7th) v Garryowen (10th)
Young Munster (5th) v Lansdowne (4th)
Division 1B
Saturday 2.30pm
Blackrock College (9th) v Belfast Harlequins (5th)
Corinthians (2nd) v Dungannon (10th)
Dublin University (8th) v UL Bohemians (3rd)
Malone (7th) v Terenure College (1st)
Shannon (6th) v Buccaneers (4th)
Division 2A
Tomorrow Night 7.30pm
Naas (14th) v NUIM Barnhall (2nd)
Saturday 2.30pm
Ballymena (5th) v Seapoint (12th)
Banbridge (10th) v Old Crescent (15th)
Bective Rangers (11th) v Rainey Old Boys (8th)
Cashel (7th) v Old Wesley (9th)
Galwegians (1st) v City of Derry (4th)
Highfield (13th) v Bruff (16th)
Queen's University (3rd) v UCC (6th)
Division 2B
Saturday 2.30pm
Ards (12th) v Thomond (3rd)
DLSP (9th) v Boyne (13th)
Midleton (10th) v Greystones (2nd)
Nenagh Ormond (1st) v Armagh (5th)
Richmond (8th) v Instonians (15th)
Sunday’s Well (11th) v Navan (7th)
Suttonians (16th) v Sligo (14th)
Tullamore (6th) v Skerries (4th)0 -
I disagree with first part of your post. A lot more than money in the difference but yes quite a few players would be comfortable in levels directly below top tier in England/FranceNot Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny wrote: »Ya the only difference between 1A and Championship in England is the money, a lot of lads in 1A would be comfortable in the Championship or the ProD2!0 -
not sure what to make of YM's scolding.
In fairness every 1A AIL team is facing into each round of fixtures with uncertainty over player availability and i would be surprised if that was a contributing factor. Disappointing if it was to be the case, the cookies are at a great example of what is good about Irish rugby and are always a great club to visit.0 -
Clontarf 59 Dolphin 7
Clontarf's back 3 with 6 trys, dolphin were beaten up front despite not playing really badly, Clontarf were clinical. Liam Og Murphy started at 7. 4 Munster academy players started for Dolphin.
Con beaten by Belvo at home by 2 points, YM put recent woes behind them by beating Lansdowne at home.0 -
No change at the top of 2B with the only movement in the standings in mid table and below that saw DLSP and Sundays Well move up into the top half of the table with Richmond and Midleton dropping to 10th and 11th respectively and Sligo move to 13th ahead of Boyne who drop to 14th.
Sligo's win over Suttonians means the Connacht side are now 5 points clear of Instonians(in 15th and the relegation playoff spot) with 3 full rounds of games to go though 'Inst have a game in hand.
At the top Nenagh came from 12-0 down at home to Armagh to win 20-18 to as good as seal promotion. The Tipp club are 6 points clear of second, ten of third and eleven of fourth with 3 rounds left and a win in two weeks time against their closest rivals, Greystones, will seal the league title for Ormonds. Nenagh have to play bottom side Suttonians(as good as relegated) and an Ards side who are nearly safe for another season in 2B in their remaining games and should comfortably win both.
The fight for the promotion playoff is still very close and Armagh, despite todays loss, are still in with a shout and the fight between Thomond, Skerries and Armagh will go right down to the wire with Thomond having to travel up north to Armagh in two weeks time the big game in settling 3rd place.
In 2A Galwegians won 28-12 today in Galway against City of Derry, who drop to 6th due to other results. The hosts now just need two points in their remaining games(against 2nd, 10th, 11th) to seal the title.
The battle for the remaining promotion place will go down to the final weekends with several big clashes due to be played to decide that place. Barnhall, in 2nd, are on 38 having played 12 while 3rd place Ballymena are on 37 points with 11 games played and UCC in 4th on 34 points also having played 11 games. Barnhall are least likely to finish in 2nd as they are due to play each of their rivals in the top 4 in their remaining three games.
At the bottom Bruff are relegated unless something remarkable happens. They lost their relegation 'ten pointer' to Highfield today by the narrowest of margins and the win means Highfield will be a 2A side next season. 1 of Seapoint/Naas/Old Crescent will join Bruff in 2B while another will face a playoff in deciding their fate for next season.
Terenure won their 13th straight game in 1B and will be champions and are straight up to the top flight. Second place and the playoff for a 1A place is more than likely going to be Corinthians(even with 5 rounds left) as the Galway side are 7 clear of 3rd/4th with a game in hand.
Dungannon are 8 adrift at the bottom and will, unless something dramatic occurs, be a 2A side next season. The other side to be relegated will be one of Malone, Blackrock and Trinity and this will not be decided until the end of the season.
In the top flight the battle to avoid the automatic drop continues with Ballynahinchs losing bonus point keeping them 2 points clear of their Limerick rivals. With 11 points between Ballynahinch and Dolphin, in 8th, there is just a 2 horse race for relegation/playoff and its just who ends where that needs to be decided.
At the top Clontarf won big against Dolphin and are a point ahead of Belvedere who won a very good game in Temple Hill, against 3rd placed Cork Con.
Division 1A:
Ballynahinch 10 St. Mary’s College 17
Clontarf 59 Dolphin 7
Cork Constitution 24 Old Belvedere 26
UCD 26 Garryowen 6
Young Munster 24 Lansdowne 21
Division 1B:
Blackrock College 28 Belfast Harlequins 12
Corinthians 31 Dungannon 5
Dublin University 12 UL Bohemians 19
Malone 15 Terenure College 28
Shannon 10 Buccaneers 29
Division 2A:
Naas 8 NUIM Barnhall 10 - played on Friday
Ballymena 31 Seapoint 14
Banbridge 26 Old Crescent 15
Bective Rangers 34 Rainey Old Boys 20
Cashel 6 Old Wesley 11
Galwegians 28 City of Derry 12
Highfield 17 Bruff 16
Queen’s University 0 UCC 12
Division 2B
Ards 5 Thomond 26
De La Salle Palmerston 16 Boyne 14
Midleton 11 Greystones 13
Nenagh Ormond 20 Armagh 18
Richmond v Instonians - match postponed
Sunday’s Well 15 Navan 6
Suttonians 3 Sligo 18
Tullamore 10 Skerries 290 -
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