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** HL Physics Before / after **

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭ScummyMan


    optimus125 wrote: »
    I would be willing to bet almost anything in my possession that co-planar forces is coming up tomorrow. KNOW IT PEOPLE.

    Good man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭Jackobyte


    Lads, for the thin metallic conductor, was it a curve or directly proportional? The book always had directly proportional for metallic conductor but when I drew the graph, there seemed to be a small curve in it. Also, the "explain the shape" seemed to hint at a curve as well. I presumed the thin part of it made it similar to a filament bulb(heat produced which increases resistance) and drew it with a curve. Did anyone else do this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭Lukeyy


    Well that was slightly less horrific than I imagined. Emphasis on slightly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 janus510


    Mechanics was easier than other years i thought, experiments were nice aswell


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 nunchuks


    lads, that was tidy


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  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭xJEx


    Jackobyte wrote: »
    Lads, for the thin metallic conductor, was it a curve or directly proportional? The book always had directly proportional for metallic conductor but when I drew the graph, there seemed to be a small curve in it. Also, the "explain the shape" seemed to hint at a curve as well. I presumed the thin part of it made it similar to a filament bulb(heat produced which increases resistance) and drew it with a curve. Did anyone else do this?

    I drew a line of best fit but it wasn't including many points..
    What were you supposed to say for how the rheostat changed the voltage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Kingkumar


    yay! was a pretty good paper. Annoyed with myself for making 1 silly mistake... in the particle physics q where it asked to find the velocity of a proton i used the mass of the electron in the calculations:(.
    anyway hopefully should get my A1 :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭xJEx


    What calculation answers did people get for question 6?


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 KildareKing


    today was a good day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Kingkumar


    xJEx wrote: »
    I drew a line of best fit but it wasn't including many points..
    What were you supposed to say for how the rheostat changed the voltage?

    I drew a line of best fit too and said I is proportional to V etc..but i also said the last few points for the graph seem to curving away this might be due to the conductor heating up . Um for the rheostat i think all u had to say was change the resistance which changes the voltage as V= RI. I drew a potentiometer so i said move the moving contact to adjust volatage


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭Jackobyte


    xJEx wrote: »
    I drew a line of best fit but it wasn't including many points..
    What were you supposed to say for how the rheostat changed the voltage?

    Yeah, I spent ages considering drawing a line of best fit, but felt I'd have been forcing it. The fact that they specifically stated it was thin as well seemed that it had some relevance. Like, usually for exam questions, for the line of best fit, connecting the last point to the origin will work but in this case, that left all the other points at one side of the line.

    I said something along the lines of, in a metallic conductor, V=IR at a constant temperature. Therefore, by increasing the resistance by making the current flow through more of the potential divider, the voltage would also increase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    How many marks does one lose for mistakingly assuming pressure was meausured in Pascals and KiloPascals?


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭optimus125


    Good man

    Carefully remove the tampon there darling.

    That was unreal, absolutely delighted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭mulciber


    I thought that fas fairly handy. I totally blanked on some of the definitions though. =P Hopefully I'll get an A or high B. =)


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 dorcan


    physics just saved my leaving cert. Did anyone else think Q.5 was really different than usual


  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭xJEx


    anyone haveanswers for calculation on 5, 6, 9, 10 or 12? :P need some reassurance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Undeadfred


    dorcan wrote: »
    physics just saved my leaving cert. Did anyone else think Q.5 was really different than usual

    Yeah i did. Had no idea what a storage heater was and was very iffy on a lot of the questions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    dorcan wrote: »
    physics just saved my leaving cert. Did anyone else think Q.5 was really different than usual

    q5 was tough ya what was the principle of storage heater??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Undeadfred


    q5 was tough ya what was the principle of storage heater??

    looked it up on wikipediea, it appears to be radiation or convection. I was soooo clost to putting down radiation. I put down heat pump instead cause i had no idea what a storage heater was


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭optimus125


    q5 was tough ya what was the principle of storage heater??

    I thought question 5 and 6 were both beautiful! Modern and particle physics were pretty much the exact same as previous years as well.

    Did anyone who did Q.11 get the formula to be a=-(2Pi/T)^2 . s ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    A storage heater takes in energy during the night when electricity is cheaper and slowly releases that energy during the day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭Prodigious


    Storage heaters are made of bricks of high heat capacity. Heated during the night when electricity is cheaper, and they release heat slowly during the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 lisheen2308


    Undeadfred wrote: »
    looked it up on wikipediea, it appears to be radiation or convection. I was soooo clost to putting down radiation. I put down heat pump instead cause i had no idea what a storage heater was

    i said it had bricks in it with a high specific heat capacity, these are heated slowly at night when electricity is cheaper. then during the day when they are switched off they give out heat slowly because of there high specific heat capacity, maintaining an even temperature throughout the house!

    something to that degree anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    optimus125 wrote: »
    I thought question 5 and 6 were both beautiful! Modern and particle physics were pretty much the exact same as previous years as well.

    Did anyone who did Q.11 get the formula to be a=-2Pi/T . s ?

    I got -4pi squared over T squared times s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    When I came into the exam today this morning, I was genuinely bricking it but now when I finished it, I was so happy. That may be the nicest paper I've come across in Physics. The STS was simply beautiful with plenty of easy marks for everyone to get. Section A was handy enough and had no problems. For the metallic conductor question on the graph, I just explained that the graph contradicts the theory that was given to us on the course. I wouldn't worry much on that part. The mobile phone charger was very straight forward although I couldn't figure how find how much heat energy would be left in 10mins..? Any ideas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Kingkumar


    How many marks does one lose for mistakingly assuming pressure was meausured in Pascals and KiloPascals?

    2 marks i would say...cause the question that said name the units was only worth 4. and u shouldnt be penalised again for the same mistake. but anyway what was the pressure measured in atmosphere's? (didnt do this q)


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭optimus125


    I got -4pi squared over T squared times s

    Sorry yeah forgot to put in the squared there, yeah that's what I got.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Jabama


    For question 7, did anyone know how to find the permittivity of the string?? i just guessed and used mass/length :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 lisheen2308


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    When I came into the exam today this morning, I was genuinely bricking it but now when I finished it, I was so happy. That may be the nicest paper I've come across in Physics. The STS was simply beautiful with plenty of easy marks for everyone to get. Section A was handy enough and had no problems. For the metallic conductor question on the graph, I just explained that the graph contradicts the theory that was given to us on the course. I wouldn't worry much on that part. The mobile phone charger was very straight forward although I couldn't figure how find how much heat energy would be left in 10mins..? Any ideas?

    just use formula p=RI^2 t
    dont think its in log books tho


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Ah damn, that was the formula. Shame it wasn't in the log tables. I could've gotten it no problem. Just wasn't sure on what formula could be used. I made an attempt by using P=VI and I divided it by 600 seconds. Not right at all but hopefully I'll get some attempt marks at it..


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